Hi there. I'm a druid main (impersonating as a priest), but I do have a Disc/Holy Priest that I frequently raid with in ICC. I've always felt, even with similar gear, that my druid was a lot stronger as a healer. After playing tree, it was almost painful to go to my priest because every time we'd wipe on content because of heals, I knew that I'd be able to make up the difference on my druid where I couldn't on my clothie healer.

I started out as holy, but I can came to abhor the spec because I just never had the direct healing to keep up a tank who was taking lots and lots of dmg. Disc was much better at that job (obviously), and I really started to fall in love with instant-cast PW:S. It's almost like giving every raid member tank health pools (except on AOE fights, where it gets eaten away quickly). On AOE fights, it's guaranteed to be eaten up and it's amazingly crazy HPS (through preventing dmg). It's also the fastest, biggest counter to death we have on a short CD. Someone at 2k health can live because the next huge chunk of dmg gets absorbed rather than killing them. Nothing else seems to compare to it (especially on fights like Lady Deathwhisper, where dmg is bursty and unpredictable).

So, all of this build up leads to a request for critiqueing of a Disc/Holy hybrid spec. I'll still run a cookie-cutter Disc spec for dedicated tank healing, but I'm thinking of swapping to this spec for the majority of ICC encounters that I currently run (Marrowgar->Suarfang + Fester and Rotface).

I really wanted to keep CoH in this new spec, because there are fights where I really do appreciate it (Lady Deathwhisper, Stinky & Precious, Festergut) and I wanted the spec to be significantly different so I'd have a reason to swap to it. I lose the choice of Pain Supression and Guardian Spirit, which is a big liability for spots where tanks get hit hard (but I should be in Disc if I'm keeping them alive anyway).

In return, I get a combination of neat things. B&S, GCD shields for all the fights where people need to move faster (Bone Storm, Lady's D&Ds, Spores on Festergut, kiting slimes on Rotface); whenever I'm not the main tank healer (think paladin with beacon on the 2nd tank; love paladins for their niche), I spend most of my time pre-shielding the entire raid. I notice that PW:S used liberally dramatically reduces losing people, and in ICC, most fights can't stand the loss of anyone; DPS or otherwise. I don't get the mana return from deep Disc on the shields, so I guess this could lead to mana problems, but it seems like I already have them in Holy anyway.

Also, I could never stand to use Renew in difficult raiding because I always felt that not topping someone else left them very susceptible to bursty dmg death, but I could see dropping a PW:S on them followed by a glyphed Renew. Once you start getting into a Shield, Renew, Shield, Shield, CoH, Renew, sort of routine, suddenly you become extremely mobile. Whenever your heals aren't needed, you just go into a pre-shielding routine (if raid dmg is expected). The result is you could heal without ever stopping if needed.

Again, my main concern with holy has always been it's lack of strong tank heals, and I would never use this spec as a main tank healer, but I think it has some merit with 3-stack-serendipity-greater-heals. While I couldn't any of the FH/GH supporting talents, you have a bubble-heal every 15s that absorbs a respectable chunk of dmg.

One choice I deliberately made was to drop Improved Inner Fire for Silent Resolve; just made sense for me due to personal playstyle preferences. Anyway, if anyone sees anything I missed, or has a reason why this spec simply fails, please feel free to enlighten me. I'll also post my impressions of how it plays next week when I get back into ICC (we finished my priest's ICC run tonight).

Sorry, old post, but no, I've never had anyone solo heal the tanks during the Festergut fight. We always do three healers in 10 man. One stays on the tank full-time (Paly or Disc priest), one stays on raid as long as there is any gas up in the room (raid healer of any flavor), and the last only helps with raid dmg during the heaviest cloud phase (or whenever the raid healer is hit by the disorient spore). When there is no gas in the room, there is very little raid dmg. All three healers should be spam healing the tanks because at any moment your tank could eat two consecutive hits (possibly parry-hasted) and be dead.

It's a 5m throughput fight, and there's no reason that every healer shouldn't be OOM at the end of those 5m. Same goes for Marrowgar (especially when he was harder). If you minimize raid damage, every healer should be on the tanks in some form outside of Bonestorm. Raid healers shouldn't just stand around not doing anything in the absence of raid damage (or pre-hotting for dmg that will never come).

Ok im a little confused about this bladeward chant. I remember when it first came out it stacked and more often than not i would never get higher than a 2 stack. My guild is arguing with me that it no longer stacks. When i read the actual enchant it nolonger says it stacks. So the question is Does it still stack and whats the max stack?

Hey i was just wondering if i was to get DBW as a combat rogue if i would switch all of my AP gems to arp? and if i was to get tiny abom in a jar if i would do the same? ( both replacing grim toll )

Hey folks, got a question I need answered. Couldn't find the answer, apologize if I missed it.

When is it ok to break the 2pc T9 bonus? Right now I have 2pc T10 and 2pc T9.
Thanks in advance.

wrong thread, delete pls.

First. My English is not excellent. Sorry about. Now the thread. Please, let's look at this rotation (yes rotation) and tell me anythin it could hide in disadventage:

/castsequence reset=5/combat Flame shock(),Stormstrike,FireNova(),Earth shock(),FireNova(),Stormstrike,FireNova(),Earth shock(),Firenova(), Lava lash

Reset:
It will reset at the end of the combat or 5 sec without using the macro.

Talents:
Enhanced FireNova is a need. Shamanistic focus could be an aid.

Glyphs:
Glyph of FireNova neccesary to diminish CD to 3 sec.

Binding Key:
This macro can be bond to a mouse button while Chain/Bolt lightining was bond to another one. Use CL_5 or LB_5 (5 stack Maelstrom weapon).

Others:
Use Ligthining shield, Fire Elemental, Spirit wolves at your own. Trinkets, SR, Berseking if any also at your own. Magma totem always up. Alternatively any fire totem always up.

Well. My big question: How can this to penalize white an yellow damage? Can it be bad enough?

Thanks for your attention and my best regards.

First. My English is not excellent. Sorry about. Now the thread. Please, let's look at this rotation (yes rotation) and tell me anythin it could hide in disadventage:

/castsequence reset=5/combat Flame shock(),[Lava blast perhaps?],Stormstrike,FireNova(),Earth shock(),FireNova(),Stormstrike,FireNova(),Earth shock(),Firenova(), Lava lash

Reset:
It will reset at the end of the combat or 5 sec without using the macro.

Talents:
Enhanced FireNova is a need. Shamanistic focus could be an aid.

Glyphs:
Glyph of FireNova neccesary to diminish CD to 3 sec.

Binding Key:
This macro can be bond to a mouse button while Chain/Bolt lightining was bond to another one. Use CL_5 or LB_5 (5 stack Maelstrom weapon).

Others:
Use Ligthining shield, Fire Elemental, Spirit wolves at your own. Trinkets, SR, Berseking if any also at your own. Magma totem always up. Alternatively any fire totem always up.

Well. My big question: How can this to penalize white an yellow damage? Can it be bad enough?

Thanks for your attention and my best regards.

Do your own APE calculations. The approximate APE value of the set bonuses are posted in OP or can be found in the thread. It depends on what you are replacing your 2pt9 with.

I had taken a 2 month break, and need to do some catching up. Im particular lost with the current ICC itemization.

I recently just got my 1st (Protector's Mark of Sanctification) and not sure what should I replace 1st.

Here is the post that I was able to find, but no confirmation if its correct or not. Can anyone confirm that this is true or not? Thanks.

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"Keeping 2 piece T9 as long as possible (arguably even if you have all 4 T10) is the preferred method.

Keep these in mind when making your choices:

T9 pants and helm are the best itemized pieces. Keeping these as your 2 piece would be best.

T10 pants are the WORST itemized piece. You're going to want an off piece from ICC 10 or 25 to fill this when it's time to replace it.

So that leave with getting a combo of T10 shoulders/gloves/che​st first. The hit rating on T9 chest and T10 gloves will make the difference on which ones you pick."

------------------- Someone else also posted;

"Best in slot setup (for marks at least) is 4pc tier 10 with Leggings of Northern Lights, but don't want to break your 2pc T9 until you've got your 4 T10, so just keep that in mind."

I would probably pick up the T10 chest first, but since im reppin SV as well as marks im not sure.

Thanks.

Hi, would Executioner be better than Berserking if my current armpen tacking is somewhere btw 1200~1250? thanks for advice.