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Old 01/20/10, 7:25 PM   #12481
BurnetRhoades
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Originally Posted by Chack View Post
Maybe this will help you if you have problems on OSX:



Appears iDPS requires Java 6 or later.

Badabing, works great now, thanks!

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Old 01/20/10, 7:26 PM   #12482
Relord
 
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Tirion (EU)
Hey,
Atm i have 127 exp-rating --> 25/25 should i add another 10 exp / 10 hit to get 26/26?

Sorry for my bad english

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Old 01/20/10, 7:34 PM   #12483
Visage
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Greymane
I've trolled here for a year or better, and I'm able to find the answer to many of my questions in your library of posts. With that said....

I'm a Destro 'lock mainspec, but my guild has asked I run Demon. Many of the top Demon Warlocks on my server have some insane output. One thing I noticed is they're replacing the Metamorphosis glyph with Quick Decay. I haven't read any opinions on this as it relates to Demon vs. Affliction.

Thanks for your help and time.

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Old 01/20/10, 7:54 PM   #12484
Odas
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Night Elf Druid
 
Eonar
I updated the professions sections. I checked the value of the Tailoring embroidery and Hyperspeed Accelerators and was surprised that they passed the 80 attack power threshold for Leatherworking. Is this commonly accepted?

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Old 01/20/10, 8:30 PM   #12485
kalbear
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Balnazzar
Yes; the LW bonus is fairly mundane on a DPS level for ferals. LW is better as a dual spec bonus given its value to dps and tanking, similar to how good jewelcrafting is.

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Old 01/20/10, 9:19 PM   #12486
Jinivus
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Tauren Paladin
 
Black Dragonflight
And here I was running devo after reading that, thinking it's frostfire.

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Old 01/20/10, 9:41 PM   #12487
Butterrss
 
Human Mage
 
Medivh
I currently have 2 pieces of tier 10 (robe and shoulders) and I'm wondering: Should I wait to use my 3rd piece (helm) until I have all 4 pieces in an attempt to hang onto the tier 9 2 pc bonus for as long as I can? Or should I just equip my 3rd piece?

EDIT: Rawr only shows it as a 42 dps loss which isn't a huge deal, I suppose.

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Old 01/20/10, 11:44 PM   #12488
Raneman
 
Undead Rogue
 
Zul'Jin
I may have missed it but pretty sure I didn't. How has the PPM proc changes effected the Heartpierce's desirability. I just pick it up tonight. Curious If I picked up a solid weapon or just a place holder.

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Old 01/20/10, 11:54 PM   #12489
h2_
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Andorhal
And the DPS value is underestimated on fights with adds you can kill shot more often than once every 15.

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Old 01/21/10, 12:13 AM   #12490
Esarael
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Azralon
Optimal trinket selection

I was wondering what would be the optimal trinket selection for an Arcane Mage.

I suppose [Dislodged Foreign Object] is one of them, but I'm in doubt between [Muradin's Spyglass] and [Reign of the Dead].

Thanks in advance for any meaningful contributions.

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Old 01/21/10, 12:35 AM   #12491
Nephillus
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Illidan
Just some thoughts I want to throw out there from a discussion I had with a guildy today.

We were discussing how good (or in his opinion, bad) the Needle-Encrusted Scorpion trinket is (sorry I don't know how to link it from WoWhead). I had seen it on one of the best geared DK's from Ensidia's armory and glanced over it, but my guildy drew my attention to it more closely and now I'm starting to think that its cabbage.

First of all (according to WoWhead) the proc rate is roughly 10%. However, the proc is only on crits. Assuming most raids I'm in have me sitting comfortably over 40% (sometimes up to 47%) that means only a 4% chance to proc on each hit, to gain 15 seconds of 678 arp...

Compare that to the Mjolnir Runestone from Ulduar which grants 665 arp for 10 seconds with a proc rate of 15% on every melee hit (as well as losing 10 crit from the equip effect.) and I don't see why anyone (let alone someone from Ensidia) would pick NES (<---lol) over MR.

Is there something I'm missing? Or does the extra 5 seconds, 10 crit, and 13 arp make up for the fact that it proc's 11% less often...?

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Old 01/21/10, 12:52 AM   #12492
Bolg
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Mhm, last week my DBW dropped so i decided to go MM (93,3% ArP) - for the first time.
So there's my question...

If i get Piercing Shots with an 8k SteadyShot-Crit and my next Steady-Shot will crit for 6k then my first bleeding-effect will disappear and replaced by the newer (but lower) one?
Or is there something that reminds the damage and add it to the new bleeding-effect?
Because every Crit below the damage of the CS-Crit would be a dmg-loss, am i right?

Example (a)
00.00| 12.000 CS-Crit
00.00| 4.000 Piercing Shots -8 Seconds. [+750]
01.50| 8.000 AiS-Crit
01.50| 2.600 Piercing Shots - 8 Seconds. [+487]
03.00| 6.000 Steady-Crit
03.00| 2.600 Piercing Shots - 8 Seconds. [+375]
04.50| 6.000 Steady-Crit
04.50| 2.600 Piercing Shots - 8 Seconds. [+375]
06.00| 6.000 Steady-Crit
06.00| 2.600 Piercing Shots - 8 Seconds. [+375]
07.50| 6.000 Steady-Crit
07.50| 2.600 Piercing Shots - 8 Seconds. [+375]
= 46.737 dmg.

6 Crits [CS, AiS, 4xSS]: 2.737 effective dmg with Piercing Shots.

Example (b)
00.00| 12.000 CS-Crit
00.00| 4.000 Piercing Shots -8 Seconds.
01.50| 6.000 AiS-non-Crit
03.00| 4.000 Steady-non-Crit
04.50| 4.000 Steady-non-Crit
06.00| 4.000 Steady-non-Crit
07.50| 4.000 Steady-non-Crit
08.00|[+4000]
= 38.000 dmg.

1 Crit [CS] 5 non-Crits: 4.000 effective dmg with Piercing Shots.

Well.. i'm not sure how a "Crit" exactly works, so the non-Crit numbers are fantasy numbers - In which area is the amount of damage that a "Crit" can do?
Would it maybe be better to lower your critrate and stack more ap (or arp until cap) to have higher (non-)Crits and higher dmg with Piercing Shots (high numbers and longer duration of the effect)?
I mean the difference between the overall dmg in my examples is 8.000 dmg - and this only if all of your special-shots crit!

Sorry for my horrible english. Hope you understand my "problem".
Shiq.

Edit:
An example with an "early" and a "late" Crit.

Example (c)
00.00| 12.000 CS-Crit
00.00| 4.000 Piercing Shots -8 Seconds.
01.50| 6.000 AiS-non-Crit
03.00| 4.000 Steady-non-Crit
04.50| 4.000 Steady-non-Crit
06.00| 4.000 Steady-non-Crit
0.750| [+3750]
07.50| 6.000 Steady-Crit
07.50| 2.600 Piercing Shots - 8 Seconds.
07.50| [+375]
= 40.125 dmg.

1 Crit [CS] 4 non-Crits [AiS, SS, SS, SS] 1 Crit [SS]: 4.125 effective dmg with Piercing Shots.

Grmpf, okay - still not better than Example (a), would really help me to know how a crit clearly works.. I even don't know how a non-Crit work (because of the different numbers of non-Crits).
Shiq.

Edit2:
Haha, okay - i forgot about ISS. So everything critting is truly better.. maybe except (!) in the case that the last SS crits and proccs ISS.. but that would be pure luck.
Although it would be nice if someone can explain how Piercing Shots exactly works (like in my examples?) and how a (non-)crit is exactly calculated.
Well, at least i can go to sleep now.

Shiq.

Last edited by Bolg : 01/21/10 at 1:26 AM.

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Old 01/21/10, 12:59 AM   #12493
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Bleeding Hollow
Tiny Abomination in a Jar

Been a long time lurker on the forums. Account is still fresh, excuse me for my bad grammar and/or failure to post correctly.

Been wondering how good [Tiny Abomination in a Jar] is compared to WFS/Herkuml. Heard from guildies and other forum post I've read that the trinket is a tad buggy and nerfed.

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Old 01/21/10, 1:32 AM   #12494
Nnr
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Quick question - for people without Algalon10 trinket, is [Purified Lunar Dust] really worth buying? I mean, currently I'm running with Pandora or Tears mixed with Talisman, and I am quite okay with that and I'm not sure if it's worth dropping ~90-100 Intellect in favor of 150SP and doubtful mp5-on-proc. Is the procrate good enough to consider that?

(oh yeah, I could try Solace but that dropped twice for us - once in normal, once in Heroic, think we're really unfortunate with trinket drops in ToC - same stuff was with Death's Choice)

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Old 01/21/10, 1:55 AM   #12495
woody-shuhalo
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Originally Posted by Bolg View Post
Although it would be nice if someone can explain how Piercing Shots exactly works
Just like Piercing Wounds. Each crit will do the extra bleed damage over it's normal duration, but instead of making multiple stacks, the icon just refreshes. You don't lose any damage by having a "lesser" crit happen while your "greater" crit bleed is still ticking. The value of the bleed damage will change as internal stacks run to duration, but this is normal.

It's perhaps easier to imagine the tool tip saying, "Your Aimed, Steady and Chimera Shot criticals deal an additional 30% damage over 8 seconds."

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