Here is my UI:



My Addons that make up my UI:

Xperl
Bartender
Sexymap
Titanpanel (hidden)
IceHud (1st bar: Energy, 2nd bar: Target Health, 3rd Bar: SnD/I also use their combo points)
Recount
Omen
Quartz
Quartz: Procs
CowTip (Tooltip Addon)

During raid fights my party frames disappear and it becomes the xperl raid frames to the left.

Same idea, I'd still like to know.

I have been reading this forum, and I might have missed if this question was asked before, but with 3.3.3 coming out, and with the new Frost Sub-Spec, is it worth considering to start gemming 10str/10haste if your weapons and other gear allow? Specifically, of course, if you are using H-Bryntroll.

I wish that I could try this on the Optimizer and other DK tools but I am having problems using them at the moment and have not had the chance to test this out.

Edit: Another question I have, is that with this new build, and with Bryntroll scaling better with it and with haste, is Tiny Abomination in a Jar now a desirable trinket for DKs?

I have a question regarding ilevel 264 frost mark totems. I know resto shamans LOVE haste, and when i was looking at the totems available for frost marks i wondered "Hmm, The restoration totem dosent actually do much more for me then the 245 did(My reasoning was the 245 totem was 234 static spell power(Totem of Calming Tides - Item - World of Warcraft) while the 264 one is only 255 static spell power(Totem of the Surging Sea - Item - World of Warcraft), more or less). So i took a look at the Ele totem.
Bizuri's Totem of Shattered Ice - Item - World of Warcraft

I figured "if i throw in a flame shock every 30 seconds that 200 static haste! That could be worth investing in!"
But, being indecisive i decided to consult Elitist Jerks on the matter.. Whats better, really? the ele totem or the resto totem?

On one hand you dont even have to think about the resto totem but the ele totem requires a bit of forethought (making a setfocus macro would probably be easiest). I figured i could just throw a flame shock in every 30-45 seconds (because the actual effect lasts 30 seconds from the final tick) and have 200 more haste, which seemed REALLY GOOD over 255 spellpower.
sorry if this has been posted before

EDIT: sorries i dont know how to link from WoWhead.. first time posting here .
EDIT2: I guess just posting the wowhead url in URL tags works then o.o

I was in a similar place to you until recently Caveman83, against going full stamina.

Hardmodes on 25 man demanded I do it, and in the end I believe it was the right move to make. Instead of looking at it from a tank perspective of avoid or mitigate as much damage as possible while generating as much threat as possible, try shifting your perspective.

Threat is greatly aided by tricks, MD, and salv. Losing all my agi gems was of minimal impact on my threat, a few hundred TPS at most. If you are doing things right, the only place threat is ever an issue is snap threat, which will always be an issue.

From a healer point of view, the ability to take hits is what matters. You can avoid 8 out of 10 hits, but if those two coming back to back is enough to kill you, then you need to change your gearing. Its also not just about getting over the 2 hit survival soft cap. The more effective health you have, the easier it is to heal you for enough to survive the next hit.

Take for example, the idea that you have enough effective health to take 2.75 hits before you die. This means that in the time after you take the first hit, you only need to be healed a little to take the third hit without dying - the healers have breathing room. If you can only take 2.1 hits before you die, you need more healing to survive that third hit, there's more strain on the healers to get those big heals off even if it means risking themselves.

With all the movement in ICC on ranged and healers, as well as things like Unchained Magic limiting their ability to heal, it becomes less about the RNG of avoidance and more about a healer being able to throw one quick heal and move without you dying. This increases their survivability, and in turn increases the prospects for success.

Hello fellow warlocks,

I'm not sure if it was broght up before, but latley I noticed something weird going on with chaos bolt PVEwise.

On a lot of fights (especially in a raid buffed situation) I'm getting about equal damage from chaos bolt and incinerate. It might be the DFO which I presume buffs more incinerates than chaos bolts over the 20s span, but still, I don't think that's supposed to be the situation.
I'm using skada damage meters, and seeing mostly same avg. damage for both, and if not, only 0.5-1k difference.

I'm very good geard (mostly 264 and a few 251), which I think contributes to this.

Anyone else getting these resaults? any thoughts about this? Skip chaos bolt and go for something else or keep it just for the shorter cast time? The resist pierce isn't worth for PVE (and latly PVP aswell, but that's a different subject).

This is an interesting topic. All that you say seems true Mielikinna, but as I see it it's also possible to look at it from the opposite perspective. There is a chance you will get hit 3 times in a row, unless you are untouchable. The chance gets lower the more avoidance you have. In some fights 3 fast hits in a row will likely kill you, even if you have full stamina gems, Festergut during 3rd blight for example. The more avoidance you have, the less probable are you to take 3 hits in a row, and the more seldom this happens the smaller is the chance it will happen during a time when healers are moving.

Maybe one way of getting an answer that is relevant for You is to look at the last seconds before you died, or one of your healers died. Did you receive 3 hits in a row? Then some more avoidance could possibly have prevented the situation. Did you not receive 3 hits in a row, but 2 hits brought you so low that the 3rd hit that came a few seconds later killed you eventhough you received some heals in between? Then some more stamina could have saved you. In the end I think it comes down to balancing avoidance and hp in a reasonable way. At the moment I'm not sure if I need one more than the other, so I'm using mostly shifted gems

hello fellow warriors, i have a question about cloak enchants 22 agi -vs- 23 haste rating, arms warriors use 22agi but for fury i have seen about 50 / 50 that uses either 22 agility or 23 haste rating, what are the pros and cons of these enchants ? 23 haste rating looks attractive since there'll be more heroic strikes queues and agi flats out increases crit chance, any thoughts ?

Will we get a spreadsheet for HaT? I think the statvalues differ from Combat or Mutilate (Haste seems pretty useless on first glance, as a HaT rogues gets nothing from autoattacks).

Most 245 items seem better than most 251.

As of now, I do the normal 10 and 25 man, and it has not been the problem that I have died. Im almost always last to die. So it feels like I have enough HP right now. U usualy land on 59k in 10 man with all the buffs. What I am trying to change now is to make it easier for the healers, so they dont have to consentrate so much on the tanks

Is Heroic Bryntroll better than Shadow's Edge?

My first thought would be yes for at least the 3.3 patch.

But some math to prove it would sure comfort me.