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Old 01/30/10, 12:14 PM   #12961
Xaotik
 
Orc Warrior
 
Lightning's Blade (EU)
Armor Penetration Cap 80% or 100%?

I play fury warrior and i have 80% APR, cause i think that with 15% from the sunders and the 5% from fearie fire its enough and its not getting anybetter.

Is that a correct assumption or i go for 100% and sunder's, FF count as more?
I de really appreciat the current mechanics about APR and whats the best to have dps wise.

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Old 01/30/10, 12:44 PM   #12962
Russian
Glass Joe
 
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Orc Warrior
 
Ткач Смерти (EU)
Originally Posted by Xaotik View Post
I play fury warrior and i have 80% APR, cause i think that with 15% from the sunders and the 5% from fearie fire its enough and its not getting anybetter.

Is that a correct assumption or i go for 100% and sunder's, FF count as more?
I de really appreciat the current mechanics about APR and whats the best to have dps wise.
Calculation your ARP begins after overlaying sunders and etc its means sunders and fairy fire does not stuck with your current arp. You need to have 100 % arp (1399 arp rating ) without debuffs

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Old 01/30/10, 12:47 PM   #12963
FeLoNiouS
 
Orc Warrior
 
Illidan
For us noobs.

I've been studying up on the forums here trying to not be terrible at my warrior. Being unsuccessful, I decided to start asking around warriors on my server. I've come to find that many people have same questions as myself but just don't wanna ask.

Now I realize that the banter on these forums is primarily for "seasoned" players, but for some of us who would like to become more adept maybe we could get a few basics cleared up.

A few of my basic questions:
1. I'm a clicker, left hand on the WSAD and right hand on mouse clicking icons. Do you have to be set up with macros to do well with dps?

2. I have taken quite a bit of time reading through these forums for rotations, gear set up, gems etc. I'm aware that my gear is very noob (all emblem stuff) and that being new I've only bought the blue lvl gems as gold is a concern at this point. I've always been arms, just changing to Fury yesterday and wow....my dps is terribad. Pulling 2-3k on bosses in heroics. Question is.....is arms better up to a certain gear point?

3. Last but not least, of the people I've talked to, none that use this site actually know how to use the WoWlogs I see you guys refer to. Honestly I'm still working on figuring out how to use Rawr, but there is enough info on here that I should be able to get that down without further explanation.

Thx for any help or explanations on any of these points. I don't mind getting flamed for "dumb" or "noob" questions, but plz add in a bit of helpful info when you're done.

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Old 01/30/10, 1:00 PM   #12964
tuttan
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Khadgar (EU)
Originally Posted by Iru View Post
All channelling spells suppress the swing timer so no, you can't use auto shot during volley
My autoshot sure fires during volley. Only way to not have it fired is to not target anything.

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Old 01/30/10, 1:29 PM   #12965
Theblueoval
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warrior
 
Frostwolf
Originally Posted by FeLoNiouS View Post
I've been studying up on the forums here trying to not be terrible at my warrior. Being unsuccessful...
Having a very quick look over your character, I do notice that you're far far over hit cap. You currently have 14.3% hit, while only requiring 8% as a fury warrior (5% from gear and the extra 3% from precision). And you're also some way off your exp cap.

I'd suggest moving away from being a clicker, it'll take time and practice, but you'll be rewarded for it.

The arms/fury discussion has been discussed very regularly, and there are people who sit on both sides of the fence. Quite simply it comes down to play style and your ability to master each. Also it should be noted what your usual grouping/raid party needs. As arms, Feral druids will love you to no ends for being a mangle-bot for them, and adding the extra blood frenzy buff for the raid is a very positive thing (if you have no combat rogues).

Wowlogs i can't really help you out on, as I haven't used it to its full extent. Although I have found it a very valuable resource for checking out some of the top dps fury/arms warriors out there, and checking out their damage breakdowns and comparing them to my own.

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Old 01/30/10, 2:06 PM   #12966
Questor
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Earthen Ring
As for Attack Power, since Agility translates directly into AP on the char sheet, I thought using total AP would be a good way to take both into consideration. Crit level is a good point to bring up, however what I noticed happening with my own gear is that better gear makes agility better than straight attack power. When I was raiding Naxx at the beginning of Wrath, AP gems were a couple dps better than Agi gems, but now that I am raiding ICC 25, Agi gems are better.
Amen! Agility does translate better as the Hunter's gear improves. I have found this to be true as well.

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Old 01/30/10, 2:21 PM   #12967
Proppsie
 
Human Death Knight
 
Wildhammer (EU)
expertise question

hey all, im new here so sorry if my question is annoyin, but

im really curious how come expertise is so unimportant in icc, i see lots of top dks with 16-20 exp?
is it really enough, or those guys are eastin expertise food buff?

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Old 01/30/10, 2:41 PM   #12968
klstealth99
 
Human Paladin
 
Anvilmar
specs

yes im wondering i want to go mm right off use pure armor pen is this a good choice?

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Old 01/30/10, 2:51 PM   #12969
Jamdor
 
Undead Mage
 
Thorium Brotherhood
Frost Mage Tiga

I see that your armory shows 2 frost specs, I would like to get the general knowledge of the uses of both, I assume 18/0/53 is for 10 and 25 man. Would the other be pvp, heroics and messing around?

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Old 01/30/10, 3:13 PM   #12970
gannonjf
Piston Honda
 
Worgen Druid
 
Korgath
Hope the new cata trees look better. Sticking 5 more points in this one would make me cry. =P

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Old 01/30/10, 3:27 PM   #12971
Eatadee
Glass Joe
 
Orc Shaman
 
Laughing Skull
hello everyone, ive been reading these boards forever, alot of good information here. i finally broke down and need expert advice. Ive simmed, rawred to my hearts content with what setup i should be running. Ive followed rawrs optimization, and tried to follow the crit cap rules but i feel my dps isnt up to what it should be. I do pull 8.5 or so on standing bosses, my raid setup might be the best for me though.

I guess my question is, how does my current setup look. Am i gemming right and do i have enough hit, or need more hit. Ive exhausted all my options. And yes i have simmed.

thanks alot.

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Old 01/30/10, 3:49 PM   #12972
zerocrack
 
Orc Warrior
 
Kil'Jaeden
Exp and Fury

So i am an orc war and i gain 5 exp when using axe. My quesiton is that let say i use cryptmaker on my mh and dbb on my oh. my oh have 26 exp and my mh only have 21 due to the fact that cryptmaker is a mace. So how does rage generation work in this case? since rage come from oh so does that mean only oh need to be exp capped?

i am sorry if this has been asked before, i tried to find it but didnt see any

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Old 01/30/10, 4:48 PM   #12973
Thogoth
Glass Joe
 
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Orc Warrior
 
Korgath
You want your MH expertise capped because it will be landing your special attacks, and you don't want those being dodged.

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Old 01/30/10, 5:33 PM   #12974
Kaeth
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Death Knight
 
The Maelstrom (EU)
I've posted a little theory about Last Word on the maintankadin forums where they have started a topic on this particular weapon. for those interested, here is the link: Maintankadin • View topic - Last Word and weapon swapping.

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Old 01/30/10, 5:35 PM   #12975
Lorigo
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Rogue
 
Doomhammer (EU)
Is Superior Impact viable for a level 80 Retridin?

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