I did last about 4300 dps on patchwerk as survival last time but my talents and rotation was suboptimal as it was my first time playing survival. I'll try to get some numbers up this coming tuesday when we do naxx25 again.
It very much depends on how long you expect fights to be. So far, the real-life testing puts 50/21/0 ahead because fights don't last long enough for Invigoration etc to pay off relative to the DPS lose of AotV.
That said, it's still fairly gear depended and the only correct answer is model both in the spreadsheet - or go try them.
I'm trying out different talent builds atm and was wondering, what people think about this one: 53/13/5
I'm a real fan of Improved Demonic Aegis with the loads of spirit our new Equip provides now. In this build you sacrifice ISB, which is kind of a waste since you can't spam SB but you lose ruin. But Aegis gives a push for all dots so this build could be nice. Anyone could give me some math for this? I'm not good at theorycraft -.-
I am new to being a mage. My mage is 80 right now and I am a pure frost build. I want to be able to have a good build that is good for pve/pvp. In raids my dps doenst seem to be that great. I wanted to know if anyone has a good dps build that can be used for raids and still be used for pvp as well, and also what spell rotations are being used? When im casting now I will use frostbolt and when I see it pop up to shoot off ice lance or fireball I do. i have good dps on sustained casting but some bosses like the ones in nax, my dps stinks because I have to move around so much and start to cast. Any suggestions for this? I am getting geared pretty well, have lots of epics now, I just need to get a good build and casting rotation down. I thought about the 0/53/18 build but have been told that it is good for raiding and not pvp and im looking to do both. Any help/advice would be appreciated. I have read so many posts about different builds and have tried a few of them. Most I read say Frost is better for pvp and pve if doing both, all my points are in my frost tree at the moment.
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