Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 862

gillon · 01/29/10, 3:57 PM

Quick question regarding glove enchants: From a mutilate standpoint, is the engineering haste enchant more beneficial than the regular Crusher, 44 AP one?

Tianshaan · 01/29/10, 4:37 PM

Originally Posted by xeonight

Thank you Ewok. To further that question; does Icy Reach then increase HB's radius, or just my reach to the target?

Just your reach to the target. For every talent or ability like this, you look at the tooltip of the spell and add the increased range to the part of the tooltip that says "X Range". HB has a tooltip range of 20 yards, so Icy Reach will make it 30 yards.

Not sure why you would have that talent thought.

ichik · 01/29/10, 4:44 PM

Err. Minimap for Unit Frames? You're doing it wrong, dude. No offence.

Cranberry · 01/29/10, 4:52 PM

Originally Posted by Antpage

I just got the first set bonus from tier 10 which is 12% haste for 5 seconds after Missle Barrage. I noticed that i can get off 3 Arcane Blasts in the 5 seconds, most of the time the Missle Barrage talent has proced by then. So then maybe we should change the attack rotation to AB 3 times or until MB procs then AM. Would this increase DPS versus AB 4 times or until MB procs then AM?

I usually wait until the buff only has a moment left on it before firing off an MBAM. I can't imagine that consuming it with the buff still having 2+ seconds is the proper play, since it will reduce the uptime on Pushing the Limit and be casting a lower-damage spell to boot.

xeonight · 01/29/10, 4:55 PM

Originally Posted by Tianshaan

Just your reach to the target. For every talent or ability like this, you look at the tooltip of the spell and add the increased range to the part of the tooltip that says "X Range". HB has a tooltip range of 20 yards, so Icy Reach will make it 30 yards.

Not sure why you would have that talent thought.

It would be a nice talent if it increased the 'blast radius' of Howling Blast, but since it only increases my reach to the target, it's definitely not such a great talent, I'm currently running a Frost DW Tank spec BTW.

Relcan · 01/29/10, 4:57 PM

At 1400, 100% hard cap armor penetration, does it even matter if you have sunder up on a boss, for your personal DPS?

You should read the thread more, (maybe the 3.3 FAQ before posting) Sunder Armor is always required because it removes armor prior to the armor removed by ArP. Also... ArP does not remove all armor, there is a limit to the amount it can remove. Shattering Throw IS effected by your ArP, meaning you will not get as much effect from it if you are at or near hard cap.

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Has anyone done any significant testing of the tier 10 4 set bonus. Based on information I have read it is pretty much mediocre at best... and somewhat bugged from the sound of it. I'm currently considering just using Tier 10 2 Set, and buying Chest and Gloves with emblems and using crafted legs, considering I can get 264 versions vice 251 tier, and don't need to fight for a token (we have had 1 warrior token drop in 6 Deathbringer kills). I'm sure once we start getting more token drops per week it will be better to get the tier, but I feel like its a bit of a waste to get the tier 10 4 set and get basically no dps increase from 155 more emblems

xeonight · 01/29/10, 4:58 PM

Originally Posted by Cepha

Does this mean that corruption is still not updated with death's embrace? I thought this bug has been fixed long time ago.

This is correct, Death's Embrace acts like a Player Buff so you have to recast corruption when boss health reaches 35% in order to benefit from it.

happycamper1994 · 01/29/10, 5:22 PM

What is the best arcanum enhancement for your head as a lvl 80 assasination rogue?

Ahr12 · 01/29/10, 5:28 PM

Hey Murna and everybody else!

I feel like my DPS is lower than it should be
with 5,2k GS I stay from 4,5k - 6k DPS all after what classes that buffs me with theire talents in raids (DK's, shamans etc)

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Read your thread about rotations and gemming etc I feel like i've gone into every step but it's like my dps is still missing..

Is there any help? Guideing I could get?

Look through it if your kind!

With regards: Bobc�*t, Lvl80, Feral DRUID, Frostwhisper PvP!

Restomagus · 01/29/10, 5:29 PM

this information is much appreciated thank you

medloh · 01/29/10, 5:31 PM

I've been playing around with a spell haste calculator trying to determine a good way to stagger my haste CDs during Lust:

EDIT: Removed link.

Recently picked up several upgrades that took my haste up to 1100. So its past time to start thinking about how to stagger my hasty CDs to not be wasted during Bloodlust. My current set of haste CDs are:

Bloodlust
Icy Veins
Troll Berserking
Speed Potion
Mage T10x2

I have no random haste procs (no trinket or black magic)

So my current thinking is to only pop Icy Veins during Bloodlust with Arcane Power. It would take me very close to the haste cap (1.05 for AB). I like the idea of having the pushback protection for Arcane Power. With the T10x2 bonus I'd go down to 0.94. I don't think losing 0.06 haste is a big deal so I'd probably release MBarr at 4+ stacks during AP-IV-Lust time.

Then I'd pop Berserking as soon as Icy Veins wears off during Lust. Then ideally I'd pop the Speed potion as soon as Berserking wears off.

Is this a good system, or is there a better way to max DPS during lust given the above parameters?

Mezmaron · 01/29/10, 5:35 PM

Since the buffs have now more or less become official in the patch notes, would it be possible to get an update on your dps results (and anything else that would need updating)? I'm really curious as to how it will compare with the other thread that has updated this information already.

Thank you Madlax and Warlocotif for all the work you put into this.

krexig · 01/29/10, 5:42 PM

what you guys think of the 245 trinket set from onyxia? [Shiny Shard of the Flame]
i find it pretty much good and now when i got 60frost emblems im not sure if i should buy the 264 trink....any ideas?

Rankochan · 01/29/10, 6:15 PM

Originally Posted by Neddie

Basically, as an "oh crap" button, Bone Shield is good, but perhaps not as good as Vamp Blood, however on tank swap fights, or fights where you can put up Bone Shield and let the cooldown expire without losing any bones, it really shines since you can chain 2 of them back-to-back.

So essentially your saying that as an Off-Tank Unholy does very well? Thats good, I was curious about that. What are you opinions on Tanking as Unholy in 5-mans compared to the other trees? When I last specced Unholy for tanking it was in 3.1, after 3.2 came out Unholy Blight was changed to its current form in terms of Function, and I stopped tanking as Unholy. Is this still leaving Unholy with AoE threat Issues as well as Avoidance and Mitigation Issues Overall from your perspective?

The reason I ask is because I would love to get better at tanking on my death knight,but I find that AoE fests make my job really hard. I only tank occasionally with my Death Knight as its main specced Unholy DPS and I don't want to be stressed out playing a video game, so I'm sporting only 10 man ToC equivalent gear overall for tanking if that makes a difference as to which way i should go to start gearing up for tanking and which tree i should choose to be an well rounded tank.

Br0kenghost · 01/29/10, 6:50 PM

Sorry to bring this up again, but I'm still not sure if we should be going for out T10 4pc or not. I was just planning on I guess getting the 4piece and playing around with it, and keeping it handy for certain fights. I can't quite decide if having a constant CoH available on bloodqueen is as good as having a PoM bouncing around critting for 12k on first hit. (yes, overhealing mostly.... but the PoM heals dmg faster than a healer can "manually" do it with a flash heal, renew or CoH. I have enough badges for the 4 piece... I'm just debating on whether it's worth it. Any and all constructive criticism is welcome, thanks all =)