Thread of Ultimate Stupidity - Page 999

olorin_75 · 03/22/10, 5:17 AM

Did alot of posts just vanish?

caezar123 · 03/22/10, 5:18 AM

I have a question. I was under the impression that Windfury and IcyT are going to stack from now on.

However, when I invite a Shamy to my group on the PTR and he puts down the totem I dont get the buff.

So applying IT, it doesn't matter if theres a windfury totem or not (at least on the PTR)

Did I understand something wrong?

A clarification is kindly appreciated.

Lynthea · 03/22/10, 6:01 AM

I think it has been posted before and also the patchnotes state that "Windfury Totem and the party/raid component of Improved Icy Talons still do not stack."
You might also take a look at Ghostcrawlers explanation about the "new" IT.

Kitiar · 03/22/10, 6:48 AM

Hey there
Last time I've tanked anything somewhat serious, was back in the TBC days, but now I've just gotten into a guild who's currently at LK in 25man normal, so I'll have to take my stats into a bit more serious consideration than before.
I've been boosted through ICC25 with my guild, giving me a lot of gear, but i honestly feel that it's hard to find out what's the "best" to wear

Current stats: (Unbuffed)
HP: 51977
Armor: 30.682
Dodge: 42.7%
AP: 6710
Hit: 336
Exp: 48
Armory: The World of Warcraft Armory - Kitiar @ Chromaggus - Profile

So, here's my problem: Since my guild wants me to change a lot between dpsing and tanking, they sometimes makes me dps in tankspec/tankgear which really isn't anything fancy to look at, and it's slightly boring. Now they've gotten the idea that I should have 3 sets - 1 dps set, 1 tankset with stamina, and now also a tankset spammed with only agility!
First, I was very much against the idea, since they wanted me to regem my current gear into agility only - They are saying that as soon as we reach hardmode icc25, a bear with lots of agility will be way more benefitable than having a bear sitting at 67k (ish) hp buffed in icc25 - and I also suspect that it's so I can push out a bit more dps when they are making me dps in tankgear/spec.

What's your point in this issue? As I know I'm lacking behind with knowledge on tanking, I'd really appreciate if you could tell me if regemming everything actually would make me a more benefitable tank for the guild?
(btw, if youre looking at the armory and see i've done something completely mad, dont hesitate to rage at me, i simply need it!)

So, agility set or 'stamina' set?

Teohetimokan · 03/22/10, 7:30 AM

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft sounds better to me.

The World of Warcraft Armory - Anjunah @ Sargeras - Profile

Frost 00-53-18

Ability	Damage done				hits			Crits			Misses		Glances		Uptime
	Total	%	#	Avg	#	%	Avg	#	%	Avg	#	Avg	#	%	Avg	%
MainHand	519047739	14,6	176180	4236,4	52870	24,6	2218,9	69650	32,5	4571	38401	17,9	53660	25	1553,6
Obliterate	512378802	14,4	70314	7287	34636	49,3	4095,8	35678	50,7	10385
FrostStrike	469852125	13,2	73916	6356,6	34583	46,8	3503,2	39333	53,2	8865,3
OffHand	314623772	8,9	176011	2577	52280	24,4	1344,8	69809	32,5	2772,2	38570	18	53922	25,1	942,1
Obliterate(OH)	310838420	8,8	70314	4420,7	34829	49,5	2487,6	35485	50,5	6318,1
FrostStrike(OH)	284520982	8	73916	3849,2	34627	46,8	2123,6	39289	53,2	5370,2
FrostFever	191750328	5,4	111653	1717,4	111653	100										99,7
Necrosis	161969108	4,6	352191	459,9	352191	100
HowlingBlast	157177408	4,4	13486	11654,9	1962	14	5500,3	11524	82,4	12702,7	499	3,6
BloodPlague	152691840	4,3	111790	1365,9	111790	100										99,6
IcyTouch	88415975	2,5	17914	4935,6	7465	40,2	3055,7	10449	56,3	6278,6	637	3,4
BloodStrike	80704147	2,3	28497	2832	18249	64	1823,2	10248	36	4628,4
BloodCakedBlade	67660832	1,9	53149	1273	53149	100	1273
Ghoul	59540954	1,7	85771	694,2	74523	86,9	618,2	11248	13,1	1197,3
BloodStrike(OH)	48805013	1,4	28497	1712,6	18304	64,2	1105,4	10193	35,8	2803,1
BloodCakedBlade(OH)	41077300	1,2	53214	771,9	53214	100	771,9
PlagueStrike	39463881	1,1	17919	2202,3	10452	58,3	1399,5	7467	41,7	3326,1
PlagueStrike(OH)	23958079	,7	17919	1337	10434	58,2	849,2	7485	41,8	2017,1
Bandit	22482032	,6	6938	3240,4	4819	66,7	2811	2119	29,3	4217	292	4
Off Hand RazorIce	4399884	,1	366657	12	366657	100	12
DPS	9865
Total Damage	3551,36m	in 100h
Threat Per Second	7819
Generated in	26s
Template:	Frost PTR
Priority:	Frost
Presence:	Blood
Sigil:	HangedMan
RuneEnchant:	FallenCrusader /	Razorice
Pet Calculation:	True

Razzamanaz · 03/22/10, 7:38 AM

Hi all,

I need help and guidance from you well educated and knowledged people if you have a spare second please.

I have read so much on here and on wowmb.net about gemming, enchants, rotations etc and follow them, but I must be doing something wrong or not fully understanding something as the DPS is near 3.5-3.8k (Some times 4,2k) even on training dummies, and this is really sad .

I have always played as Affliction for as long as I have had my Lock. And I don't understand whats happening with my DPS. In accordance to GearScore - I have pretty good gs-5335, and guys (not warlocks) in my guild told me that I should manage minimum 5-5.5k DPS, as well as Simcraft tool also says 5-7k (depend on buffs and type of fight)

Rotation is; LT>SB>Haunt>UA>Corr>Curse of Agony>SB> I use Wild Magic Pot or Potion of speed

My Armory profile is:
[/url]http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Подземье&cn=Грэндаль[/url]

And even when I try to fight in Destro spec - DPS is about 3,3- 3.4k on Saurfang (for example)

Any and all help greatly appreciated,

Grendal - a Lock lost in the Darkness of DPS!!!

And sorry for my english

yautja · 03/22/10, 8:46 AM

one question, has anyone posted so far the value of getting wrathful pvp offset gear, like the belt, boots and bracers?

Barlow · 03/22/10, 9:28 AM

Originally Posted by dpsizit

what will be the three glyphs of choice for combat?[...]
Does this also mean points in Blood Spatter now?

When testing with the 3.3.3. Edition of iDPS it seemed speccing 0 Improved Eviscerate, 3/3 Ruthlessness and 2/2 Bloodspatter resultet in the highest DPS. Glyphs would still be SS, KS and TotT.

bigdan · 03/22/10, 10:12 AM

Switched from JC+BS to JC+Engi a few weeks ago. On paper, Engi is nearly equal to BS. But I cant count the times my boots helped me, a mate or even the whole raid surviving. The actual rDPS is higher, lots of cool gimmics (mailbox, bank, dala AH, extractor, pvpstuff, ...). Best choice ever!
Perhaps consider should consider (^^) changing the Page1 professions?

Kahcheeta · 03/22/10, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by yautja

one question, has anyone posted so far the value of getting wrathful pvp offset gear, like the belt, boots and bracers?

Well, from a EH point of view the PvP gear is really nice (especially the weapons) since it packs a lot of stamina. However you loose a lot of threat vs the PvE pieces, so if you use PvP gear, monitor your threat to see if you can pull it off. My personal experience is that I need all the threat I can muster to keep ahead of the top dps'ers.

evoydz · 03/22/10, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Ruinvastator

I know it won't do the clicking for me but the macro just didn't work, the green area mark did not appear. Now it does. My Aimed Shot macro looks like this now:

#showtooltip Aimed Shot
/cast [modifier: shift] !Aspect of the Dragonhawk
/cast Furious Howl
/cast [@pettarget,exists] Bite
/cast [@pettarget,exists] Kill Command
/use 10
/cast Silencing Shot
/cast Aimed Shot
/use Saronite Bomb

I use shift with Steady key to turn on Viper and shift with Chimera, Aimed and Serpent Sting to turn it off and turn Dragonhawk on. I'm also not sure Furious Howl and Bite needs to be macroed, I didn't notice any dps change after making it non-auto. But funny thing is, using Saronite Bomb before Aimed Shot does not work for me. It works as last command in macro and even then I need to press it twice sometimes to fire Aimed if Saronite is not on cooldown. This is a bit counterintuitive for me. Second strange thing, it does not work with Chimera in nearly identical macro.

If you're switching to Viper for all of your Steady Shots, you are experiencing a significant dps loss. Thus, I suggest changing the way you change Aspects and NOT have them bound to specific shots.

And no, Bite and Furious Howl don't need to be macro'd into your shots. Just turn them "On" on your pet bar so they are used automatically when they are available.

markovicous · 03/22/10, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by evoydz

If you're switching to Viper for all of your Steady Shots, you are experiencing a significant dps loss. Thus, I suggest changing the way you change Aspects and NOT have them bound to specific shots.

And no, Bite and Furious Howl don't need to be macro'd into your shots. Just turn them "On" on your pet bar so they are used automatically when they are available.

It's proven that macro'ing Bite gives you more bites throughout encounters than leaving it on autocast.

Also, he has his Aspect managing set to 'Shift' + xx. So, if he doesn't Shift + Steady Shot, it won't change to Viper. That's not a bad way to do it at all. I couldn't, because I have the same keys bound for unmodified, Shift, and Alt keys, with aspects bound to alt+mouse wheel so I can spam between shots if I have to. Neither method is wrong.

Bingeljell · 03/22/10, 11:18 AM

I'm not sure whether this is the correct place to post this, but I've been having issues with my dps in relation to the figures I see in the sims.

A little background information:

I'm 14/0/57 Unholy 2H Reaping - and you can find my Character here.

2 Major points of concern for me here:

1) I pull out at least 500 more dps if I sim with Unholy Priority over the rotation.

8656 dps with Rotation / 9057 with priority.

I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, if so I apologize. If not, what does this mean? Should I be using Blood Strikes even though I'm waiting for my death runes to come off cooldown? That completely defeats the purpose of going reaping.

2) In raids, I seem to be doing sub-par dps compared to what my sims are showing, or even compared to other DKs with similar gear setups or stats as myself.

I should have a set of WoL reports this Tuesday and will go over them to see why, but I'm pretty sure that I'm following the do's and don'ts as well as using my brains. (trying at least..)

Any help would be appreciated.

(I have a warlock too and have no issues pulling numbers with him..)

thrillz · 03/22/10, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Bearcowcat

I was checking out TreeCalcs with my stats and saw that Tranquility is my best spell, in and out of Blood Lust.

Is there any way to get Tranquility to hit the dragon? My initial guess is no, unfortunately.

theres no way u actually have a wow account ^^

Lobo_nte · 03/22/10, 11:41 AM

Hey all. I don't really know if it's the right place to post these and if I can, but I'm in need of an advice... Maybe more

I'm not very pleased with my dps and I want to make some things clear. So as I've read I need to use DRW after the first full rotation.
So it's like:
(1) IT-PS-HS-HS-DS -Dump- DS-HS-HS-HS-Pest -Dump-
(2) HS-HS-HS-HS-DS -Dump- DS-HS-HS-HS-Pest -> And here I use hysteria, empower rune weapon, DRW

The second and maybe the third use of it also will need to be cast with "fresh" diseases on the target right? So after pestilence. My other problem is when I use Empower Rune Weapon it will affect my rotation a little but it's usually enough for breaking the DS HS HS HS Pest part. In some chases if I cast Empower Rune weapon, i won't have the time somehow for one HS in the rotation. Also have tried fixing this with blood tap maybe, but i can't really make rotations..

That's all right now, I know my gear is dreadful at the moment, I'm trying to get crafted legs and T10 gloves, also bryntroll so I'll not have 45 expertise

I made a mistake when I bought the T10 legs, didn't know this site. And with the gemming, should i just meet meta requirements and full my gear with Arp or Str gems or should I use DK Optimize?

Thanks for the answers and sorry if this post is totally at the wrong place!
With respect,
Sepyroth