Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 932

Arril · 02/20/10, 8:29 PM

What burns me is that even with a Disc priest in my regular 10-man and the "overpowered" Incanter's Absorption as it is today, I am still not necessarily leading the damage meters. On Festergut I am usually #2, behind a rogue on that fight and several other dps are close enough that it's a decent balance.

I question the necessity of this change.

SilverDragonWOHS · 02/20/10, 9:56 PM

Hi, first time poster here so be gentle lol.

I have a gear question, may sound a bit dumb but I'm new to high end raiding and all this min/maxing so I figured I'd ask.

Is it worth equipping Blade-Scored Carapace () over Gendarme's Cuirass ([Gendarme's Cuirass]) to pick up the extra bit of haste and drop some of the wasted hit?

I'd loose a touch of strength and crit but with the Tier 10 two piece and Bryntroll the Bone Arbiter equipped the haste is kind of appealing and I'd only have to use either two str/hit hybrid gems or one hit enchant to make up for the little bit of hit I would need to compensate.

Here's my armory: The World of Warcraft Armory - Cadenbrie @ Terokkar - Profile

Note I have my tier ten four piece, just haven't equipped it yet.

Thanks for your time and my apologies if this falls into the "dumb" questions category.

Breimann · 02/20/10, 10:23 PM

Heart Strike. I see my friend critting with it for 11-12k. His gearscore isn't much higher than mine, and yet the highest crit I've seen with it is around 7.5k

My rotation is IT>PS>HS>HS>DS (glyphed)>DC (RP dump) which I believe I got from these forums. Am I doing something wrong here? Or does 150 gear points really make that much of a difference?

Doombad · 02/21/10, 12:39 AM

What about picking up T10 gloves and [Plaguebringer's Stained Pants] for a 277 heroic set. This may be a better option.

Ayersrock · 02/21/10, 12:45 AM

So with the new patch notes i was thinking subtlety would be good for raids. and i was working on a spec for when it goes live. here is what i came up with if anybody wants to give there suggestions on what they would change.
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

Devloc · 02/21/10, 1:42 AM

150 gear points makes absolutely no difference, because 150 gear points means absolutely nothing with the information you provided. Maybe you're wearing PvP gear. Maybe you have high ilvl trinkets, like heroic Tiny Abom in a Jar, and he has regular Death's Verdict in the same slot - he would have a much lower Gearscore, but a far, FAR superior trinket.

The only thing I can tell that you're doing wrong so far is using gearscore as a comparison.

Tofuu · 02/21/10, 1:49 AM

deleted for stupidity, please remove

wazuke · 02/21/10, 1:54 AM

Armor pen hardcap is 1400 so 1222 gives you 87%

GotlandsUgglan · 02/21/10, 2:59 AM

Regarding the discussion about fixing Moonkins. Yes we all think that we are in a bad place design wise for moonkins since we are hitting soft caps for haste and crits. But Blizzards says that we will not be fixed until the next expansion. However i dont think moonkins are top prio at the moment to be buffed dps wise.

When people are getting bettter gear and since we dont scale very well then perhaps there are cause to buff us but looking at the charts from WoL i dont think we are in need for a buff. But if we should would not it be easiest to change our idol to give spellpower instead of crit?

ruckly · 02/21/10, 3:14 AM

I bet in Cataclysm they will put a new finisher at the end of the subtlety line with a stackable dot debuff that amplifies the affect of hemmorage(possibly turning it into a life leech effect).

Lustmordt · 02/21/10, 4:41 AM

I went ahead and bought Herkuml War Token because I too was near the bottom of the loot ladder in my guild when it comes to trinkets. The haste isn't that great, but the constant AP stack is a vast improvement over what I originally had (Mirror of Truth). In fact, the spreadsheet was putting HWT at around a 300 DPS gain overall for my gear setup over what I had. Full ramp up doesn't take longer than 10 or 15 seconds with a normal rotation, however there is always the risk of losing the stacks in a moving intensive fight.

Another thing to consider is that HWT can pull double duty in case you have to switch to Fury for your guild. While haste isn't the best stat for Fury either, it sure beats out using a hit trinket.

My philosophy has always been that I wouldn't wait on drops if I had other options readily available at the time. If Herkuml War Token is a DPS gain for you, then you'd be doing yourself and your guild a disservice by waiting on a drop that may not even show itself for weeks at a time.

Lightyy · 02/21/10, 6:51 AM

The best tank on Lich10 is feral, try to use him.

Lightyy · 02/21/10, 6:54 AM

Originally Posted by Silly_Syra

For extra grid icons in the center you're going to want Grid Indicator Icon Bar. It hasn't been updated recently but it works well for me currently.

Another way to get extra icons on grid is via GridIndicatorCornerIcons or GridIndicatorSideIcons.
However, the Corner/Side Icon mods don't seem to display the cooldown swirl from Grid Cooldown Text so I don't find them very useful.

Yay thx, im using Corner and Side Icons with HoT tracking ^^ But thx, i think this addon is what i need

Mrteeth · 02/21/10, 7:44 AM

Hi everybody.
I've been scanning some forums now, for the purpose of getting some more tricks to maximize my DPS. But theres still something i didn't find yet, and thats where i'm most curious in. My Question now is, how do you think about binding heroic strike to Bloodthirst and Wirlwind. Im asking this because i find myself spamming the HS button, nearly 100% of the fight. So i know now, that the drawback would be, that i might get critically low on rage, if i do so, but some MAYBE nice improvement will be, that i can better spam BT and WW buttons, to decrease the delay between my GCD-launchers even more.
I would really appreciate other hints, that m8 improve my DPS, or help me put of the HS-spaming-thing

Shiyori · 02/21/10, 9:47 AM

Could anyone let me know how DMC:Greatness measures up in terms of Arms trinkets?

I'm not sure if I should invest the gold in it as there are several other choices for trinkets without ever entering a raid (NES, Banner of Victory, Mirror of Truth..)

I haven't dinged 80 yet, but if DMC actually lands ahead of the others and would be taking up one of my two slots until I managed to get ahold of Whispering Fanged Skull/Death's Choice/etc, I'd like to know so I could start looking for a cheap one.