I know what you mean as we sometimes get a similar effect on Aggramar EU. It can be quite annoying when you want to be constantly nuking Putricide or Rotface and your rotation gets messed up with Quartz still showing you as casting AB when you know it's already finished! Haven't discovered a miracle cure for it. Just pray to the Hamsterwheel Gods @ Blizzard to pedal faster!

Thanks very much for your advice. I have the Libram of Three Truths and I already seven macros that I've recommended. I will try to follow what I suggest, changing up the Libram of Three Truths with Valiance, because when I find it hard to keep up the 5 stack, while changing targets. Thanks again and hello

Mutilate isn't that difficult a rotation to grasp, but as with any rotation it does take some getting used to. Once you've played it more, you'll find your numbers steadily increasing. That said, there are some simple tips I can provide to help, I believe.

First, instead of wasting CPs on a Rupture, try opening up with a Garrote. It will cost you less DPS, and provide the bleed earlier. The better option, of course, is to have someone else provide the bleed, but beggars can't be choosers.

Next, instead of pooling your energy before an Envenom, try to Envenom whenever your previous Envenom buff wears off (or as soon as possible thereafter). Your goal is to maximize the uptime on that buff, since it provides a nice chunk of extra Instant Poison procs. Poisons do a tremendous amount of damage as Mut, so the goal is actually to help that as much as possible.

Lastly, with regards to Combat and ArP, you need to recall that ArP is one of those stats where the more of it you have, the better it is. This is why people stack it all the way up to the cap. Even 100 DPS gain, as you were showing on your sheet, is not a small gain. It's essentially one item upgrade, and you're getting that just from regemming!

It hasn't been stated which of the two specs (GoDD,GoD) is better. Now it can either mean that they are same and its up to personal preference, or since GoDD seems way simpler that GoD is better yet more difficult. So clarify please.

Also, I have come upon several threads where people say ArP is better than Str at 5000+AP. Your stats worth table says different. So is that what I read rubbish or is there any truth to it.

Frost Breath is ofcourse partial resistable... the 3 Piece Ulduar Frost Resist gear, will help your tanks ALOT!

I'm looking for items that are not part of the GCD that I can add to my macro.
After each time I shoot a shot, I would like to add to that macro all non-GCD shots
I know that Hand-Mounted Pyro Rocket and silence shot can be added as they are not part of the GCD.
Are there additional MM hunter shots that can be added?

While I don't claim it would be easy to model expertise, I believe you would still be able to come up with a somewhat accurate model, based on what Amroo is suggesting.

We could probably agree that dodged melee swings do not incur a penalty to your rotation, as it does not desync runes or push back your GCD.

For rune attacks, you could model the chance of having a 'catastrophic' event, or string of dodges, as ((chance to be dodged)/100)^n, where n is the minimum number of successive dodges required in order to push back your rotation by one or more GCDs. Additionally, for PS/BS, you could incur the additional penalty of desyncing your runes by taking multiplying your chance of a 'catastrophic' event by the percentage of attacks that are your BS/PS, and then doubling the GCD penalty to account for the time required to resync the runes.

This method may not be 100% accurate, but it should at least help give a better insight onto how expertise might affect one's rotation. Additionally, we can see here why expertise would have a diminished value near the cap, as your chances of receiving a string of dodges decreases exponentially.

edit: not sure how the simulator models expertise, or if this is already implemented

GoDD and GoD are pretty close, it really depends on the specific fight which one is actually better. GoDD is not really simpler with the exception of the fact that, with GoD, you have to make sure to get a pest off before your diseases fall off otherwise the whole benefit of GoD is wasted.

As far as ArP goes it does become better then Str at a point, however that point is not a specific amount of AP. When it happens is based very heavily on the gear you have. The only way to accurately determine if Arp is better then Str for you is to run a sim with your gear.

This would probably be a valid argument, would the UB stack. Unholy blight just refreshes itself, therefore the stated 10% does not apply precisely as the morbiditys 5% per point. There are plenty of situtuations where you chain DCs in a row, where the UB will just refresh the duration, but wont lead to a direct dps gain as the morbidity would.

If one should compare all the crafting proffessions out there and follow the 1 haste>2 ap rule that according to sim has been true since the beginning of ToGC then one would see that there are only 3 proffessions that can give haste:

Blacksmithing - 2 extra socets = 40 of a stat (most likely haste).
Jewelcrafting - 3 extra gems with 34 of a stat instead of 20. 3*(34-20)=42 (haste). It also goes very well with the current bis chest, because when you add a 34 expertise gem you get exactly 140 expertise not wasting stats. But that is just a minor detail, since the list is most likely about to change drastically due to the discoveries made about the crit cap.
Engineering - without counting in the cloak enchant, since haste from enchanting is clearly better and the boots enchant since 12 hit/12 crit is most likely better in bis gear there's still the gloves enchant which is on use and gives 340 haste for 12 seconds every 1 minute, averaging to 340*12/60=68. Also it has a great synergy with our 2 piece set bonus.

Knowing that, let's say that all JC gems and BS socets will be used for extra haste.

Blacksmithing gives 40 haste.

Jewelcrafting gives 42 haste.

Engineering gives 68 haste (and can be used with shamantistic rage every time it's up).

So from that, even though the difference between JC and BS is really minor, I'd say that the 2 best proffessions are engineering and jewelcrafting. Feel free to correct me. I'm not sure though weather and how much choosing these proffessions over 2 static 80 ap ones would change the bis list, but I just wanted to throw my ideas out there since the discussion started drifting towards really maximising dps. Also most of us probably won't be willing to pay for a race change to add a couple of dps so I'll keep my thoughts about blood fury vs berserking to myself at this point.

Hello so i am currently in a 25 man raiding guild and in our raids i can usually pull sround 8k dps in 90% of the fights. I have my rotation down pretty well but now i am seeing a lack of dps in one fight in particular. In the professor putricide encounter my dps falls to about 5k but in other moving fights it dosen't drop so significantly. I know that most people will see a dps decrease in this fight due to target swapping and what not but i have been trying to increase my dps and im getting no where. i have tried switching my roations, using diff totems, relics, and diff buffs. Im just curious if anyone has any tips that they use or do you change your rotation? I have been yelled at before for posting stupid questions but im really stumped here and am hoping so get a better idea of how to fix this. im not looking for any easy answer but just not sure what else to do.

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