Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 824

Nheo · 01/18/10, 10:28 AM

Excelent info that haste-calculator. It teached me that I don't need a speed-potion when I pop everything I got on Heroism. Cheers for that

Vodkablock · 01/18/10, 10:51 AM

ok thanks i had a read on wowiki and that does make alot more sense now thanks

Gryzemuis · 01/18/10, 11:16 AM

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Didn't notice the new sticky yet: The Blue Post Thread

Cardano · 01/18/10, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Diev

What.s this hit table exactly? Having %def, dodge, etc so the sum is 100? Or being def capped?

Perhaps a better way to explain the gearing ideal would be this:
1: DEF until Crit is removed from the Hit table : Always goal #1 for any tank set
2: Avoidance AND/OR block until HIT is removed from the Hit table

At that point every attack should be blocked and therefore reduced by block value after armor reduction.
It is important to remember that Tankadins almost always include the Holy Shield charges in that 102.4% calculation since you get 8 charges every 6 seconds. HOWEVER, Anub adds eat those charges way too fast for you to include HS. ICC attack speeds are high enough that 1 mob should not ever eat your HS charges faster than you put them up, but 2 ICC mobs can easily eat the charges fast enough to make you pray for a Redoubt proc.

So it is important to make sure you understand the assumptions you are making when attempting to cap a block set. Ignoring HS for Anub-Adds, and including radiance and mob attack speed in your calculations for ICC.

Mewan · 01/18/10, 11:56 AM

I have a short question:

I'm a holy paladin and I love my job. Yet, I have still to change to the whole Holy and then spec into Prot deal. I love my 51/0/20 so much and have a hard time letting it go. It kind of fits my playstyle even in raids.

Is that just stupid of me?

Leemo · 01/18/10, 12:12 PM

I have not really started raiding with my Shammy healer yet but I do heal anything that comes my way Heroic Dungeon wise. I never have Mana issues. My armor set is mostly MP5 based but I am in the process of swapping certain items out for the elemental armor that has haste. Also swapping out Gems because I cast way to slow. When I do actually manage to loose people in our 5 man runs it is because I simply cast to slowly. I have healed Totc 10 man and OS 10 and 25 man raids and never had mana issues. To me this means I can do away with some MP5 and move to haste am I looking at it correctly? MY haste is really low it takes me 2.23 seconds to cast a chain heal or healing wave spell right now.

This is my first healing class and I am doing pretty good now that I have read your guys advice and feel like I am moving in the right direction for raid healing. Healing keeps me a lot busier then my SV hunter does.

Typically I set earth shield on the tank and when he pulls I throw a riptide on him and then watch the dps for anyone grabbing aggro from the tank if they do I riptide them and throw out a chain heal if they are melee or a LHW if they are ranged. Then I spend the rest of the fight throwing riptide on the tank/dps as they take damage to keep the SP buff from my totem. 1 or 2 ch and my MAna never goes below 18 to 20 K even in the new ICC 5 mans on the bosses. The biggest mana drain I have seen is in HPOS when you start up the hill before the ice cave, the first 2 groups. After both groups I am around 10K mana (what I mean is second group is pulled without a break to mana up). Any suggestions would be appreciated if you see a flaw in my style of healing. Oh yes and my overheals usually run about 15 to 25% is that good or bad?

Currently have the tier 9 - 2 piece bonus also.

Tahapenes · 01/18/10, 12:44 PM

Not sure if this should be its own seperate thread (please split off if it should) or part of the 3.3 compendium, but I don't see it as really being part of the General Discussion forum even though it's for a fight because it's Warlock specific in regard to aspects of the Blood Princes (tanking of Prince Keleseth specifically).

I've been looking over the fight for the Blood Princes and specifically tanking of Prince Keleseth and what kind of spec will be most optimal for survival of the Empowered Shadow Lances and overall threat generation.

So far I have not read nor heard of the maximum number of Dark Nuclei that can be up at a given time, nor how clustered they can become, nor how long they live, so how many stacks of the Shadow Resonance we'll get at any given time. As such, I don't think it's viable for us to think that we're going to have more than 2 Shadow Resonance on us at any given time and I think it more likely we're going to have to depend on having only a single Shadow Resonance on us.

Going with these assumptions in mind I have come up with the following spec: WoWHead Warlock Spec 0/30/41 - Prince Keleseth tanking

This spec, with running Fel Hunter, should give us approximately 16% base spell damage reduction, a potential of 30% more spell damage reduction depending on the pRNG, a large threat boost through Searing Pain, along with some self healing and mana gain.

The final glyph should be more a matter of taste and preferrence (I personally would lean more towards the Incinerate glyph myself).

Omerra · 01/18/10, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Mewan

I have a short question:

I'm a holy paladin and I love my job. Yet, I have still to change to the whole Holy and then spec into Prot deal. I love my 51/0/20 so much and have a hard time letting it go. It kind of fits my playstyle even in raids.

Is that just stupid of me?

The benefits of Prot just far outweigh the talents in Ret. In my very early days, I was Ret too and it was pretty good. But, once I went Prot I never looked back.

Divine Sacrifice/Guardian is a very potent cooldown to have, and having a 1 minute SS is a lifesaver when it comes to saving GCDs. Ret may seem good, but it's really rather mediocre. Crit is one of our worst stats, and that's all Ret is full of. At least give Prot a chance, to see if you like it.

tr0tsky · 01/18/10, 1:00 PM

Originally Posted by Tahapenes

As such, I don't think it's viable for us to think that we're going to have more than 2 Shadow Resonance on us at any given time and I think it more likely we're going to have to depend on having only a single Shadow Resonance on us.

The video that mmo-champ has, the guy has 3 or 4 on him the whole fight. That's complete immunity.

meditate · 01/18/10, 1:16 PM

What is the BiS gear for a mage who just hit 80 and only has access to heroics and emblems from heroics?

Mantria · 01/18/10, 1:18 PM

I see a lot of people with Glyph of Serpent Sting which increases the duration by 6 secs but if Chimera shot is high up on your shot priority you should be re-applying serpent sting before it comes up so I would think Glyph of Chimera Shot, which reduces CS cool down by 1 sec, would be a better choice. Am I missing something?

Mewan · 01/18/10, 1:26 PM

Thanks

I will try it in tonight's raid

arrowd · 01/18/10, 1:28 PM

Originally Posted by Mantria

I see a lot of people with Glyph of Serpent Sting which increases the duration by 6 secs but if Chimera shot is high up on your shot priority you should be re-applying serpent sting before it comes up so I would think Glyph of Chimera Shot, which reduces CS cool down by 1 sec, would be a better choice. Am I missing something?

Yes, glyph of serpent sting makes chimera shot hit harder b/c there are two more ticks that get calculated into the chimera (serpent) portion. It is pretty much a must have if your are marks. Furthermore, glyph of chimera shot can actually be a dps loss for some hunters because you may or may not be able to actually fire it one second sooner due to your personal latency.

KraxisSingular · 01/18/10, 3:33 PM

Originally Posted by Mantria

I see a lot of people with Glyph of Serpent Sting which increases the duration by 6 secs but if Chimera shot is high up on your shot priority you should be re-applying serpent sting before it comes up so I would think Glyph of Chimera Shot, which reduces CS cool down by 1 sec, would be a better choice. Am I missing something?

I don't know, but this is a question that keeps popping up. Maybe add the answer somewhere visible. I don't know if Har still hangs around, but it would be nice with it somewhere.

Totemmayhem · 01/18/10, 3:37 PM

Originally Posted by Roshey

Have anyone had a look at the Dislodged Foreign object ? it proccs of Stomping healing stream totem (and as looks of it all other totems) and has pretty much 100% procc chance as far as ive noticed today, been able to use it on cooldown which is 45 sec. the high ammount of haste + sp it must be rated pretty high in HEP

Good trinket due to the static haste (232 HEP), but the proc is problematic. Wowhead comments are claiming a 10% proc rate, making it not a resto reliable proc. [Solace of the Defeated] and [Althor's Abacus], both are higher HEP (unless you are willing to spend 15 secs casting dps spells for a 20 sec proc) and far easier for a healer to procure.