Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 993

fdkobler · 03/19/10, 11:56 AM

Ok I've been reading through these postings and I'm findings conflicting answers about whether or not mutilate uses envenom or not. Please help by clarification on whether its used or not and if so when do I use it in my rotation. Thanks!

suneer · 03/19/10, 12:30 PM

After i played my hunter for a while, i was wondering about Arpen.

From what i know:

Boss Armor: 10653
Sunder Armor: -20% = -2130.6
Feary Fire: -5% = - 426.12

I found one formula from GC in a Blue Post:

If (level<60)
C=400+85*targetlevel
Else
C=400+85*targetlevel+4.5*85*(targetlevel-59);

For a level 80 target, C=15232.5. For a level 83, C=16635.

The cap for Armor Penetration then is: (armor + C)/3.

If i use 15232,5 i get 315 Armor left same as the Spreadsheet, but if i use 16635 (Boss LvL) i get - Armor that should not be possible.

Any Change made since GC Blue Post to Arpen Calculation ?

twobits · 03/19/10, 1:13 PM

I am currently at 820 arpen with 29 exp rating. My EP values for both are 2.296 and 2.3 respectively. When I switch out 1 piece of gear and drop to around 19 exp (roughly 2% chance to be dodged) I gain roughly 80 arpen and I increase my dps by 50. I hate being dodged/parried in a fight so I currently use the gear that puts me over the exp cap, but it bugs me that I could be doing more dps theoretically. Any suggestions?

Illyanna · 03/19/10, 1:20 PM

Long time reader, first time poster.

Question on gear. You can see my armory, I'm debating upgrading my belt from heroic Icehowl Cinch to the Belt of Omission (Frost Badge Gear). I raid 10 mans as Destro, 25s as Demo, rDPS spec. Not sure if the tradeoff will be a DPS boost, or loss. I tried theorycrafting and found that it is best left to people who are more inclined to math. Yes, I'm upgrading my trinket and wand as we get further into ICC25, the belt is currently in question.

Any response that is constructive is appreciated, thank you in advance.

Xcuse · 03/19/10, 1:55 PM

Originally Posted by twobits

I am currently at 820 arpen with 29 exp rating. My EP values for both are 2.296 and 2.3 respectively. When I switch out 1 piece of gear and drop to around 19 exp (roughly 2% chance to be dodged) I gain roughly 80 arpen and I increase my dps by 50. I hate being dodged/parried in a fight so I currently use the gear that puts me over the exp cap, but it bugs me that I could be doing more dps theoretically. Any suggestions?

Activate the option of suggesting Expertise gems (does not reckon for overcapping) and re-check your gems. With this option enabled with around the same numbers as you I usually see the spreadsheet suggesting me Accurate (10 exp - 10 hit) gems in yellow sockets. Should at least get you a bit closer to the expertise cap.

... unless you already have that active. If that's the case, just go for the highest possible dps possible to be honest - your finishers can't be dodged as combat anyways, while a dodged SS is only going to be slightly troublesome if you're bursting your cooldowns as otherwhise you shouldn't energy-cap during a fight.

obatem · 03/19/10, 3:43 PM

Been looking around and cant find it and im wondering if anyone has a BiS list for Heroic 10 and Normal 25? I'm sure most of the people on these forums are banging out heroic versions of 10 and 25 ICC but our guild is still slopping through 25 normal (were working on Prof now)

Our 10 man is working on Lich King now but 25 has more casuals and wont get there anytime soon. I'm hoping someone can help to find the best BiS mix from Heroic 10 and Normal 25

Any help would be appreciated, thanks!

Obatem

Kraftwerk · 03/19/10, 3:52 PM

When I pick Relentless Earthsiege Diamond is only says 21agi. The 3% dmg to crits aint listed on the gem. And it wasnt before I updated to version Version 93i neither.

ziarre · 03/19/10, 4:05 PM

I input all my gear on the combat spreadsheet and it reccomends just about all my gems to be +20 agility. This seems a little crazy I thought I needed to stack armor pen as combat. Anyone know if I or the spreadsheet did something wrong?

saedo · 03/19/10, 4:08 PM

You might not be at the gear level for arp to be the best stat yet?

Varnaz_939 · 03/19/10, 4:43 PM

I know this probably has been asked but I can't seem to find it Can someone tell me What the hit cap and expertise cap is as well as what gems are most important to an enhancement shaman

Kraftwerk · 03/19/10, 4:44 PM

My spreadsheet tells me that explosive shot has prio over kill shot if I want to max out my dmg. Can this really be true? (Spec and gear, Snuskfia on Neptulon EU). The DPS difference is 76 DPS in favor of using explosive first.

Holyraze · 03/19/10, 4:44 PM

Quick question, do you guys think regular trauma is better then the 277 wrathful haste dagger [Wrathful Gladiator's Blade of Celerity]. Our guild is cursed and we haven't seen one trauma drop (downed rotface every week since he was up) so now i got the wrathful dagger and im wondering if its even worth the loss of sp/haste

Imperfection · 03/19/10, 5:01 PM

Vanish works fine.

Tholen · 03/19/10, 5:27 PM

Heres my question, I see many ICC hunters gemming into Armor Penetration rather than Agility, is there a DPS increase by the switch? And if so, at what point should I change to them?

Dezarro · 03/19/10, 5:44 PM

Originally Posted by Tholen

Heres my question, I see many ICC hunters gemming into Armor Penetration rather than Agility, is there a DPS increase by the switch? And if so, at what point should I change to them?

It's deifferent for each hunter and gear level. The spreadsheet shows MM specced hunters who gem ArP to the hardcap(1400) as doing the most dps. Again though, it's different for each person. My suggestion is using the spreadsheet, or the online dps analyzer @ www.femaledwarf.com.