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Old 01/27/10, 1:49 PM   #12766
Morgancee
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Garona
back to talents for a moment

If I am not the main Druid providing Gift to the raid (a boomkin and/or healer usually does it with improved mark), is there any real reason for me to take 2 points in improved mark?

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Old 01/27/10, 1:54 PM   #12767
Ishundra
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Darksorrow (EU)
What talent would you put the points in instead? 2% extra stats is better than any of the alternative options

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Old 01/27/10, 1:56 PM   #12768
kalbear
Bald Bull
 
Tauren Druid
 
Balnazzar
Yes. Improved MotW gives you directly 2% to all stats. That's simply better than any other option available and is quite strong in its own right as far as a talent goes.

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Old 01/27/10, 2:07 PM   #12769
nehcnhoj
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Barthilas
Originally Posted by Healranktwo View Post
Well honestly, there is some reason to whine a little.

There are a couple of bugs with arms right now, one of them being around as long as when Ulduar came out.

1) SD consuming excess rage
2) TfB not proccing every 6 seconds due to server/cilent latency and the timers being so tight
3) 4pc t10

You are right that HS will be used less with 4pc 10, but it won't be as bad as you think. Take note also that 4pc t10 will exemplify the problem with the SD rage bug too, making it even more of a nuisance to use.
Lol and I'm an oceanic player. I supposed it really will not be as bad, since most of the encounters now involve alot of raid damage, extra rage etc. Though I honestly do believe in a saurfangish fight there will be a 30-40% drop in HSing.

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Old 01/27/10, 2:09 PM   #12770
blindxx
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Zul'Jin
dps help

ok so i been having a lot of trouble with rotation and as to when to refresh dots i read what was posted on the first page and have been doing a similar rotation: ff(at beg of fight) then is mf then wrath till lunar eclipse procs then starfire to solar eclipse and repeat also i done a lot of reading about it i have downloaded warthcalc but even still my dps not been reaching its full potential im averaging about 4.8k self buffed and when full raid buff i am barley reaching 5k. please if someone could give me some advise i would appreciate it.
also is it worth keeping my t9 4set bonus until i get the 2set t10 or buy other badges gear that wont affect the set bonus first

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Old 01/27/10, 2:19 PM   #12771
Morgancee
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Garona
Ok, thanks. Did not know how the + 2% attributes worked. Being real dense, Do I have to override someone else's mark on me to take affect or is it base.
If it had worked out that I got the same benefit from someone else's improved mark, I would have taken the two points in feral aggression, but I agree the 2% add is best.

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Old 01/27/10, 2:26 PM   #12772
Defyn
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Ysondre
As long as you have the talent, you get a passive 2% increase to your stats. It doesn't really have anything to do with the MOTW buff.

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Old 01/27/10, 2:56 PM   #12773
Grunge
Don Flamenco
 
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Human Rogue
 
Kor'gall (EU)
Originally Posted by theoriginalmre View Post
For me, the 10-man items up for consideration (for Mut spec) are:
Neck - Precious' Putric Collar
Wrist - Vambraces of the Frost Wyrm Queen
Trinket - Whispering Fanged Skull
Helm - Discarded Bag of Entrails*

*Where the Helm is concerned, I'm looking into switching out the 4-pc set bonus and taking that helm + Cultist's Bloodsoaked Spaulders (from 25man) to see if the DPS can be pushed a bit higher. According to the spreadsheet, it can (though I can't seem to get the 4-pc set bonus to be of any worth it appears).
There's a superior helm available from 25man in the form of [Geistlord's Punishment Sack].

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Old 01/27/10, 2:58 PM   #12774
FearlessSui
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warlock
 
Nordrassil
Is there somewhere to find the stat weight breakdowns for demo and affliction, I know this information was previously in the 3.2 compendium. What I am really looking for is the difference in stat weights between 55_0_16 and 56_0_15 Thanks.

Last edited by FearlessSui : 01/27/10 at 5:16 PM.

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Old 01/27/10, 3:30 PM   #12775
Evilseven
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Priest
 
Kil'Jaeden
Originally Posted by wurmfood View Post
Why not just turn it off? Interface -> Objectives -> Uncheck everything. Go into your quest log and make sure none are tracked. It'll go away.

Otherwise, try this in a macro:
/script WatchFrame:UnregisterAllEvents()
/script WatchFrame.Show = function() end
/script WatchFrame:Hide()

thank you so much!

i had turned everything off in the interface tab, but hadn't thought of making sure nothing was being tracked.

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Old 01/27/10, 3:45 PM   #12776
Valardruid
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Silver Hand
Originally Posted by blindxx View Post
ok so i been having a lot of trouble with rotation and as to when to refresh dots i read what was posted on the first page and have been doing a similar rotation: ff(at beg of fight) then is mf then wrath till lunar eclipse procs then starfire to solar eclipse and repeat also i done a lot of reading about it i have downloaded warthcalc but even still my dps not been reaching its full potential im averaging about 4.8k self buffed and when full raid buff i am barley reaching 5k. please if someone could give me some advise i would appreciate it.
also is it worth keeping my t9 4set bonus until i get the 2set t10 or buy other badges gear that wont affect the set bonus first
http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t66856-moonkin_pve_dps/.
Thanks to Hamlet for composing the TTT article for EJ.

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Old 01/27/10, 4:22 PM   #12777
Rankochan
Glass Joe
 
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Human Death Knight
 
Garithos
Question about 3.3 Various Tanking Spec Viability

Okay first off let me say this is my first time posting on EJ, and so I'm sorry for any noobish mistake i might be making by asking this question, I've been looking at this thread for a while to try and see about the OP getting any updates from what i can see it hasn't been, so if anyone else can answer this for me thank you.

Is Unholy a good tanking spec to run Heroics with and do the occasional Offtanking in older content like ToC 10 and lower or is it just so far behind the other two trees in viability that i should stick with the current spec i am using which is based off the 2 Handed Frost Build in the OP, I'm wearing mainly the t9 232 tanking set with similar levels of equipment for everything else except my weapon which is Quel'delar (My main spec is Unholy DPS so after getting an upgrade last week in ICC 10 man i made it my tanking weapon) and my two trinkets which are the Emblem of Heroism Tanking one (Valor of the First War?) and its copy from brewfest, which by the way interestingly do not share CD's and can be used at the same time.

Thank you and sorry for my noobish-ness, Thanks for making the Death Knight part of this sight so great, I come here every day to try and learn something new everyday and by using other posters suggestions and my knowledge of my own character have improved my playing a death knight tremoundously.

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Old 01/27/10, 4:41 PM   #12778
Grendelle
Glass Joe
 
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Troll Druid
 
Ysondre
Originally Posted by blindxx View Post
ok so i been having a lot of trouble with rotation and as to when to refresh dots i read what was posted on the first page and have been doing a similar rotation: ff(at beg of fight) then is mf then wrath till lunar eclipse procs then starfire to solar eclipse and repeat also i done a lot of reading about it i have downloaded warthcalc but even still my dps not been reaching its full potential im averaging about 4.8k self buffed and when full raid buff i am barley reaching 5k. please if someone could give me some advise i would appreciate it.
also is it worth keeping my t9 4set bonus until i get the 2set t10 or buy other badges gear that wont affect the set bonus first
You can take the at least two points out of moonglow, put the points in either Owlkin Frenzy or Gale winds.

Your spellpower is rather low, your hit is rather high.

Both of your trinkets are low end. (haste procs are nice, but with you already being over haste softcap, your wrath casts will be well under the time of your global cooldown. No matter what, your wrath cast will not be under 1 second)

The tier legs are bad, go with gloves, and try to get some crafted legs with better stats.

As far as the question about tier 10 is concerned, I would go with hands and shoulders first. Use both two piece bonuses (2pc T9/ 2pc T10) until you have all four ( Head, chest, shoulder, hands ). Then you can switch to 4 piece.

Your rotation is somewhat right, but you probably just need practice.

Benchmarks.
-10% hit
-401 haste
-Stack spellpower first
-Stack crit

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Old 01/27/10, 4:58 PM   #12779
FearlessSui
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warlock
 
Nordrassil
Originally Posted by Suggestive View Post
4 spells refresh corruption now. Haunt, Drain Life, Drain Soul, and Shadowbolt. In that context, Warlocomotif has given you the best answer possible.

Thank you after testing this I realized that was occuring I guess I just never noticed it during the fight.

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Old 01/27/10, 4:58 PM   #12780
Nooska
King Hippo
 
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Blood Elf Hunter
 
Argent Dawn (EU)
As to the glyphs;

I haven't been active for about 9 months so I do not have the gear or have gotten back into the spreadsheet usage and the mindset needful but.

Back on the early pages of this thread I did som calculations on Serpent sting glyph vs steady shot glyph (namely that you gain 2 gcd's over 105 secons from the serpent sting glyph) - wouldn't this still hold true in regards to glyph choices - that Serp Sting glyph is not as good as it sounds because the only shot to replace it is steady (as opposed to BW glyph - even with BW not being as goos, fireing it more often *should* provide more dps than 2 steadies worth every 105 seconds, no?

*heads off to continue reading up before deciding whether to go back to raiding before cataclysm or not - still in naxx25 gear*

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