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Old 03/21/10, 8:46 PM   #14956
dpsizit
Glass Joe
 
Human Rogue
 
Alexstrasza
With 3.3 right around the corner, what will be the three glyphs of choice for combat? I'm currently running SS, KS and TotT.
I'm thinking rupture might be viable again, not sure what to replace, if anything. Does this also mean points in Blood Spatter now?

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Old 03/21/10, 9:08 PM   #14957
woodstock
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Aerie Peak
scale of fates vs. eye of broodmother

Hi there,

I came back to WoW not long ago and am currently in a 2 piece T10 and 2 piece T9 elemental shaman gear. The trinkets that I am using are from the Ulduar day's, so Eye of the Broodmother and Scale of Fates. I just recently won the Muradin's Spyglass. I was wondering, which is better to replace in ICC?

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Old 03/21/10, 9:29 PM   #14958
Toron
Banned
 
Tauren Shaman
 
Mal'Ganis
I'm curious. I know haste is the thing to be stacking. but what about the AP totem? what's the difference in DPS between totems?

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Old 03/21/10, 9:40 PM   #14959
fangless
Von Kaiser
 
Goblin Death Knight
 
Arthas
Switched to a 0/17/54 build on PTR, and then back to the normal 17/0/54 on normal.

Doing the same rotations, I got 4300dps on test with the frost subspec, and 5300 on normal with my regular UH spec.

Is there something different to the new frost subspec rotation that's supposed to be used?




edit: ok, so i retested my normal spec on both test and regular servers, and the dps turns out to be basically the same. isn't the frost subspec supposed to be at least somewhat better? :P

Last edited by fangless : 03/21/10 at 10:02 PM.

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Old 03/21/10, 9:51 PM   #14960
micronSD
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Nesingwary
Originally Posted by fangless View Post
Switched to a 0/17/54 build on PTR, and then back to the normal 17/0/54 on normal.

Doing the same rotations, I got 4300dps on test with the frost subspec, and 5300 on normal with my regular UH spec.

Is there something different to the new frost subspec rotation that's supposed to be used?
Boss dummies in Acherus hold/major cities arent an accurate way to test each spec. You have to run a simulator.

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Old 03/21/10, 9:58 PM   #14961
Siduri
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Mage
 
Illidan
That makes sense. Thanks for the info.

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Old 03/21/10, 10:03 PM   #14962
fangless
Von Kaiser
 
Goblin Death Knight
 
Arthas
Originally Posted by micronSD View Post
Boss dummies in Acherus hold/major cities arent an accurate way to test each spec. You have to run a simulator.
Which would be true if I was looking for raid dps numbers. I'm comparing apples to apples here. I ran both specs on the dummy, and now I get results that are basically identical. ~4300 dps for both.

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Old 03/21/10, 10:12 PM   #14963
micronSD
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Nesingwary
Originally Posted by fangless View Post
Which would be true if I was looking for raid dps numbers. I'm comparing apples to apples here. I ran both specs on the dummy, and now I get results that are basically identical. ~4300 dps for both.
Doesnt change what I said. Run a simulator if you want to see which spec will be higher dps for you.

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Old 03/21/10, 11:02 PM   #14964
Zelretch
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Dun Modr (EU)
Originally Posted by fangless View Post
Which would be true if I was looking for raid dps numbers. I'm comparing apples to apples here. I ran both specs on the dummy, and now I get results that are basically identical. ~4300 dps for both.
That's only true if both specs scale identically with raid buffs, so even ignoring all the weird bugs dummies seem to introduce, there's a point in what micronSD is saying.

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Old 03/21/10, 11:17 PM   #14965
kc102
Von Kaiser
 
kc102's Avatar
 
Human Death Knight
 
Anvilmar
There was a dummy in SW that sat at 1 health, and didn't change.

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Old 03/22/10, 12:32 AM   #14966
baterax
 
Human Paladin
 
Bloodhoof
Matching gem colors

Hello!

I got a tip from a guy to stack all STR no matter the bonuses, so I did and it increased my DPS a whole bunch.

But I've been looking at MaxDPS.com, and it suggests I match gem colors using STR+Haste gems.
What I used to have, was STR in red slots, CRIT in yellow and STR+STA in blues... never thought about putting haste in.

If I swap out my STR gems for STR+haste in my yellow sockets, will it increase my DPS even though I'd be losing STR overall?
Oh, almost forgot. To take a look at my character, he's on Bloodhoof, his name is Ullric.

Last edited by baterax : 03/22/10 at 12:38 AM.

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Old 03/22/10, 1:13 AM   #14967
krazykr0w
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Ner'zhul
Using the Test Dummy has proven nothing but inconsistant to me. My dps with the same gear on, same rotation often produces different results up to 500 dps up or down from the previous run. Is there a new BiS thread anyone can point me to, I can't seem to find one for Destro.

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Old 03/22/10, 1:26 AM   #14968
Miril
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Silver Hand
Originally Posted by Toron View Post
I'm curious. I know haste is the thing to be stacking. but what about the AP totem? what's the difference in DPS between totems?
It's 220 haste vs 440 AP, i.e. the same ratio as between a 20 haste and a 40 AP gem. So if gemming Haste is better for you, using the haste totem will be better too, generally. Also haste totem easier to keep stacked.

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Old 03/22/10, 3:45 AM   #14969
Yogi226
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Shattered Hand
So with the patch coming (hopefully) on tuesday and going to the frost sub spec without reaping, does the rotation stay the same as the current reapingless build or is it altered in any way?

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Old 03/22/10, 5:09 AM   #14970
tet666
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Druid
 
Aegwynn (EU)
So with the patch this week most likely have we decided on the optimal spec? I think something like that: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft could be the winner.

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