Tank at patchwork died at less than 5% and it canceled my drain soul everytime someone died. With 3 warlocks in the raid, think yourself the rest why patchwork returned to his patrol with 40k HP left.

We didnt know that this bug existed or hasnt been fixed yet. I noticed the cancel of the spell after the third time I tried to channel drain soul (yes, I´m slow).

This thread isn't designed or intended to be the see-all/do-all description of the math behind diminishing returns. It's a FAQ. If readers want to find the parry cap in an easy place, they look to the FAQ. If they want to understand the differences in rates of change between dodge and parry, then there's another thread for that.

Could you provide some examples of the "bad/wrong" information you're referring to?

Okay, really interested in what you have to say. What Bad/Wrong information? That small list below? Really? And Grammatical Errors. Really. Massive number you say. Clearly you're an English Teacher. I don't see it the same way.

That's great. In fact, I linked right to the DW tanking thread ON THIS VERY BOARD. I may personally dismiss it, but I still counted it as viable and not only told people where to get the information, I also (helpfully) provided a link.

I'm sorry. I thought I was writing a tanking FAQ, not a PVP FAQ. Oh wait, I AM. I was using that as an example to explaing what Diminishing Returns are in a laymen's way. You know, something everyone usually has some amount of experience with. If it means that much to you (and is some of this amazing amount of bad information you keep referring to) then I will cheerfully change it for you. Just for you.

Actually, I did link several articles. Not to mention I was in the process of linking more. Its just hard to see the links with the default controls here on these boards. If you would have actually read and looked carefully, you would have realized that.

Really? That's the best you got? Please take your flaming someplace else, okay? kthx

Worked fine. Thanks!

It seems to me that waiting for Explosive shot ticks to end then casting another while under LnL would be better.

Under lock and load...

First ES > 1.5 seconds for GCD with a 1 tick per 2 seconds. That'd be .5 seconds over the GCD.

Where as if you weave shots like Steady or Aimed you'd have

ES > 1.5 sec for GCD > Aimed > Another 1.5 seconds for GCD. The 2 ticks would already be up in the middle of that.

Steady shot would be the same way except more time would pass than another 1.5 if you aren't haste capped.

so far all of this is making sense. i've been able to get decent dps and i'm going to keep reading to see how i can improve my rotations, macros, and other things that'll allow me my maximum dps. this stuff is so freaking sweet!!

That would be very helpfull, and would cut down on the number of questions. Not everyone is level 80, nor do they know the best way to get there...people like, well....me.

If someone with the knowledge could make something like this for DKs, it would be great -
Zodar's Rogue Leveling Tips

Notice that this guy went through the trouble of even laying out HOW to spend you talen points per level - not just saying "follow this tree".

That makes it great for the casual player who doesn't want to "win" WoW, but wants to be decent at his/her class.

It also makes it easy and quick for anyone to answer a n00b question, by simply saying, "go here".

maybe leveling frost was why i liked it so much. but it's true, it's hard to do a lot of dps in an instace. even though your spells cost way less mana, and you may be able to out last some high rolling dps, you still do a bit of damage. as for raiding though, there aren't enough spells that cause damage over time. and you have to be casting in order to make any kind of effect in a raid. i wouldn't mind it though. i have soft spot for a good frost mage.

I think to focus on Int only is not the best way..

I'd be interested in a webstats report of naxxramas or any other 25man raid instance

Take a look at Pitbulls aura module. There is a file called "border.tga" wich contains the texture for buff/debuff borders.

After i get done leveling and know the class i will post a leveling guide.

Hey guys!

So i've been messing around with frost for a while, tried all the rotations and what not usually in blood presence. So today i decided to try unholy presence for a change of pace. I tried first just clicking quickly, getting through all my abilities but found myself having a lot of downtime, so i paced myself and found myself getting lower DPS.

So it has lead me to 2 questions:

1) Blood vs Unholy - which is better for DPSing in raids.

and 2) When in unholy, how do you use all your abilities to maximise DPS.

Thanks

can u upload ur ui please ? (:
im in love with it <3

These are not the WoW forums. Please read past postings and you will find all of the relevant information that you need. There has been far too much garbage being posted in this thread as of late.

Has anyone come to the conclusion as to whether cat is better than raptor for surv?

Thanks, thats very usefull to know!

Hello guys
I am new here - and also fairly new to DeathKnight (used to raid on my 80 rogue).
I just thought i would post some screenies of todays Naxx25 Patch kill. My spec is 21/50/00 and my weapon is Death's Bite. I use the rotation IT - BS - BS - BT - OB - OB - FS until first rune ready - IT - IT - IT - IT - IT. After that its hard to "maintain" a rotation. I priotise IT over FS mostly - but all in all i try to keep it balanced so i dont "waste" any Runic Power. I use Obliterate every time an unholy rune is ready - to get it converted to a death rune asap.
I find myself a skilled DeathKnight - as i have yet to see anyone come near my dps. Before patch i was DW 00/32/39 - but i like this 2h spec more

Keep in mind i died at 6-7%(hateful) - hence my dps could have been a tiny better

4 set piece is nice but nothing spectacular..it can situationally make your executes hit a bit harder thats all it offers (since u r never outta rage in raids)

Gear...u aint terrible but u could be a lot better indeed. I go for all strength gems cause I m alrd at 41.30% crit unbuffed in Battle Stance without any crit gems.

Despite all of the above though I would have to harshly admit that whats the most probable issue is your rotation. I dont have the power to check and analyze your report at the moment to determine where its faulty but I did 3800 dps on my 1st patchwerk raid at 80 with ONLY blue gear with 170 hit raitin and 4 expertise. So doin less than that with decent gear and exp and hit raitin at decent lvls, only tells me that there is somethin in the playstyle needing fex...and plz dont think I am mean...just trying to be rough so I dont hide my honest opinion from you with a sincere intention to only help u question yourself and try to improve

What should our expertise be at? I have the 540+ to defense decent dodge and parry.

Ok on the frost dps subject I have copied one of my guild mates builds and this is before the patch I had just hit 80 and i had only one or two epics one of them was a Titansteel Destroyer and i dont recall the other but I did naxx that day and again this is before the patch and i was up there in the dps and damage charts with one of our guild hunters while I was raid buffed. Now after the patch i have now maybe one or two more epics and yes i do realize that hunters were nerfed but I pass the hunter in dps and damage the link to the build i have is

WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Death Knight -> Talent Calculator

And yet another question that can easily be answered by reading the first post of the FAQ. Could we get that FAQ stickied? Maybe then people will read it before posting. /sigh