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02/25/09, 5:19 PM
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#2551
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Glass Joe
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So I have been seeing more and more combat rogues going either webbed death/hail storm or hailstorm/webbed death.
Whaaa? they going for just white and poison dmg? Most are using deadly/instant. I don't get it?
Anyone know why this is? the poison and white dps out dmg slower higher dmg main hand?
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02/25/09, 6:58 PM
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#2552
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Glass Joe
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Hey guys,
I'm the raid leader of my guild and am curious about the DPS of a rogue we have. It seems like he's doing far less than he should be, and we only have one rogue that raids with us so there's nothing to compare it with.
Wow Web Stats
The World of Warcraft Armory
He's in his PvP gear at the moment, but his spec is the same. As you can see from the WWS, he's outdpsed by our Prot Paladin main tank. Is there something he's doing wrong in the abilities he uses, is it his spec, or what's going on? Thanks in advance for the help!
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02/25/09, 8:14 PM
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#2553
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Glass Joe
Undead Warlock
Burning Legion
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You both beat me to it. I had a very lovely post with all kinds of math ready to explain this crap when I refreshed and saw your posts. This is what I love about these forums. 
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02/25/09, 9:34 PM
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#2554
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Glass Joe
Undead Warrior
Свежеватель душ (EU)
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guys i have question about armor penetration. is it effective? i have 22.21% is it enought ?
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02/25/09, 11:06 PM
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#2555
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Glass Joe
Blood Elf Death Knight
Aerie Peak
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Originally Posted by Kaubel
This is true for at least those who think they can use our forums to bitch and cry about changes that aren't tested or guaranteed.
So go ahead, folks. Whine all you want about the "nerfs" and how Blizzard hates you. Nothing bad will happen.
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Huh? I certainly wasn't whining, just making an observation about the hubbub of changes on PTR (and the discrepancies between the patches and patch notes). I enjoy the discussions about build adjustments and think it's somewhat exciting to see trees shaken up this much.
I'm pretty sure nobody in this thread has done anything close to what you bitched about. Not sure what you're crusading for.
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02/26/09, 6:56 AM
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#2556
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Glass Joe
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arcane dmg
i am new to arcane i was frost fire previously. i have read alot of the forums and have found out that arcane has been nerfed in 3.0.9. the glyph of arcane blast is broken, and the dmg coefficient on arcane barrage was drastically reduced.
i have a few questions...
1. what are good stats to stack as an arcane mage?
im at about 590 haste, 1900 spell power, and 21% crit.
2. how do i avoid going OOM while still maintaining high dps?
there are many helpful forums that give their suggestions on rotations,
but i have found the actual damage i do when using these rotations to be less than
what the forums claim. the only way im holding down 5500 dps is by spamming arcane blast
until arcane missiles proc then casting that. doing this i am OOM in 20 secs.
3. is there hope for arcane mages in 3.1?
as the arcane spec stands now frostfire is far superior. frost fire does about equal damage to a single target, while maintaining aoe dmg and a damage over time caused by the crit from frost fire bolt and pyroblast. unfortunately arcane cant even compete.
I like playing arcane, i was frost for soo long, and have had my fill of frost fire. please respond with any help, advice or inside knowledge or arcanes hidden potential. my arcane mage is oneleftout look him up if it helps.
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02/26/09, 11:39 AM
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#2557
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Glass Joe
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Yeah that's a great of putting things. There's no doubt that my dps has gone up. I guess it comes down to which playstyle I prefer.
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02/26/09, 1:52 PM
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#2558
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Glass Joe
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thanks for your fast answers  and thanks for all your work aldriana! 
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02/26/09, 2:01 PM
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#2559
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Priest
Sentinels
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Originally Posted by Motrin
A 300 second fight (without movement) is 200 global cooldowns. Here is your breakdown:
18 VTs - 88 ticks/5 (number of ticks per cast)
33 MBs
1 Pain
12 DPs - 90 ticks/8
4 Deaths
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I didn't die 4 times on patch >> plus i did a 6 second dispersion at the beggining of the fight which was on accident but the point is i have alot to work on
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02/26/09, 2:02 PM
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#2560
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Glass Joe
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Shadow Word: Death
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02/26/09, 2:06 PM
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#2561
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Priest
Sentinels
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Ahh my bad on that, But yeah I did do dispersion on accident
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02/26/09, 2:09 PM
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#2562
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Glass Joe
Blood Elf Warlock
Kazzak (EU)
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i have 2251 SP self buffed 15.86% hit 13% crit 11% haste and ma build is 54/0/17 i hardly get 3.1k in OD 3D and other hybird lock in same grp gets 3.3-3.6k dps and i always keep up ma dots.. For rotation SB UA Imo CoA Corr SL. can u help me in here and what am doing wrong or build wrong ? plz assisst
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02/26/09, 3:34 PM
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#2563
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Von Kaiser
Night Elf Hunter
Ravencrest (EU)
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Did they remove T.N.T refreshing Immolation trap? I guess that's why using it in the spreadsheet as constantly there doesn't work at all.
That's pretty frustrating. It not only makes Trap Mastery completely useless again, but it also nerfs Lock n Load since you can't even guarantee a proc with immolation any more, and it was never that great without trap dancing anyway.
I'll reword this to make it a bit clearer.
If I make the shot rotation, pet, glyphs, etc all the same as they are pre-3.1, I lose about 500 DPS in this spreadsheet.
Anyone else seeing the same thing? I must have missed something somewhere.
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02/26/09, 4:20 PM
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#2564
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Glass Joe
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how are the DW 1h builds looking? is there a benefit to speccing that way with the TG nerf?
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02/26/09, 4:26 PM
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#2565
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Glass Joe
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Of course I will update this thread after 3.1 hit the live servers. I'm currently implementing the new glyphs and talents into the model. I personally enjoy the discussion about the (first!) patch notes, but things are not eaten as hot as they are cooked. Everything you read from here on is still 3.08.
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Awsome Thanks!!!!
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02/26/09, 6:36 PM
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#2566
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Glass Joe
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I noticed something interesting when I was doing H AN earlier, and I decided to test it. Apparently, if you us a cancelaura macro during the cast of a Holy Light, then the Holy Light goes off at full strength. For instance, i was using:
#showtooltip Holy Shock
/cancelaura Divine Plea
/cast Holy Shock
To get an emergency HS in during Divine Plea. But apparently, if there's an emergency during Divine Plea, then we can get off a HL cast that divine plea ticks during, as well as the HS. I don't think it's really gamebreaking or anything, but I hadn't seen this before, so I decide to post it.
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02/26/09, 8:00 PM
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#2567
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Glass Joe
Draenei Death Knight
Uther
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I forgot to turn off titles and guild names.  Runes appear just under the player frame, can see them faded out.
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02/26/09, 8:35 PM
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#2568
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Glass Joe
Human Warrior
Alexstrasza
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I wasn't sure which forum to post this question, and I might have been listed before, but, I'm curious. Out of all the spreadsheets, which do most people believe is the most accurate in terms of comparing dps? I personally know of 3 that I use, but I get different results. They are:
1. Rawr
2. Theory Craft-o-Matic
3. Magegraf
I see mainly rawr listed with even it's own post, so is it safe to assume the answer is Rawr? I like rawr, with exception to it's gem options. Also, are there any other good spreadsheets that you'd recommend that I haven't listed?
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02/26/09, 8:40 PM
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#2569
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Glass Joe
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Same Here
Originally Posted by Jacelin
K well i am a lvl 80 night elf TG warrior. Fairly well geared except for a few epic lvl 70 pieces i am wearing. My rotation is BT, WW, slam on crit, and heroic strike as a rage dump. My problem is I am not able to pull off more than about 1900 to 2k dmg in 10man naxx and no more than 2.5k in 25 man naxx. I have seen other fury warrior putting out twice my numbers and i cannot seem to figure out how. Any help would be very appreciative. Thanks alot.
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Seems like i'm in a similar situation as you. I have good gear, do the rotation everyone says is best, try to keep my hit and exp capped, but am i missing something? One bad thing i know of is my comp isn't the greatest but how much do you think that affects me? I'm probably just a noob but any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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02/26/09, 9:50 PM
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#2570
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Glass Joe
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Finally! I will have the perfect title! Bwahahahaha!
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02/26/09, 10:31 PM
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#2571
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Don Flamenco
Human Rogue
Kor'gall (EU)
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Those who were missing a few candies from Be Mine!, it's time for rejoicing, I was missing 2 and was awarded "the Love Fool" on PTR.
If this is intended or not remains to be seen.
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Fans glory to the Gladiators,
Gods glory to the Heroes.
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02/27/09, 1:54 AM
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#2573
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Glass Joe
Human Warrior
Alexstrasza
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Anyone? would really appreciate some opinions/feedback here.
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02/27/09, 3:08 AM
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#2574
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Don Flamenco
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Originally Posted by PSGarak
MMO-Champion BlueTracker - Change Hearthstones to 30 Minutes.
Long story short, Hearthstone cooldown will be shortened to 30 minutes in 3.1, as partial compensation for ghetto-hearting from an instance sending you to a graveyard instead of hearth location. It's also one of the fastest reversals, and strangest blue threads, I've read.
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Cue a bunch of shamans complaining about how they need a buff now. 
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02/27/09, 3:14 AM
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#2575
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by typobox
Cue a bunch of shamans complaining about how they need a buff now. 
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I vote they build in the astral recall glyph into the ability QQ
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