Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 973

CedricDur · 03/10/10, 3:01 AM

Originally Posted by Airraid

Honestly, I don’t think it's possible. Your best bet is to look at the bosses that drop them:

Okay, that's a clear and concise answer, thanks

Not being someone who raided back in vanilla and very little in TBC I really don't have much of an idea regarding the difficulty and strategies of each boss, but it's clear pugingwill be the way to go if I really want it.

Thanks again.

ali- · 03/10/10, 3:11 AM

Thanks for your response. Can I ask how you are generating your scale factors? The spreadsheet I'm using shows you as having different scale factors with your current gear set taken from the armory so I'm wondering if my scale factors are wrong. However, using the info you provided with the scale factors I have for my current gear generates the following results:

SP = 1
Crit = 0.62
Haste = 0.74

Tailoring: 295*15/45*1 (cloak/lightweave) + 28*1 (gloves) = 126.33
Engineering: 27*1 (cloak) + 340*12/60*0.74 (gloves/hyperspeed) + 24*0.62 = 92.2

This assumes that both lightweave and hyperspeed accelerators always proc/are triggered off c/d. Does that look right?

Yijiao · 03/10/10, 3:50 AM

Ok, so, we got our first heroic trauma today, and sadly, not a single healer took it so I got it for offspec.

I am unsure about the overall value of the weapon in 25s since I cannot viably test it outside of a raid.

I was curious to see if anyone had done some work involving the weapon? Currently, I am using a t9 setup with about 33-35% raid buffed crit and just enough haste to be capped with raid buffs. I have mostly a crit/haste setup to try to take advantage of the 4pc t9.

Is it great? Only on certain fights? I have a regular dying light, but I figured that this was likely lots better paired with spindle.

irishink · 03/10/10, 4:06 AM

I normally roll a ranged DPS toon that I find works best to use a wide angle view. I have recently made a Dk to learn how to tank on. My ? is what is the best camera set-up? Is it better to be up close and personal with the targets, or should I stick with the wide view so I can watch all the actions of the group? I know it may be an odd ?, but it's completely new to me and I would like to gather as much info b4 I actually try tanking.

Emidi · 03/10/10, 4:10 AM

The engineering-part is fine.
Lightweave has a proc chance from 35%, an uptime from 15 sec and an icd from 45 sec.
To proc it u need something between 3 gcd's and 3 sb's.
I think 4 sec is a good average time here, not sure.

so: 295*15/64 ~ 69 sp.

Chuckling · 03/10/10, 4:39 AM

I have Trauma hc, and I love it, ofc it works best in 25mans, on heavy raid dmg fights.
Here is the one of our logs for BQL, which as you know is a fight with heave raid dmg all the time.
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

Im using T10 4set, and im on the haste cap.
Hope this helped.

grofmontek · 03/10/10, 4:59 AM

Can anyone please confirm or denie if survival hunter is able to interrupt add in frostmourne on LK at phase 3??
I was playing with mm and interrupt that add with silencing shot.
Its strange that they made mechanic only for MM and BM but not for Survival:

shan1212 · 03/10/10, 6:15 AM

hi guys

i was wondering which weapon is better out of Heroic Bryntoll and Shadow's edge

i know from Consider's stat weights and BiS list that Heroic Bryntoll is the worst 277 weapon

but how is it compared to shadow's edge?

thx for any inputs

Bustagrove · 03/10/10, 8:20 AM

Seems good to me.
Ive seen the holydins getting crazy HPS on that fight. I will get a WMO if i remember. 60k THPS and Mine is Like closer to 30k THPS but the totle healing done is around the same.
Its abit weird why that is.

(Sheild dropped for me first ever Thorim hardmode kill, I have never replaced it!)

Thanks for the help and things guys been a long time reader of this post

ali- · 03/10/10, 9:21 AM

I'm not sure I understand where you're getting the 64 value from. If lightweave has an ICD of 45s and you're giving an average of 4s between ICD and proc then wouldn't the sum be:

295*15/49 ~ 90.31?

Also, can you recommend a method to generating my scale factors? Not sure if what I am using is reliable.

- Edit -

Ahh, is the 64 value from the sum of ICD + Proc time + time until proc after ICD?

foopeemoa · 03/10/10, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by Caernarvon

Is Heroic Fury really worth it for Fury in PvE? I can't think of many times in ICC where it would be useful.

It is useful on a lot of fights, especially any fight with adds or movement. I can't imagine doing Putricide without it. Rage isn't an issue at this level of gear/content, so realistically the only other place to spend that extra point would be to get 5/5 Commanding Presence instead of 4/5 (if you are doing 3/3 Imp Cleave).

tylerkillian · 03/10/10, 10:32 AM

Does anyone know the drop rate on DBW? Saw it drop for the first time last night after our 9th kill, and it went to an unholy DK. Just curious if I should rethink my gear set up or hold out for it to drop again.

rocco1015 · 03/10/10, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Caernarvon

Is Heroic Fury really worth it for Fury in PvE? I can't think of many times in ICC where it would be useful. Wouldn't the point be better spent somewhere else, like in Imp. Bloodrage or Imp. Berserker Rage? Or alternatively, if your raid setup needs Booming Voice/Commanding Presence, you could get 2/2 and 5/5 respectively and drop Heroic Fury to keep 3/3 in Imp. Cleave. I just don't see the point in wasting a talent point in Heroic Fury when it doesn't seem to do much.

Far from a "wasted" talent point, Heroic Fury is terribly useful on (but not limited to) the following fights:

Deathwhisper (quick intercepts between dps'ing adds and dps'ing the mana shield)
Putricide (between oozes/clouds and Professor)
Dreamwalker (quick transitions between add groups)
Bloodprinces (intercepting after Empowered Shock Vortexes)
LK (between LK/various adds throughout encounter)

Vuenf · 03/10/10, 10:55 AM

it´s 20%

stiq · 03/10/10, 11:10 AM

does anyone know the internal cooldown of berserking (if it in fact has one) and where I can find this sort of information? I've been googling all morning and can't find anything more than random forum posts saying there isn't an internal CD on berserking.