4pt10 is @ 3.5-4% flat dps upgrade. Three Truths is only a 20 Str upgrade over Valiance, the difference of 1 cardinal ruby, with the obvious ramp up time issues. Personally the 4 set is my priority above all else at the moment.


Also, to Stryder's response of Valiance being better for target swap fights... You realistically have 2 options on swap fights when not using Three Truth's. Leave valiance on, seal swap to SoR (therein riding out the duration of the buff from the main target proc) kill the add, then seal swap back to SoV, hopefully fast enough for your 5 stack to not fall off the boss. If this is impossible because of rediculous amounts of switching or having to pick up slack from other players. A pvp libram with SoR/SoComm might be a better option. I believe all spreadsheets still currently list sealtwisting as a net dps loss, so use it sparingly, and be aware that your personal performance contributes a large portion towards it's effectiveness. If at all possible, ignore the adds and focus on the boss, some fights this may be impossible (heroic jaraxxus and anub come to mind) but realistically your raid shouldn't be asking you to swap targets every 10 seconds on farm content.

What are the chances of our tier set getting tweaked? Right now it has a heavy focus on agility which is among our worst stats (and will only get worse with more icc gear), a t8 like stat distribution would give us alot more ep per piece.

I was wondering if anyone has looked at the Dislodged Foreign Object trinket. Rawr is showing me that
its worth less than half of what the Spyglass is. However I believe there is an error and its not taking into
account the proc. It seems like this trinket should be way better than the Spyglass. Object has something
like 1k sp proc vs 200 sp proc on Spyglass, plus the Object has haste vs crit on Spyglass.

Yes, but you should at least let it tick once, otherwise it's a dps loss.

Am I right to assume Shadow's edge is better than Bryntroll for AOE ?

Thanks.

What's better? 23 spell and no socket bonuses or 12 spell 10 spirit with spell socket bonus?

I can't figure out what spirits for but Rawr is telling me 12spell/10spirit is slightly more dps. There's the crit rating it translates (70% with molten armor glyph and 2piece t9) and the 50% mana regen from arcane meditation. But after 4 piece T10, you'll get less crit per spirit, and the haste will probably benefit more from having more spell. So which way to go?

Hiya,

Still learning to tank and am relatively new lvl 80...I know stamina and defense is what I should be shooting for but any suggestions on specific gear and weapons would be helpful. Also, is taunt the best way to keep aggro?

Thanks in advance for input.

Correct. However, the upgrade is so small that you are better off spending your badges in other places for the time being.

Wouldn't it be a smart idea to have them both and swap them depending on the fight for the sustainted proc/dps?

As in use Hanged man on fights where theres not alot of movement, and Virulence for fight were your buff is going to wear off from moving?

In theory yes, but the point is that as it stands the sigil isn't the best use of your Frost Emblems right now, as there are much bigger and less situational upgrades

I'll be interested in seeing more numbers on the waterbolt macros, and perhaps exact text of the macros being used. I tried a preliminary test on the boss target dummy, 2 minutes with/without a /cast waterbolt macro, and saw no difference. However, I was running on a 1 second latency laptop at the time. I'll update this post with numbers from the proper machine when I get a chance to run it again later.