First off, nice dps Palmz, but your reading of the WoL parses seems a bit wrong. In the parse of the first week Festergut you do ~22.5k dps, in the second week ~17.5K dps, sounds like a decent dps drop to me. Same story for the Rotface fight, but the dps difference is smaller there; 20k vs 18k.

I know that even these fights are not perfect tank'n'spank and can have fight dependent dps changes from week to week, but you can't deny you lost quite some dps on the two most stable fights in icc just over one week time.

I'm really sorry if my following post is off-topic. But there is something which may be intersting appears on off. forums regarding the current DPS of Enh. Shamans.

Can anybody say something about H: Black Bruise as MH-weapon? Is it worthwhile to change H: Bloodvenom Blade to this? I can't test it properly

Simcraft is what it is, a simulation. There are often quite big differences between simulations and the real. I was looking at my own personal dps. Now obviously my gear isnt BiS as i'm in a 10 man guild. I have reforged out of crit into haste where possible or otherwise mastery. I'm hit capped.

Before the patch my dps as Affliction was about 1.5k above my dps as destruction. The patch hit and whilst my overall dps went up the difference was about the same. They hotfixed drain soul and suddenly my destro dps is 3k above my affliction dps.

Below is the log from our last raid. We were trying some hardmodes for the first time hence some of the wipes and trying to do Lich King with 3 melee dps isnt advisable especially when they had the habit of stunning valkyr in defile.

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

expertise cap has been tested to death in the sticked cataclysm warrior changes thread here at EJ. looks like 5.6-5.7% dodge chance, 22 exp as lemina said.

I also agree I'm finding HS is not as good as either BT or RB per point of rage. So seems reasonable to conclude HS should be used only if you have excess rage (HS still greater than slam last time i checked though).

but on this point I think its still HS > BT > RB for an unlimited rage situation. BT strikes twice during the same period as RB strikes once (6sec). Delaying one BT also delays the follow BT's and 2xBT > RB.

I actually did a 25m normal Dreamwalker and got around 19k HPS. My strategy going in was to keep Rejuv up and spam Regrowth except during Lust, where I would spam HT. I think I could do better with just spamming HT (with Rejuv up, of course) the whole time. I honestly don't feel like Lifebloom has a higher HPS than HT, but someone who's done the math may prove me wrong. Back in 3.3.3, I'm pretty sure Lifebloom's bloom wasn't affected by those things you collect in the dream realm, so I thought it might have translated over to 4.0.1.

Your Festergut parse is inflated by tons of people dying at about the start of execute phase, which led to a very long sub 25% where the pre nerf Drain Soul had you spiking over 53k DPS. This is where real enounters differ from a simulated Patchwerk.

hi there i tried to shoot for 30% m8 and it worked fine. i suggest u try and see

If you're having rage problems I suppose I would agree with you but if you follow my setup you won't really ever have Rage problems. I just tested it again and I still come to the same conclusion HS>BT>RB. I only can tell you this try it out follow the steps I've wrote above and I guarantee you that you will see a boost in dps.

Improved soul fire is a 15 sec cooldown effect. Think read tooltips before posting would be great for all.

but HS has no priority clash with BT and RB apart from rage. it's not on the GCD.
so saying HS is number 1 priority suggests that you should spend your rage on HS rather than BT and/or RB if you have to choose, which is not true.

For unlimited Rage you will use a rotation of BT-RB-BT-Space and again where the space can be filled with either Slam, shouts or even WW if you like.
If you have limited rage the only thing you have to look at is DPRage and in this point RB wins. Of course if you reach 100 Rage while using HS and RB on CD you should use BT but it is not recommended to spend your rage on BT while not have enough for RB then.

A. Nadoo to prove my point have you A. Tried what I said out at all on a Target Dummy and or Boss fights?
B. The answer is probably no and how much are you doing on the Target Dummy and or Boss fights right now doing it your way?
C. I will guarantee you not as much as I am.
D. HS is your number #1 Priority obviously you can que it up with BT and other abilities only if you have the required rage to do so. But if you stop telling me I'm wrong and actually try it you're gonna see the difference.

Seeing that Heroic Strike does more damage than BT and RB and BT coming 2nd to HS, You should be using HS with something else and never letting HS sit , Hit it when its up and never leave it on cool down and again I don't have rage problems doing HS>BT>RB. If you want please do use Wow parses or Recount or Skada and show me what your ending damage is after 2 million damage.

I don't get your point...

And because I forgot to ask...
Did you also tried Haste for Crit?

I dunno if this has been addressed and I'm too lazy to search through previous posts to find out, but is Glyph of Scourge Strike Additive or Multiplicative?

think it's going to be a very detailed thread

Today MMO-Champ posted some catch up news, including the statement that only the lvl-277 arena weapons had a ratings requirement. I'd seen this mentioned in other threads as well.

This AM I checked the arena vendors in Dalaran and Area-52 (just to be safe), and either the information is wrong, or more likely, out off date. The 277 gear (not just weapons) have ratings requirements, 2400 I believe. The 264 gear, including weapons, have a lower, 1800, requirement as well. For both the rating is now either Arena OR rated BGs.

*edit* What I wrote above is true, in that the items are shown with their requirements, and show as red, but apparently you can still go ahead and buy them. Also apparently, you cannot return them if you make a mistake, so be careful out there. I'd test this myself, but already bought a bunch of gems, and need to build up points again

What is the viability of using the Selfless Healer talent for a DPS boost? It would seem during the use of AW and Zealotry an extra 12% damage for 10 seconds at the cost of 1 GCD to pop WoG would be worth it.

Also in the glyph section. Glyph of Hammer of Wrath is not linked. I was also wondering about the Consecration glyph, in the section it says none of the Major Glyphs are a DPS gain. Obviously there is the mana benefit from the increased duration, but doesn't the longer duration and less frequent casting free up extra GCD's giving you a potential DPS increase?

A. yes i use a very similar setup and am very happy with this.
B/C. our gear is not the same so this is irrelevant.
D.
All im saying is that you are working on the basis that everyone has unlimited rage. I always have HS, BT and RB on CD as i stated before, however I realise that if I didnt have the rage then BT and RB would take priority.
HS is 30 rage, BT and RB are 20. So in terms of rage cost: 2HS=3BT or RB.
2HS does not hit harder than any 3 combination of BT and RB (i.e. 3 BT).

2 parries would only be expected if you were infront which you would get anyway unless you have the hard exp cap.
There is testing in the cataclysm warrior changes sticky, and i also have not had any dodges with 22 exp 174 rating for me although apparently it might be 173 or 172.

In general I agree with your guide.

Blue posters said a few days ago that they intended that all of the sub-2000 arena rating-required wrathful items to be buyable for everyone. This basically includes everything except shoulders, T2 weapons, and the tabard, they just haven't taken the opportunity to update the tooltip.

Just wondering with the new stats on the reforged and regemmed gear downgrading the importance of haste. I presume that this is due to the bis gear pushing haste over 1400 rating cap and thereby gaining very little benefit from it.

Currently I have 1089 haste rating, should I be prioritising getting haste up to 1269 rating for the next immolate tick and then getting to the cap of 1401 before switching to other stats.

Also do the haste rating caps take into consideration the mind quickening haste raid buff that will be generally available to all raiders so that one would not necessarily require a personal rating of 1400 for a raid but have the haste rating augmented by the mind quickening buff?