Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 968

Hardluck · 03/07/10, 3:42 PM

Hey guys, tried to search, but couldn't find it, though I am sure it has been asked before. All other things being equal, I have a 264 Bryntroll and a 264 Cryptmaker and I am human. Which should I main hand? Fury spec obviously. I can get expertise over the cap with either weapon mainhand fairly easily.

Is there a quick answer? The proc on Bryntroll makes this a tough one for me.

ParaffinumLiquidum · 03/07/10, 3:44 PM

Hello. I am currently leveling up a disc priest (lvl 72 atm) and would like to ask some questions:

Haste
The minimum of haste should be 10% and the maximum 50% (the point were your spells become instant casts).
A good average would be 30%. Shall I build up my manapool first, or also the minimum of haste? I've noticed that
every point of haste makes healing much more easier and comfortable.

Power Infusion
I've seen builds without this talent, but it seems very important to me. What do you think about this talent?

Improved Renew VS Divine Fury
There are 57 points spend for my disc tree. I've got 5 points in Holy Spezialisation, 3 points are saved for
Inspiration, makes 6 points left to reach Inspiration. Shall I spend more points in Improved Renew or
in Divine Fury?

Some people hold that's not worth to improve renew, because it's non of the main spells for a disc priest.
Others are of the opinion that's not worth to set points in Divine Fury because Greater Heal is non of the disc
priests main spells too. But wouldn't it be nice to cast a faster Greater Heal while Borrowed Time is aktive?
Especial for a fresh Lvl 80 priest with a low amount of haste?

This would be my aimed build:
http://de.wowhead.co...ffRtzxxc:mbAzMV

Healing a Group
I would like to get some tips in healing a group >.<

Jonsana666 · 03/07/10, 3:48 PM

Have anyone tested Tiny Abomination in a Jar and is it any good to a DK?

Hasted · 03/07/10, 5:16 PM

Excuse me here not to familiar with Holy Pally's in general. Just picked up mine again and started gearing him up running ICC 10 etc. From the first page here it seems I should be using rawr. But from my general knowledge Holy Light builds ignore socket bonuses due to most of our healing going into overhealing and just stacking pure intell but rawr rates items higher by picking up socket bonuses for example t10 helm recommends 12+10 int over 20 int should I just ignore what I would assume to be best or just go with rawr?

123name · 03/07/10, 5:34 PM

Thanks for putting the information together I know it takes alot of work...

RuuddieBoy · 03/07/10, 9:37 PM

Guys, I couldn't really find any BiS itemlists for 10 man ICC. Maybe they are spread somewhere through this topic but I can't find them properly.

I'm a protadin that wants to retri a bit around as well. I understand that Armor Penetration isn't a top stat for ret paladins, because most of our attacks are spells.

Too bad though, quite some plate items in ICC10 contain ARP. So I wonder what you do for these items; pick the leather versions of them instead or just stick with the ARP items.

I'm talking about these two items in particular:
Flesh-Shaper's Gurney Strap
Bone Drake's Enameled Boots
Today I got a leather belt noone needed: Soulthief's Braided Belt and I thought maybe it actually would be better than the plate belt I linked.

So what do you guys usually do? Just go for leather even though it has less AP, or stick to the plate with relatively useless ARP?

drayack · 03/07/10, 11:21 PM

The World of Warcraft Armory theres my amory the spreadheet only has alliance gear and when i change the name to what i wear it clears all stats what am i doin wrong

Redcape · 03/07/10, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by RuuddieBoy

Guys, I couldn't really find any BiS itemlists for 10 man ICC. Maybe they are spread somewhere through this topic but I can't find them properly.

You can build a plate set with zero arpen if you want to. There is a plate belt with exp/crit if you need exp, you can buy the badge plate belt or badge leather belt (both are quite good). Armory me if you want, I am wearing basically that set I described. I just got the Arthas 2h tonight, so I swapped out my Oxheart and my crit/haste neck for Warmace and a crit/exp neck.

I do use the crafted leather boots which are amazing if you need the exp, if you don't want to drop the 10 grand then the boots your linked are probably your best choice. Using my set as a base the only ways to improve it without hardmodes is to buy the badge cloak and swap out expertise somewhere else and buy the badge chest. Both have arpen, but both are superior just by being higher ilvl.

Synaxe · 03/08/10, 1:35 AM

Has there been any discussion whether or not DK's who are on the crit heavy side (35+% unbuffed) benefit more from dropping the normal 2 points in Dark Conviction, and adding to Morbidity? Or is that always going to be a DPS loss no matter how high your crit rating is?

mebizzle · 03/08/10, 1:46 AM

Originally Posted by Synaxe

Has there been any discussion whether or not DK's who are on the crit heavy side (35+% unbuffed) benefit more from dropping the normal 2 points in Dark Conviction, and adding to Morbidity? Or is that always going to be a DPS loss no matter how high your crit rating is?

Talking with pure anecdotal evidence, I think it's worth it personally, I've been running 12/0/59 for a while now and I like the DC damage and DnD cooldown reduction more than 2% crit, but YMMV.

Stress · 03/08/10, 1:57 AM

Tainted Twig of Nordrassil needs to be added back to spreadsheet, looks like it was taken off in the (i) addition.

Emidi · 03/08/10, 2:24 AM

BiS-update would be great.

Tehalbino · 03/08/10, 3:06 AM

Originally Posted by mulinexman

Hi there,

how can this be:

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9634/hunterdps.gif

Obviously I am over the hit cap but stil the spreadsheet assumes hit to give me the highest DPS gain.

What am I doing wrong?

Nothing. Its the value given based on the gear you are currently wearing.
You can think of it as how much it would give you assuming you needed the hit [which wouldn't technically be 100% accurate], but hopefully you see the picture. (Hit will always give you the highest dps gain)

Its a Overview/Summary, don't confuse it with some form of stat planner.

Originally Posted by Dch48

The current version is giving the 9% buff to Steady Shot in Ferocious Inspiration in place of the 9% to Arcane. It has been confirmed that it should be in addition to the Arcane buff.

Originally Posted by Stress

Tainted Twig of Nordrassil needs to be added back to spreadsheet, looks like it was taken off in the (i) addition.

^this

Also would be great to add the new PvP items as well if possible

Nikodemus · 03/08/10, 3:16 AM

Good morning.
I'm currently still progressing in normal modes on 10 and 25 man and have a quick question regarding the normal 10 man drops versus the frost badge rewards. Specifically in regards to two certain drops and their frost counterparts.

On one hand I've aquired the "Blade-Scored Carapace" but will also soon have badges to pick up "Castle Breaker's Battleplate". The latter one seems to have a bigger budget but replaces the nice haste with icky arp.

I have the same issue with "Saronite Gargoyle Cloak" which has better stats (crit, haste) but a somewhat lower budget than
"Might of the Ocean Serpent", that gives me more icky arp, and has the audacity to give me more expertise when I'm allready above the cap.

So far I'm thinking that the 264 chest is a nice tradeup with the small str and crit gain making up the loss of haste for arp,
while the 264 cloak is just a poor choice compared to the one I am currently sporting. I'm just looking for a quick input, thanks!

Tunedbeats · 03/08/10, 3:36 AM

There's a pretty big difference between an excel sheet and a website. Ofcourse it's possible, but i suppose it would require reprogramming everything that the sheet offers.