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Old 03/20/10, 10:15 AM   #14911
gvales
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Human Death Knight
 
Twisting Nether
Trinkets....

Hello...

I'm a lonnngggggg time reader, and I'm beeginning to understand the concepts and mechanics of everything because of these forums. My question is, when in single target dps spec, on the training dummies, using only HoW and Bones(mainly for 5 min timing), I easily get a 400-500dps overall difference between [Herkuml War Token] and [Darkmoon Card: Greatness] in favor of Greatness, yet Herk is rated higher???

I could understand Greatness getting the initial burst.

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Old 03/20/10, 10:34 AM   #14912
Slagg
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Death Knight
 
Twisting Nether (EU)
Is Bryntroll bugged on PTR? It seems to proc a lot imo.

Spec 0/17/54.


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Old 03/20/10, 11:32 AM   #14913
Afabar
Don Flamenco
 
Draenei Death Knight
 
Chants Eternels (EU)
Originally Posted by Slagg View Post
Is Bryntroll bugged on PTR? It seems to proc a lot imo.
Spec 0/17/54.
Bryntroll has 11.33% proc chance. You did 100+39+53 strike according to your screenshot. I don't see see Plague Strikes, by I guess it around 13 (SS/3). So it makes 205 chance to proc Bryntrol. You should expect 23.22 proc. It's not bugged for me.


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Old 03/20/10, 11:56 AM   #14914
Slagg
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Death Knight
 
Twisting Nether (EU)
Originally Posted by Afabar View Post
Bryntroll has 11.33% proc chance. You did 100+39+53 strike according to your screenshot. I don't see see Plague Strikes, by I guess it around 13 (SS/3). So it makes 205 chance to proc Bryntrol. You should expect 23.22 proc. It's not bugged for me.
True, my mistake.

Must sim a bit and see if how good it is compared to Shadows Edge with the new spec.

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Old 03/20/10, 12:07 PM   #14915
Nuuse
 
Orc Warlock
 
Arthas
Where has all the rum gone?

Last edited by Nuuse : 03/20/10 at 12:36 PM.

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Old 03/20/10, 1:07 PM   #14916
Fujisaw
Glass Joe
 
Undead Mage
 
Whisperwind
Does Black Magic ever become a better than 81Sp on a staff? i read through lots of pages and couldn't find the answer.

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Old 03/20/10, 4:16 PM   #14917
kokojambo
 
kokjambo
Draenei Mage
 
Aerie Peak
I want to know if there are any essential details that an elemental shaman should know for LK10 normal?

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Old 03/20/10, 4:49 PM   #14918
royalpoet
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Blood Elf Priest
 
Kargath
How are fury warriors faring in ICC raids on average? Are they competitive with top DPS classes like rogues? I realize that they pay the hybrid tax, so aren't likely to match rogues, but are they at least in the same ballpark of effectiveness?

I'm just curious. I'm considering rolling one, and I don't need fury warriors to be the "best," but I'd hate to find at 80 that they're just second-rate as DPS (since I don't really desire to tank with a warrior, so their being hybrid is not a big benefit to me).

Thanks in advance for any response.

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Old 03/20/10, 5:29 PM   #14919
FredRogue
Glass Joe
 
Troll Rogue
 
Arygos
edited

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Old 03/20/10, 6:05 PM   #14920
Delakar
 
Troll Rogue
 
Wyrmrest Accord
Alright well i dont have permissions to create a new thread so I figured I would just post my question here and see what comes of it.

As a rogue i chose for my 2's parter a disc priest fairly natural choice easy way to step into the arena's. Now as I'm finding myself progressing fairly rapidly i'm running into a few problems. Namely how do i know who to sap and who do I go after on the opposing team. Once more I'm having a huge problem against Restro Druid/plate teams. Should i be trying to sap plate kill druid. or sap druid kill plate. and the final question are any of you bothering with things like shiv, garrot, ambush, gouge. or any of those other Abilities.

P.S. I'm currently using a modified 44/4/23 build. The World of Warcraft Armory - Zaksuail @ Wyrmrest Accord - Talents if you actually care.

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Old 03/20/10, 6:50 PM   #14921
Sosmashy
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Orc Warrior
 
Bronze Dragonflight (EU)
Originally Posted by royalpoet View Post
How are fury warriors faring in ICC raids on average? Are they competitive with top DPS classes like rogues? I realize that they pay the hybrid tax, so aren't likely to match rogues, but are they at least in the same ballpark of effectiveness?

I'm just curious. I'm considering rolling one, and I don't need fury warriors to be the "best," but I'd hate to find at 80 that they're just second-rate as DPS (since I don't really desire to tank with a warrior, so their being hybrid is not a big benefit to me).

Thanks in advance for any response.
I'm topping all raids in my guld at the moment, my recent highest being a normal 25 rotface at 13.2k DPS (yes my guild has slacked on Lich king 25 for our own reasons) Fury warriors are standing in a very good place right now as long as they're played correctly and you get the RnG to go with it.

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Old 03/20/10, 7:16 PM   #14922
caveman83
 
Tauren Druid
 
Emeriss (EU)
I have a question that you guys might have the answer to.

Think my gear is enough for ICC 10 HC, but I might need to change my gems to stamina. Right now, I dont need the extra hp, and feel I want the avoidance and extra dmg that I get from agility. The World of Warcraft Armory - Küngen @ Emeriss - Profile

But I am affraid that if I go all stamina, that I will lose my tps... So am I doing something wrong?

I usualy play like this FFF, Mangle, , (Maul) lacerate X5 , refresh Maul Mangle, then Maul swipe, and doing that and making sure that I always have Mangle and 5X Lacerate up.

Should I be doing something different, and if that is so, why?


Thanx you your help

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Old 03/20/10, 7:49 PM   #14923
Ristaccia
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Alterac Mountains
For optimal threat, you should be continually reapplying feral faerie fire on cooldown. After applying a 5-stack of lacerate and presuming you aren't putting up Demo Roar, your rotation should look something along the lines of:

FFF->Mangle->Swipe->Lacerate refresh->FFF->Mangle->Swipe->Swipe->Repeat

The above also assumes that you're continually queueing Maul.

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Old 03/20/10, 7:59 PM   #14924
Wilderness81
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Goblin Mage
 
Uldaman
Originally Posted by Fujisaw View Post
Does Black Magic ever become a better than 81Sp on a staff? i read through lots of pages and couldn't find the answer.
I think its very possible that it does. In my 25-man gear I use Nibelung and when I look at BM vs. 81 sp the +sp is 3 dps better. This is with a static fight, and its important to remember that movement favors procs because its more likely that the ICD will be ticking during movement than the proc will be wasted, which pushes it ahead in my opinion in this particular case.

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Old 03/20/10, 9:11 PM   #14925
Lucero
Glass Joe
 
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Gnome Warlock
 
Emerald Dream (EU)
Sorry if I'm wrong I'm new here, but we do it with two Disc Priests and its fairly easy.(10 man and try to do the same in 25 with other healers taking care of raid) The main thing to do is to shield the ones with the mark, not to heal them but to prevent damage so Saurafang does not get the full buff to put on people therefore creating a healing problem. Can also be done as holy but the shield is less efficient.

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