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Old 01/20/09, 7:49 AM   #1976
Gungne
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Paladin
 
Nethersturm (EU)
How does 3.0.8 affect which poison to use for a mutliate rogue? I heard something about IP on Mainhand and DP on OH.... Is that true?

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Old 01/20/09, 1:47 PM   #1977
sliverr
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Korgath
I am making the switch from 50/21 bm to survival and want to make sure my understanding of the optimal survival spec/geming/rotation/pet/etc is correct to insure optimal dps.

1: spec: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

is this close to what I am looking at for the cookie cutter max dps surv spec

2: gem/ench

agi > ap?

3: pet: raptor > cat?

Pet Calculator - Wowhead

4: shot rotation

Explosive Shot > Kill Shot > Serpent Sting > Aimed Shot > Steady Shot

no arcane shot?

5: macro

anyone have one?



thanks in advance.

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Old 01/20/09, 2:16 PM   #1978
saedo
King Hippo
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Gorgonnash
Originally Posted by Mideci View Post
Not to be a pedant, but the English-language way to say this is "gets worse". If it "gets worst", you'd be saying (poorly), it becomes the lowest-value, i.e. worst profession. What you appear to be saying instead is that it loses value. And the way to say that is "gets worse."
All right, I apologize, I have the wrong word in my mind for it. But grammatically speaking, "gets worst" isn't correct either for my misunderstood meaning. It would have to be "becomes worst" or "gets to be the worst" for it to truly make sense for it to become lowest-value.

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Old 01/20/09, 2:21 PM   #1979
lumadar
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Hunter
 
The Forgotten Coast
Quite the interesting thread. I am working on figuring out how I want to max out my HIT right now, so I will keep a close eye on this topic.

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Old 01/20/09, 6:28 PM   #1980
Badjujus
Glass Joe
 
Undead Rogue
 
Frostmane
With patch today this is now implemented, Sounds good... But personally i feel Like the melee range requirement is holding it back.

Any thoughts?

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Old 01/20/09, 6:30 PM   #1981
chillenah
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Ursin
i dont get it!

hey im a full pve resto druid ive got decent gear for how long ive been raiding...but i still come behind most people in healing and mana gained...my gear is all out spirit and mana regen and ive got bout 1650 unbuffed in tree and i still get out healed by other druids...i mean i understand pallys and priests but other druids out healin me is makin me mad plus how im last on mana regen...is there anyway i can get any advice on how to heal/fix my mana regen problem without gettin laughed at?

P.S. i am aware im probly bad compared to many of you but i have to start some where

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Old 01/20/09, 7:17 PM   #1982
Reinforce
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Outland (EU)
Thanks for clearing the confusion! Definitely a good talent, then.

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Old 01/20/09, 8:31 PM   #1983
Octopi
Von Kaiser
 
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Draenei Death Knight
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Relwin View Post
Ok, I have finally had it with shot rotation macros after seeing a hunter ask for one to use with his alt druid last week. They do not provide a rotation that is unable to be reproduced by hand like they did in 2.4, and at this point are solely used by poor hunters to remove skill from their play. If you need a shot macro to hold your hand then you are probably on the wrong forums.

Any shot macros posted after this post will earn their posters a week's vacation from the boards.

In closing, L2P scrubs.


Why do your personal feelings have to have anything to do with building macros.

Or is this a forum made solely for you to whine and act like a tyrannical asshole on?

I thought this was a place to get information, not a soapbox for you to soak in your own spittle.

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Old 01/20/09, 8:55 PM   #1984
Bleh278
Banned
 
Malamati
Night Elf Hunter
 
Non-US/EU Server (EU)
Originally Posted by Nakari View Post
Way to get banned.
On the topic, this forum is not the right place to learn how to play bad / stupid, what essentially is what shot macros post 3.0 do. The WotLK changes to Steady Shot made shot macros unnecessary (exluding macroing some pet abilities to shots, which really isn't a rotation macro which Relwin's post was about), unless you can't be bothered to press more than ~4 buttons to do good DPS - if that's the case, perhaps the EJ forum is not for you.
It's quite astonishing (and sometimes mind boggling) how hard some hunters try to maintain a "one button fits it all" macro just so they can circumvent Blizzard's attempts to make the class a bit more interesting
And who gives a dime if ones get banned by some abusive mod on the interweb ... ?

This forum is a respected forum, because you can find some TECHNICAL information on the game mechanic that you can't find any other place, and also because people tend to post in a polite and correct manner. If mods start acting worse than the people they police, what's the meaning ?

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Old 01/21/09, 12:02 AM   #1985
Kepi
Glass Joe
 
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Orc Shaman
 
Mug'thol
Originally Posted by Led ++ View Post
Latest update with:
Better buff/debuffs
Better DogTags
Use NeedToKnow to see deseases (I dont care about the rest)
Completely removed any sort of SCT and replaced with EavesDrop
Repositioned a few things.

Wish I could've shown a party shot but no one ever invites me for instances =(

http://hdimage.org/images/yop4rrzgts...2009212327.jpg
http://hdimage.org/images/fa75y081772y48al2m1_ddons.jpg
is that Windows OS your running or no? and very nice ui btw.

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Old 01/21/09, 12:04 AM   #1986
Rendere77
Glass Joe
 
Orc Hunter
 
Crushridge
Thanks, that is just what I was wondering.

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Old 01/21/09, 12:26 AM   #1987
blitzseed
Von Kaiser
 
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Human Death Knight
 
Anvilmar
Yes, i'm going to say he/she is using Stardock.com - Your Edge In Software or something like it.

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Old 01/21/09, 12:35 AM   #1988
Oth
Piston Honda
 
Human Warlock
 
Cenarius
Well, I'm just so glad that Blizzard's CM is maintaining its high standards. It reminds me of the halcyon days when Fear would break in a new way every patch.

(And I'm not taking the summoning issue into account here, if that's a legitimate exploit issue. This was just egregious, and a perfect example of why you never ever EVER EEEEEEEVER push something live that is only on your internal server when you have a perfectly good PUBLIC server where people are telling you things are not working properly.)

Heeno: Sundial only procs from harmful spells; it never procced from Fel Armor (to my knowledge).

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Old 01/21/09, 1:22 AM   #1989
DarkSTorM2000
Glass Joe
 
Troll Hunter
 
Alleria
Hi guys,

I was thinking about switching to Survival with this new patch and I was wondering with the new change of Arcane shot(reduce mana cost) and the nerf of steady shot, is it a good idea to add it in the survival shot rotation?
I was thinking something like this: Serpent sting, explosive shot, arcane shot, steady shot

Does that make sence? I've never been Survival spec, so any advice would be appreciate, which glyph is the best etc...

I was thinking about this build: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

Any suggestion?

Thanks in advance !

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Old 01/21/09, 3:01 AM   #1990
Omegatron
Von Kaiser
 
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Troll Hunter
 
Malfurion
I was able to write a spam macro that seems to work well with the patch.

/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/cast Kill Shot
/cast Berserking(Racial)
/castrandom Arcane Shot, Arcane Shot, Arcane Shot, Steady Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:UnregisterEvent("UI_ERROR_MESSAGE")
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1

Sometimes steady will fire off twice when arcane is up, but overall its a handy tool. I play a troll so the racial line can be taken out etc.

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Old 01/21/09, 3:29 AM   #1991
GregGates
Glass Joe
 
Orc Rogue
 
Aggramar
FoK was 22% of my overall clear damage tonight. I did 12,000 dps on the first spider pack.

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Old 01/21/09, 5:18 AM   #1992
Shinsoku
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Rogue
 
Altar of Storms
Windows OS w/ some visual style from deviantart (possibly the best place to get themes)

lassekongo83 makes some damn nice themes, fyi.

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Old 01/21/09, 6:29 AM   #1993
Led ++
Piston Honda
 
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Undead Death Knight
 
Draenor (EU)
Originally Posted by Shinsoku View Post
Windows OS w/ some visual style from deviantart (possibly the best place to get themes)

lassekongo83 makes some damn nice themes, fyi.
Jup, you just need to download a Windows Patcher and run it .. forgot the name right now tho.

But yeah it's Windows XP with a theme from Deviant art

http://thepiratebootybay.com/ THE best Addon site out there!

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Old 01/21/09, 7:40 AM   #1994
goldmoon
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
Neptulon (EU)
best gem?

hello expert hunters what is the best gem to use as mm hunter ap or agi?

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Old 01/21/09, 7:53 AM   #1995
Janne12
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Stormreaver (EU)
Originally Posted by Korhaug View Post
You have 3/3 Intensity (which with your low spirit doesn't do a lot for you anyway) and 3/3 Moonglow. You can move 2 points to Improved Moonfire and 3 points to Improved Faerie Fire. Even if you have to innervate yourself once in a fight, it's still a significant dps gain.
I actually did a whole new specc, which should be a plus to my dps. Can't wait for next naxx run! with loads of hastepotions to be used, jeejee.

... Though I need more practice with IS MF wrath till eclipse starfire rotation... Only 3.1k dps in 10man vault :E

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Old 01/21/09, 9:19 AM   #1996
Panadys
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Mal'Ganis (EU)
Improved Shields / LHW nerfed or not?

First of all, I want to thank your for this detailed discussion, wich lead me to spec on 0/16/55 with 3 points in better flamethounge / strength totem an no points in better HW / better CH.

Yes i know this is quite radical. But in my opion only a bit forward thinking in terms of this thread.

For those who might want a little background info. I'm resto since launch BC on Mal'ganis EU and love it. Leveling up to 80 at enhancement (which i needed as a casual as I am) I ended up at respeccing resto with pure 70 ZA/SSC/heroic badges Equip.

As far as i am lucky having a guild taking me with (1,5 k SP @ beginning) them to 25 Naxx each Sun I could reach little imrpvements in equip. with 1755 SP and something above 30% crit unbuffed mana is around 18 k. I glyphed healing stream / LHW / WS

Even under these bad equip conditions i could now heal some 25 encounter with no manaproblems even @ Patchwork, wich we do in 4:11 right now. As much as my Sp and Crit rises I will be able climbing up the total healing done ledder. Wich is quite difficult with 3 COH priests in my raid.

Summarized: I love this spec. With a few changes it should also greatly work in pvp - as far as i often give ES someone else, as long as I learned ES i no kind of thing I will last long from cos of purging or stealing it etc. But rigt now i love this spec espeacially fpr PvE. I got only to focus (this is my opinion regarding my act. eq status) +crit and SP. I avoid items with haste cos with TW my LHW is at .9 wich is quite enough.

SO heres my question. Installing Patch 3.0.8 right now i had no chance to test it but theres a siginificant difference in patchnotes in english and german language, wich is as far as i could see is not causes by mistaken translation.

EN: Shaman

* All shaman talent points have been refunded. Please visit your trainer to learn spells and abilities.
* Fire Nova Totem: Now no longer generates threat.
* Healing Way: Now only one application is required to reach full benefit. No longer stacks.
* Improved Water Shield: Lesser Healing Wave now has a reduced chance to trigger this talent.

how awfull - seems Blizz wants to get us back to CH spam / MP5 collecting

GER

*Verbesserter Wasserschild: 'Geringe Welle der Heilung' hat nun eine höhere Chance, dieses Talent auszulösen.

what exactly says the opponent of the english note.

So what to beleave? Is there a future for LHW spam (beleaving EN version is right)? Or am a a damn lucky ass - playing on a german realm :-P

Last edited by Panadys : 01/21/09 at 9:25 AM.

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Old 01/21/09, 9:49 AM   #1997
omegablack
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Windrunner
with the changes to bm what would be the raiding bm spec and what would be a good macro with arcane shot on it. i still want to be bm cause it's my playstyle .

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Old 01/21/09, 9:52 AM   #1998
rulcherkizovo
 
Draenei Hunter
 
Warsong (EU)
Hi all. Plz ask macro 0/14/57 Macro Surv bild

Last edited by rulcherkizovo : 01/21/09 at 10:11 AM.

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Old 01/21/09, 10:32 AM   #1999
Synergy
Von Kaiser
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
Burning Blade
Originally Posted by Jerem View Post
Sniper Training gives Aimed Shot a 6% bonus.
If you can trap-dance, a real instant is better than a 0.5 sec cast, since you'll be shooting while moving.
If you're not trap dancing, you should be far enough to take advantage of Sniper Training.

Forgot about Sniper, thanks.

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Old 01/21/09, 11:22 AM   #2000
Teme
Von Kaiser
 
Human Death Knight
 
Barthilas
Lol Meneldil just noticed your on barth pst me on your DK we do some testing sometime

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