i for one would like to thank you for the sheets, there simple yet detailed enough for anything you would need; if rawr ever does rogues correctly im sure you will see alot less people asking to add in things that arent necessary. thanks again for the sheets tho

Yes, i apologize since i'm used to read the enhancment only threads so yea i'm enha, and i also have tried all of the above except for the speed enchant since it seems a waste on static fights, is it worth so much on non static fights
that its actually worth getting ? and even if so, i dont think that will give me the 3-4k dps i am missing, i still need
a better solution, thanks.

hi folks

this is my first post here and i'd like to thank for the great work to make a Hunters life easier
(especially Shandara and Rivkah)


i've got 2 questions:

When thinking about critcap if i wear DBW & Deaths Choice that would be around 19% crit for crit+agi procc using the 65.86% mentioned before this would mean is should try to get under 50% crit unbuffed if i dont want to be overcapped.

Actually i don't have both trinkets but im trying to get them and i've got currently about 58.42% crit unbuffed which would be too much.


Second questions is Hit Hit Hit Spreadsheet is a great gear guide but if i look at all those BiS items i dont see Hit
i've already started to gem Hit but if i get all those crit+Arp items

- i'll have to wear either a hit trinket

- use talent points in Focused Aim

- use hitgems which is a problem since most of the icc items have red sockets with agi bonus


Hit trinket means to loose a trinket which gives great dmg boost
(i know my trinkets suck atm but i will get DBW sooner or later)
Gemming hit results in agi loss and often agi socket bonus loss
And Rivkahs Dps analyzer told me to to anything but not to spend any point in focused aim.

How are you guys planning your gear with only few item still having hit?

I just got Nerub'ar Stalker's Cord and will have to use 2 Hit gems to replace Linked Scourge Vertebrae which means loosing agi.

You are going overbound with this.

Lets list all the things that need to happen for the 65.86% cap to be in effect:

First you need to use Kill Shot (one shot at best every 9 seconds is being capped), MT has to be up, Death's Choice needs to proc and DBW needs to proc Crit. Given the flaky MT uptime, the different ICD of the two trinkets and the 33% chance of the Crit buff... Well, I don't think you should worry too much.
It is a potential loss of value, not a dead given fact every time you fight a boss.

You can start to worry once Explosive Shot gets capped, which isn't impossible at all but overcapping it will be quite slight and only in specific situations. And the solution to that is readily at hand, change Glyph of Explosive Shot to something else. It is already worth it at lower critlevels.

I was curious on everyone's thoughts of 100% passive armor penetration. Meaning 1400 rating.

Have a few choices of ArmPen trinket (MJ Runestone) / DBW / Death's Choice.

I was thinking about going for 100% armpen with the DBW + Death's choice. Just wanted to know what all other hunters think about it or if any have made the move.

My question is about gemming for Agi or AP and the crit cap. Currently I'm mut specced (51/13/7) and gemmed for agi. 25 Man raid buffed I'm ususaly sitting on 56% crit on my tooltip. I've been considering switching my spec to 51/18/2. Would that put my crit% too high? If so should I switch to AP gems ?

Could you please upload this somewhere else than RapisShare, it's impossible for free users to download. i've been trying for the past 2 hours without result:

Unfortunately right now our servers are overloaded and we have no more download slots left for non-members. Of course you can also try again later.

There are very good alternative like gigasize.com which are a lot better.

There is no cap. What you experience is simply that haste raises the value of other stats the more you get. this is true for any stat except ArP. Keep gemming any stat and you will see it's EP going down relative to the other stats. But remember that it's only relative, the dps you gain from gemming remains the same. When youget better gear with more AP/agi/crit etc haste will gain EP again.

in my opinion, not based on scientific reasons, just tested in fight, it feels better to use them sequentially...

f.e:

fs>lvb>6xlb>fs>lvb>5xlb that´s the "unhasted" rotation which i use --> 1221(relic included) + raidbuffs

if i use e.m, i manage to squeeze 7 lbs and 6 lbs in one rotation
after e.m i use berserk, i get one additional lb...
-->in 2 rotations 3 extra lbs...

if i use e.m. and berserk parallel, its again 7lbs and 6lbs but only in one rotation...
-->1 rotation 2 extra lbs...

so in my opinion it´s more beneficial to use them seperately...

please correct me if i´am missing something in my assumption

Read the first post in this thread.

I cant resist, I have to post: "I agree". A player barely alive is still a player who is alive, because he got the heal in time.