Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 790

Mutant · 01/10/10, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by Kellendros

its seems like seal of vengeance ticks and refreshment do not proc drain life anymore, the nerf is already there.
What happend is that those are not considered melee hits anymore, it does not only reduces bryntroll efectiveness but also berserking uptime.

I didnt think they ever procced Drain life

I thought the thing proccing it was divine storm and because of multiple mobs it was overpowered

not 100% though

Mutant · 01/10/10, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by frmorrison

Nope, I must have made a typo, fixed. Haste is pretty nice.

Phew, thought I was going crazy there for a sec

Mutant · 01/10/10, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by Uh-Oh

That is one of the nice things about the changes that Ghostcrawler pointed out. Because they are so simple - dialing back HfB, the spec is not changed and nothing otherwise should change. The only reason to put Rupture back into the rotation would be if you felt you could get it to do more damage than Envenom+the extra poison procs Envenom gives. I don't see you using it with the only slight changes they made to poison damage.

That is the lovely thing about Mut rogues, that little OP dial

AmandaDawn · 01/10/10, 11:52 PM

I don't understand why I'm not doing the dps that my spreadsheet says I should. I have pretty good gear and my spreadsheet says 8k+, and I've added in latency and such. But I'm only pulling 4.9-5.5k on bosses...what am I doing wrong? Rotation is: Mark, Serpent, Chimera, Aimed, Steady until a cd is up and then play whack-a-mole with my cds, and I have Kill Command macro'd in with my readiness and Rapid Fire and I pop it when its up but I hit Kill Command separately while the other two are down....am I doing something wrong? Or am I just a fail hunter in general? Any suggestions would be appreciated. =)

Mutant · 01/10/10, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by frmorrison

Now that the SoV DoT cannot proc weapon enchants (see Byrntroll nerf in the Ret thread), that makes Mongoose/Blade Ward weaker than before. Doing 10 minute test on a dummy doing a the full rotation, I went from around 50% (pre-nerf) to around 30% for Blade Ward.

I suspect I will keep the current enchant, but it does make Accuracy (which is over-budget) if you want threat or Blood Draining if you want to be more defensive seem like better options.

I have always found Blood draining on par if not better than Blade ward for tanking anyway. This new change might make me switch out Mongoose though which is a bummer

zakaria · 01/11/10, 12:01 AM

does anyone know if it's possible to leave pet on rotface when the unstable ooze explosion happens ? because I consider this duration of running away from it dps loss for pet at least (I use all instant on rotface), can cower and avoidance handle the dmg from missiles or they aren't considered as AoE ?

Earantur · 01/11/10, 12:05 AM

The gain, as has probably been mentioned several times before, is 10% extra damage on your first Icy Touch and on the first 20 seconds of Frost Fever due to RoR.

khardan · 01/11/10, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by riph

I've been working on getting some simulation results for when I get my 2nd piece of tier 10, however I'm not sure what settings to set for Shamanistic Rage and it comes out as a ~200 DPS loss going from 4 piece tier 9 to 2 piece tier 10. So I believe I've configured part of it wrong.

Any help or pointing in the right direction would be greatly appreciated, I can edit with my config file if needed.

Please post your config. There could be many things wrong, but without the config we're clueless on how to help you.

riph · 01/11/10, 1:36 AM

Originally Posted by khardan

Please post your config. There could be many things wrong, but without the config we're clueless on how to help you.


			
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Sutira · 01/11/10, 1:47 AM

Hi there,

recently i've been reading a lot about the "enhancement melee crit cap" but couldn't really find some information about it. Anybody willing to share where this cap is, heard something bout 42,5% critrate unbuffed. True / False?

Thanks in Advance

Ruinvastator · 01/11/10, 1:54 AM

I just respecced to MM after seeing it should give me (in ideal conditions of course) about 270 dps increase. I'm sorry if this was answered before - I read some pages of Marksmanship post but felt discouraged after seeing how many pages are there: when in MM rotation should Rapid Fire be?
In spreadsheet's rotation test it's: Silencing/RF/Serpent/Chimera/Arcane/Aimed/Readiness/Silencing/Chimera/Arcane/Aimed/Steady/Steady/RF/Arcane...
But isn't RF's haste only affecting Steady? Does it affect other shots as well? And why isn't RF used as a first one after Readiness, since it's a first one at the beginning of shots?

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I did check MM posts, most of it at least, it's a bit outdated at the beginning. I did use search tool but found nothing I needed, maybe because you can't use two letter words (like RF and MM) in your queries. So it isn't hand-holding.

muddrock · 01/11/10, 2:35 AM

Here is my Armory page is there anything i can improve gem enchant or spec wise?
The World of Warcraft Armory

Tenku · 01/11/10, 2:45 AM

Originally Posted by Fivedkpminus

Also, i seriously doubt that you end with full Mana at the end of the anub'ruak fight...... unless you have like 3340 mp5 and get spammed with Innervates.

Read better what i wrote. I wrote that you have full mana "During Anu25HC mana outside of last phase". If you dont have full mana back between adds waves or before Anu emerge there is something rly bad with small scarabs handling and you are already in wipe situation due to debuff in leeching swarm phase or you need to try and prolong entering to leeching swarm phase.
Ofc i am OOM at the end of leeching swarm phase.

shz · 01/11/10, 3:09 AM

The Problem I have is that my 3rd & 4rd T9 is still iLevel232 so is the 4T9 still worth wearing the ilvl 232 over the 251 T10?

thedivinity · 01/11/10, 3:15 AM

Originally Posted by zacheryah

red socket = 23 spellpower
yellow socket =12 spellpower + 10 haste

Jc sockets/belt = 23 spellpower

and go for whatever trinket offers the highest spellpower

is it true? the best possible way to gem your items while 3.3 ?

Originally Posted by zacheryah

since 12 spellpower + 10 haste, is better then 20 haste itself, but worse then 23

and what about this?
if thats true, why gemming the yellow socket with spellpower AND haste, instead of only spellpower ?

this leads me to my next question. how much haste should we have at minimum as related to the spellpower? its freakin me out, somehow