Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 789

ShowXdown · 01/10/10, 6:55 PM

to pongueur

Don't ever exceed 150% haste (which will happen under Blood Lust + Icy Veins if you have 801+ haste rating - 21.41%+ haste unbuff character sheet), you're then under gcd.

I would by no means say that the goal of an arcane mage is to achieve 801 haste, and at that point he should be stopping to stack haste. Maybe it's a missunderstanding and you just want to say not to use other cds (like haste pot or trinket)... i hope so.

Reasons:

- having Icy Veins ready when bloodlust is not used at the beginning is not allways the case.
- Haste is 1,2x SP atm. You recommend to not stack haste because of 40sec of a fight, where you could be overcapped of haste by a margin amount
- Haste is almost twice the value of crit

My recommendation is to stack as much substained haste as possible and remove all haste procs. This won't take you over the cap in BL, and bring you near the cap without BL. If you are clearly over the cap while BL u can spare IV. But recommending to not stack our best stat because of a cap which is only a problem 10% of the fight (assuming an normal boss encounter) will greatly reduce the dps potential of arcane.

slopps · 01/10/10, 7:16 PM

I am actually running into the same problem

I have a 5k+ gs now and have fixed my gem situation and am running into the 3.4-4k dps range. I have been watching the charts of other locks with basically the same build and class of gear (sometimes lower) and they are hitting 5k-6k dps, I mean that's a huge difference in my book, and no matter what I throw from what I have read so far, I can't seem to break 4-4.5k under the best of situations. I am using a 0/14/57 build and it has done well for me for about 4 months now but will be switching to the 0/13/58 build soon I think.

My rotation is CoD > Immolate > Conflag > CB > Spam Incinerate > watch timers and it varies from there (not including my trinks and Glyph of Life Tap), although some locks now suggest throwing in Corr when I have read and been told by a number of locks that the wasted time casting and keeping corr up is damaging to the other timers considering the little gain if any in dps.

Here is a link to my char if anyone want to evaluate what I have, I realize I have two improper enchants but was just getting something on instead of nothing. Also missing a few enchants and I have one piece of pvp gear but I am working on this :P

Just in addition to minglewood post, I usually keep my FPS >15 in my case...not that that answers anything but just thought I would throw that in there.

http://be.imba.hu

Thanks for your time...

pizzathief · 01/10/10, 7:38 PM

So is the 5% HfB damage reduction and poison damage nerf active right now or will it start to become active after the next maintenance window? Are the combat and mutilate specs now even with these nerfs? Many have suggested on the blizzard forums that there would be a mass exodus to the combat spec for serious raiding rogues, does that seem likely? I guess these questions may be answered in the upcoming versions of the spreadsheets.

aal780555 · 01/10/10, 7:58 PM

Need help escaping from dps purgatory

You're basically missing a lot of enchants and are having a general problem on bad gearing.
The thing you need to understand is high gearscore items does not mean it's better in most cases.

As a raiding warlock I would suggest you read the stickies on the official forums, they pretty much sums up the results people here get. There are a lot of issues with your gear, talent, and possibly spell priorities. Basically reading those things would get you a faster and more accurate answer than asking right here on the forums.

The same things goes to the other person that's asking the same question. This is probably not the place to ask these stuffs.

Back on the problem concerning the use of Glyphs, currently with my gear and talent(0/13/58) the use of Glyph of imp is giving me better DPS than Immo and LT, confirming the Simcraft's result for me. Although the benefit is rather small, I expect it to be greater after the Imp buff that Blizzard is going to implement.

Claze · 01/10/10, 8:25 PM

i wanted to hear from the pros :P is using the Embelem of frost trinket really worth it or should i try to get me the armor pen trinket from h fos ?

currently i am using Death's Choice with a shitty embelem of heroism trinket . thanks for the help

riph · 01/10/10, 9:20 PM

I've been working on getting some simulation results for when I get my 2nd piece of tier 10, however I'm not sure what settings to set for Shamanistic Rage and it comes out as a ~200 DPS loss going from 4 piece tier 9 to 2 piece tier 10. So I believe I've configured part of it wrong.

Any help or pointing in the right direction would be greatly appreciated, I can edit with my config file if needed.

slopps · 01/10/10, 9:29 PM

Originally Posted by aal780555

You're basically missing a lot of enchants and are having a general problem on bad gearing.
The thing you need to understand is high gearscore items does not mean it's better in most cases.

As a raiding warlock I would suggest you read the stickies on the official forums, they pretty much sums up the results people here get. There are a lot of issues with your gear, talent, and possibly spell priorities. Basically reading those things would get you a faster and more accurate answer than asking right here on the forums.

The same things goes to the other person that's asking the same question. This is probably not the place to ask these stuffs.

Back on the problem concerning the use of Glyphs, currently with my gear and talent(0/13/58) the use of Glyph of imp is giving me better DPS than Immo and LT, confirming the Simcraft's result for me. Although the benefit is rather small, I expect it to be greater after the Imp buff that Blizzard is going to implement.

Sounds good (appreciate the info), sorry to take unnecessary space on the forum, I'll be sure to take more time than I already have next time, still new to this site, happy posting!

Illundai · 01/10/10, 9:37 PM

Glad I got my Feast of Souls done before this hotfix ^_^. By the way the Putricide part of the quest is kind of a pain, you may end up wiping your raid ;p.

Dregg · 01/10/10, 9:42 PM

Hi,
have been learning quite a bit from you guys during the last year, but I don't recall having seen facts and figures about pet dps scaling. I'd be interested to understand how I can maximize pet dps, i.e. what buffs should I ask people to give to my imp, and is there any petfood that works (Kiblers bits maybe for puppy ?).

If such a thing already exists, it would be great if you could give me a hint on where to look ;-)

thanks !

volcore · 01/10/10, 10:02 PM

I am confused as to why haste is stacked so high. The t10 bis set seems to ignore the so-called "haste cap". Would it make sense to stack any crit/spirit gear once haste has been maxed(if there even is a max, I'm not really sure)?

Shifting · 01/10/10, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by volcore

I am confused as to why haste is stacked so high. The t10 bis set seems to ignore the so-called "haste cap". Would it make sense to stack any crit/spirit gear once haste has been maxed(if there even is a max, I'm not really sure)?

1640 is the gcd cap with no buffs. Although the "real" cap is much higher for incin to reach 1 sec.(2200+ i believe)

Mutant · 01/10/10, 11:17 PM

People are very, very lazy

Mutant · 01/10/10, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by Arghoslent

As I mentioned in my previous posts, I had the same problem. In my case, it was an addon called SLDataText. After I disabled it, I experience no hiccups at all.

Ive been having strange D/C problems, I was hoping it wasnt SLdata text

Hyber · 01/10/10, 11:27 PM

Unless I'm mistaken, until recently the rotation was IT -> PS -> BS -> BS -> SS --> etc. The guide shows PS first now. Why use PS first?

Was this a shift in the updated version? Or am I mistake and it's been that way the whole time? I dug back a few pages.

I kept an IT -> PS castsequence macro for TotC and figured it would serve me well in movement fights in ICC. I like it for Marrowgar and Lady Deathwhisper, for sure. I figure the GCD I save on-target by casting on the run is easily worth it. For me, then, the question is "why use PS first in a Single or AoE sequence with 90-100% up-time?" What's the gain?

Mutant · 01/10/10, 11:32 PM

I always look at Damage done over dps