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Old 01/09/10, 9:28 AM   #11731
Hasjustbeenpwned
 
Undead Death Knight
 
Smolderthorn
I just came back from wow (took a break from 3.1 to 3.3) and jumped right into my unholy spec, but i'm noticing an issue (or maybe just ignorance on my part of class mechanics) with Scourge Strike, if i remember correctly in 3.1 i use to use it as my main nuke and could crit ridiculously with it, but recently it seems the damage has been nerfed (i didn't read all of the patch notes so that might be the case), furthermore i've noticed my death coils crit about 6k (versus Scourge Strike only doing ~3.5k-4k) at first i was wondering if it was my weapon but i'm currently using the "Two Ton Hammer" that drops in normal PoS, which i have about a 2k high end white damage on right now unbuffed. So i was just wondering what you guys think about Scourge Strike as a main nuke ability? I mean, it use to be *extremely* effective but i'm arguing that the two runes i use to cast it could be used to cast Icy Touch and Plague Strike again to create more damage at the cost of a little more effort, and also allow me to move that talent point. I've been playing around with a hybrid spec that would allow up to dark conviction in to blood, the obliterate talent in frost (i think... 3rd tier, the one that causes it to not consume diseases) and the rest in unholy to keep the AoE damage consistent but keep having arguments about how i would use it all.

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Old 01/09/10, 9:53 AM   #11732
Valtiel
Don Flamenco
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Darksorrow (EU)
Originally Posted by bibari View Post
Will Glyph of Disease ever become beneficial for single target?

As usual, the answer to this question is "when SS > PS IT BS + GoDD". Don't hold your breath.

12 weeks without a Sigil of the Vengeful Heart drop and counting.

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Old 01/09/10, 10:03 AM   #11733
krilz
Don Flamenco
 
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Orc Warlock
 
Laughing Skull (EU)
Just to pitch in with the latest speaker. An efficient way to still do some job on Saurfang for example (this is much harder on Deathwhisper since adds can get out of range and you have to turn around) is to keep your dots up on the boss and when adds pop, tab switch to just do simple Shadow Bolt nuking. If you happen to get a Shadow Trance proc (Nightfall), throw that on the boss to keep Corruption up, otherwise just switching to the boss when Haunt comes off the cooldown is usually enough.

Keeping all your dots up while DPS'ing the adds is fairly hard but keeping Corruption up should be fairly manageable and should be done, especially if you're crit rolling.

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Old 01/09/10, 10:34 AM   #11734
Wickèt
 
Tauren Hunter
 
Twisting Nether
At the moment, I have Whispering Fanged Skull and Mjolnir Runestone as my two trinkets for my ArP MM build. Would my dps drop if i were to pick up Death's Choice to replace Mjolnir Runestone and re-gem straight agility?

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Old 01/09/10, 10:34 AM   #11735
Daajm
 
Tauren Druid
 
Shattered Hand (EU)
Hello I gotta question about death knight tanking, I have recently begun my journey on getting gear to tanking and now when I am finally on the edge of tanking I need to know which tanking specc would be the easiest and best for heroicing when you are still a beginner on death knight tanking. It doesn't matter if it's dual-wield or 2hand.

So what would be the best specc to start tanking with?

At the moment I am playing 2hand blood specc and that works so far.

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Old 01/09/10, 10:44 AM   #11736
tacen
Banned
 
Troll Hunter
 
Al'Akir (EU)
Hi im hunter survival 5601 in gs
with 2375 in agiility
attacpower 5698
crit chane 58.28
hit rating 167

and i make about 10k dps singeltarget in raids

and all my gems har 20 agility some 19 agi 10 crit strike

my question is shoud i go to MM do i need to gem them all to armor pen ? and how much better dps will i gte with it ? thanks u

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Old 01/09/10, 11:01 AM   #11737
Grimmarg
Piston Honda
 
Worgen Hunter
 
Doomhammer (EU)
Originally Posted by Enova View Post
Hit (till capped) > Agi > Crit/AP(and Int) >> ArP/Haste would pretty much describe my priorities as SV
Completely gear dependent, and AP is rated higher than say ArP for you in the item budgetvalue, but 1 ArP is still > 1AP.

For me the priority is like this:

Hit until cap > 1 Agi > 1 ArP > 2 AP > 1 Crit > 1 Haste > 1 Int > 1 AP

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Old 01/09/10, 11:28 AM   #11738
friginstud2
 
Draenei Mage
 
Mok'Nathal
lol

Last edited by friginstud2 : 01/09/10 at 2:29 PM.

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Old 01/09/10, 11:28 AM   #11739
jbatman30
 
Human Death Knight
 
Thrall
Im tired of the Moderator(s) hammering the new posters with infractions/bans in the "simple question/simple answer" forums. We (new posters) come here for expert advise from other skilled players of the class...not to share theorycraft ideas or in depth/complex questions. Our questions are 'SIMPLE" and the answers, thnx to some respectable players, are "SIMPLE" and to the point. If there is a senior Moderator...someone senior to Double-Neg i would ask that they review the infractions that he has issues in the just past month or two. I think that you will find that fair percentage of "Glass Joes" get infractions or outright banned for no legit/good reason. We as players are here for advise and guidance on our class/specs, to play better and network with like minds. Not be pestered and hounded by immature moderators that are on a power trip and rarely, if ever offer anything constructive to the forum.


Very respectfully,
Jeremiah
USAF, Deployed to Afghanistan.....yes the internet is bad and over priced but the forums is all i have to enjoy.


P.S. As i anticipate this post to be deleted or removed, (like my OP asking about choices on 1H Weapons in regards to itemization for DW tanks) if someone could PM me a senior Mod contact or anyone above Double-Neg, it would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 01/09/10, 12:10 PM   #11740
Nakari
Piston Honda
 
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Orc Hunter
 
Destromath (EU)
If you do stat weighting it's pretty obvious to only compare same stat budgets, so saying Agi > ArP > AP shouldn't need any further clarifiaction. By the way, it seems the latest versions of the spreadsheets do value ArP over Crit and even over Agility for Surivial, at least in ICC-Gear.

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Old 01/09/10, 12:15 PM   #11741
Kaveli
Von Kaiser
 
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Orc Death Knight
 
Area 52
Originally Posted by bibari View Post
Will Glyph of Disease ever become beneficial for single target?
it is if you are already using pestilence in your rotation. IE every fight ICC except the plague wing so far.

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Old 01/09/10, 12:33 PM   #11742
Snowa
Glass Joe
 
Human Warrior
 
Silvermoon (EU)
This is indeed true, any Fury Warrior still using Execute in their rotation is only gimping themselves and really needs to look more indepth into his class and rotations.

*Edit - Reply was aimed at Boogione.

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Old 01/09/10, 1:07 PM   #11743
Juneko
Von Kaiser
 
Draenei Hunter
 
Ysera
How do the crafted boots and pants stack up against, say, boots off 25m marrowgar? Worth the saronites?

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Old 01/09/10, 1:13 PM   #11744
Profound
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Rogue
 
Illidan
Originally Posted by Juneko View Post
How do the crafted boots and pants stack up against, say, boots off 25m marrowgar? Worth the saronites?
They're 2nd BIS before HM Frostbitten Fur Boots.

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Old 01/09/10, 1:31 PM   #11745
Fjrebqll
 
Human Mage
 
Hellscream (EU)
Hi there!
There is something I dont seem to be able to understand by reading in this thread and by using rawr.

I just obtained the 2set t10, I wonder, What is the most optimal use before using up the the next mbma procc when your already under the effect from it?
Is it to squeeze in so many AB before haste buff is over and using next mbma unhasted by the procc or is the goal to have the mbma hasted aswell?

I hope there isnt any confusion what I mean.

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