Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 793

meatmick · 01/11/10, 2:00 PM

Yeah well that's what I think too since I have Heroic Fury so 2x intercept.

I guess that 8% counts for more as by the time you reach the boss this 8% bonus will probably give you 1 more hit on it + helping for many other encounters.

So anyone think Tuskarr > Icewalker even with Heroic Fury ? Unless I should remove Heroic Fury and put it elsewhere like x3 cleave talent.

goliath0 · 01/11/10, 2:30 PM

I was wondering what is the best raid-heal spec for 10 man.
Holy dishes out burst AoE healing but Disc with its shields allows you to stabilize the situation and spam heal all day. And in 10 man there are only 2 groups to heal, only 8 people if paladin handles the tanks.

What do you think?

I also thought about something along those lines:
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?prie...-FRXbpS,,11159

No guardian spirit, but an all-in-one package.

junkpriest · 01/11/10, 2:48 PM

As an example: For Putricide you could get targeted by the red slimes, have to run around grenades, dodge bouncing slimes, need to run between green slimes and the boss, and possibly run along with the boss while dpsing all of which can easily occur within a one minute time frame. Intercept and heroic fury cover running to the green slime and back and that's about it, and if your tank has a run-speed enchant/talent like they should then you can be left behind.

I am currently using nitro boosts as three charge moves have generally been fine (and nitro is still good for escaping many things in Putricide). However, in light of that fight I've been debating keeping a second pair of boots on hand with tuskarr/cat's, especially if future fights continue in a movement-heavy direction. For any non-engineers the choice should never be anything except run-speed.

Ghorogoth · 01/11/10, 3:30 PM

Originally Posted by Valten

Ghoro - appreciate the long post. I was always a fan of the LT glyph. One thing I'm curious about, if you've done the numbers, is what LT glyph benefits you per immolate duration. For each immolate you get:

15s rotation:
920 damage from immolate (your numbers)
1.2k dmg from 1 conflag, and you get 1.5 conflagsper immolate = 1800

totaly damage gained: 2720 damage.
Let's put this in terms of 40s, the LT glyph duration, > 40/15 * 2720 = 7253 damage

So now the question is with your spirit, does the added spellpower make up for 1 GCD and 7253 damage over 40 seconds?

Now we need to add in all the other spells you'd use over 40s, 2/3s a CoD, incinerates, Chaos bolts, immos and conflags, along with added pet dps from higher SP. If someone wants to do this, great, or else run simcraft just to see...

I'd do the calcs now but I'm on my phone, so maybe layer. Would anyone else want to? It really depends on your gear and fight mechanics. I haven't used destro in a while though, so please take everything with a grain of salt.

It might not be clear what i mean i guess. My point is that: In a theory (dummy/patchwerk) LTap glyph is best, but in reality (Hodir etc etc) with my gamestyle atleast immolate beats it.

meatmick · 01/11/10, 4:20 PM

Aight, I guess I'll give it a shot and see for myself. Anyways the the and hit loss wont really reflect on my dps.

ilidan · 01/11/10, 4:42 PM

I thought service packs were strickly for Windows XP, but i'll try and download the latest version(i think its version 3) and see if that helps

Sakima · 01/11/10, 5:20 PM

I get the following error when trying to import from file.

"Too old version of export file. Not supported."

I tried downloading from gear and talents to which I get the following error.

"Server is down or otherwise unavailable"

I jumped into Armory to see if it was working and it came up no problem. When I click on the 'ok' button I then get the following error:

"Microsoft Visual Basic
Run-time error '91':
Object variable or With block variable not set"

It gives me three options: End, Debug, or Help.

So I'm wondering is this related to my version of Excel? I have Excel 2003.

warriorpooh · 01/11/10, 5:24 PM

Cat's Swiftness > Tuskarr's for dps.

buckshots · 01/11/10, 5:30 PM

just looking for feed back on how to optimize dps with the gear that i have should i use black magic enchant instead of sp enchant etc. The World of Warcraft Armory

Rambaral · 01/11/10, 5:32 PM

Is Tiny (and later its heroic type) going to be one of the two trinkets we want for the rest of this content? Right now it's looking to be so, and I just wanted to plan my dkp around what is going to be a highly desired item in the raid.

CrunCher · 01/11/10, 5:38 PM

What is the first t10 piece you should buy? I have the 25 man mark off saurfang for the 10.25(?) piece. i have 99 frost marks right now, and im planning on getting the shoulders, upgrade those, then get the gloves later this week. Is this a good path? Usually chest/pants are the best offset piece I thought so I wasnt gonna buy one of those (badge chest?)

angaroth · 01/11/10, 6:21 PM

Having received an infraction for stating how Glyphing works in my specific case I will clarify and generalize my response:

Regardless of whether or not the Imp is buffed as is currently bandied about by blue posts - for gear that is a blend of ToC and ICC or higher there is a very good chance that the Glyph of Imp is already better than the Glyph of Life Tap.

Risking another infraction for your benefit by saying something that isn't new - run your own profile through simcraft. Play with glyphs. Play with fight duration. Play with latency and player skill and add counts and fight style to more closely represent the raids that *you* are going on, rather than those that madlax or warlocomotif are doing. Aside from Glyph of Conflagrate there are very few absolute ideals.

griff12 · 01/11/10, 7:02 PM

6k hps on festergurt is np
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

fiverz · 01/11/10, 7:09 PM

Originally Posted by Furion

if TargetDebuffPresent(Rake 0.4 mine=1) and {Mana(more 79) or BuffPresent(OMEN) or {TargetDebuffExpires(RIP 2 mine=1) and ComboPoints(less 5)} or BuffPresent(BERSERK) or 2s before Spell(TIGER) or {ComboPoints(less 1) and BuffExpires(ROAR 2)}} Spell(SHRED)

That's most of my current shred suggestions including what you want to do with TF.

Is there anyway that you can post your most recent script? TIA

Exelzzor · 01/11/10, 8:05 PM

Hey,would it be worth it to spend the 40k for Shadow's edge even tho im not getting Shadowmourne or just go straight for bryntoll or cryptmaker when it's gonna be available?