Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 782

Jenren22 · 01/09/10, 6:19 AM

Looking at this thread 3.3 Compendium, i was wondering how my trinket setup would work between the different ICC fights. I currently have:

Abyssal Rune
Illustration of the Dragon Soul
Nevermelting Ice Crystal

With the 56/0/15 build. I usually swap out the Ice crystal with Abyssal rune on those fights I'm not confident I can keep up corruption on the boss, such as Lady Deathwhisper and Deathbringer Saurfang. Do you think this is the right thing to do? or should I make a conscious effort to keep up corruption on the more chaotic fights and always use the Ice crystal?

Deadline · 01/09/10, 6:19 AM

Recently I switched to the reaping spec, and it seems to be a DPS gain.
I was using 4x 245 T9 and switched to 2x 264 T10 / 2x 245 T9 with my weapon being Bryntroll. However, I only have 25 % ArPen at the moment.

Verrk · 01/09/10, 6:32 AM

Originally Posted by latexii

Alltho these are "just ideas" have someone calculated new dmg's ?

some more details:

Empowered Imp Buff
The talent would increase the imp's damage by 10/20/30%, up from 5/10/15%. The other effect of the talent would remain unchanged. (Source)

Demonic Pact Buff
At top rank, Demonic Pact will provide a base 10% spell damage increase for warlocks. The buff applied to party or raid members remains unchanged.

el-es-dee · 01/09/10, 6:34 AM

So to solve the problems with hit rating I suggest [Tiny Abomination in a Jar]

IMO this is perfect for tanks.. Not a whole lot of DPS would want this considering there is much better for them. Our paladin tank is going after this considering his choice of trinkets are [Mark of Supremacy] and [Death's Choice], this trinket is perfect for him, hit and a bit of extra threat.

Of course this all depends on what heroic mode is like and if you absolutely must have 2 survival trinkets.

bibari · 01/09/10, 6:37 AM

Will Glyph of Disease ever become beneficial for single target?

Alexxcri · 01/09/10, 6:45 AM

Originally Posted by landsoul

They aren't yet coded into the sheet.

Ok, thank you for setting that straight. Yes, it was a long post, sorry for it, didn't mean to offend

Madlax · 01/09/10, 6:50 AM

As affliction on both those fights I personally don't see a huge problem keeping Corruption rolling.
Affliction locks are terrible on add switching(both Lady and Saurfang) - I suggest you do a short talk with your Destro/Demo locks and mages/elemental shamans to cover Blood Beasts and occasional switches to melee immune adds.
NIC is good when you can keep Corruption rolling for 3 minutes - if you let it drop off early then all your benefit is gone.

Eledril · 01/09/10, 7:37 AM

I would ask you, if anyone know addon which counts cliped arcane missiles.

Valesa · 01/09/10, 8:16 AM

Originally Posted by Koe

Well you should try and run shaman_hep and see what happens, I'm soft-capped on haste and my haste HEP went down a fair bit to my surprise, when I parsed our latest ICC25 run using the latest version of shaman_hep (2.98). I'm curious what will happen when I start using the 2pc t10 bonus.

Lesser Healing Wave
Haste capped casts count: 726 (94.65%)
Combat count: 725 (95.14%)

Shaman Healing Equivalency Points:
1 SP = 1
1 mp5 = 1.1218 (calculated)
1 mana = 0.0232
1 Haste rating = 1.3737
1 Crit rating = 0.8071
1 INT = 0.8450 (actual)
1 INT = 1.0508 (max theoretical)

It previously had a value of around 2.

I have tried running shaman hep, but for some odd reason i did not get it to work. It didn't start up and process the data. But ok, the value is dropping alot after the soft cap, but i think that also depends on the ammount of lhw you're using?

Enova · 01/09/10, 8:35 AM

Hit (till capped) > Agi > Crit/AP(and Int) >> ArP/Haste would pretty much describe my priorities as SV

zyriu · 01/09/10, 8:47 AM

In the next days i will buy my second T10 piece.
At the moment I'm thinking about which one. I thought about keeping the T9 2piece bonus, and though get the T10 Legs as second piece.
But i will loose 74 Haste Rating.

Ist the T9 2 piece Bonus worth enought to loose 74 Haste Rating?
Outgoing of keeping Riptide always on cd?

Makke · 01/09/10, 8:56 AM

Originally Posted by Vhyrus

What is the official max dps priority tree for enhancement?

Ive been reading through the 3.3 enhance thread and there seems to be a lot of arguing over whether or not flame shock belongs in the rotation. So I guess my real question is: Are we folding flame shock into the queue and what is it's priority? I happen to be a haste stacker, if that matters.

There is a BIS post on these forums with a attached Talent Specc/Glyph section and Rotation. On the flame shock part it is viable to put FS up on a target if it can run a full cycle it is a net dps increase

deima · 01/09/10, 9:03 AM

Originally Posted by jasn345

so noone got an idea if this works on german client or how to make it work?

Have you tried it at all? I use Ovale and this script with a German client and it works perfectly so far.

angelamaria · 01/09/10, 9:12 AM

Originally Posted by Demolisher

Hey,
Right now I'm running with [Talisman of Resurgence] and [Abyssal Rune]. I've been using Rawr for a while and those 2 give me the best combination. But they all are quite sceptical about the [Talisman of Resurgence] and think it is actually not that good. Instead they told me I should go and run PoS to get [Nevermelting Ice Crystal] instead. They believe that the passive spellpower is way better then the intellect and on-use spellpower.

Not a theorycrafter, but my take on the two trinkets for arcane (keeping in mind that the power of arcane is in its burst) is that 599 clicky spellpower (if you know how to time and use your cooldowns effectively) in addition to the extra mana given by int is higher dps than the 111 spellpower and clicky crit, especially since the latter does not scale that well for us. Frankly, I have Muradin's Spyglass and have replaced my Talisman with it as directed by Rawr but am having issues with mana now, especially with all the haste buffs proccing in fights. That +int is just too yummy.

Rawr feels spot on for me usually, but you may want to check in the Rawr.Mage thread here for additional information on the on-use crit; like you the Ice Crystal has never come up to me as a replacement for any of my trinkets. You can still go and try out Ice Crystal if you've got it, naturally.

Originally Posted by ericg

In the event that there are no other mages to swap FM with, i've often put it on the one of, or the, healer (s). That way the entire group gets to gain from it in the heals that we recieve.

I tend to put it on a healer only if there is no caster dps around, because heal crits may get wasted while damage on bosses aren't. I may also be of the minority however, that if there is another caster dps that has significantly higher damage done on a boss over a mage, I would put my FM there over another mage.

Metalwraith · 01/09/10, 9:28 AM

Assuming this is the correct thread to ask the question in, but with the t10 2 piece being such a sweet proc especially when macroed to Hyperspeed accelerators) , and with the absolute lack of mana issues in 25 mans, wouldn't it be worth it to not put points into Imp SS or EF? Would the point/points be better spent in Improved shields or Reverberation?