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Old 03/28/09, 10:28 PM   #3001
Mooffin
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Greymane
I use...Mutilate, SnD, Mutilatex2, HFB, Rupture, repeat but the SnD is replaced with Eviscerete....

Someone pls explain why Envenom is better for DPS please
 
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Old 03/28/09, 10:47 PM   #3002
Tithene
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Tauren Hunter
 
Shattered Hand
tyvm, Stickums
 
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Old 03/28/09, 10:58 PM   #3003
wolfranger89
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Mage
 
Hellscream
I was just wondering what is a good leveling spec im combat atm, i lvl with my rl bud a pally so he holds aggro, Any tips?
 
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Old 03/29/09, 12:51 AM   #3004
Terrorism
Glass Joe
 
Undead Rogue
 
Blackrock
i have been away for abit is WD-mh-ip / twilights mist-oh-deadly, right way to go still.

btw thses are my best weapons
 
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Old 03/29/09, 6:29 AM   #3005
Norgu
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Death Knight
 
Thunderlord
aight I'm just trying to figure out what to do when I ding 80, because my guild is currently low on resto shamans.
 
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Old 03/29/09, 8:09 AM   #3006
lovingbenji
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Night Elf Rogue
 
<DoT>
Sinstralis (EU)
Originally Posted by Wogue View Post
The 3 specs have always been equal (well maybe swords had the edge pre-wotlk). The only thing affecting what combat weapons spec you choose should be what weapons you can get your hands on.

They did slap on some haste but they've removed it again. Maces didn't need a buff, it needed some decent maces.
Thanks for the clarification Wogue
 
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Old 03/29/09, 9:09 AM   #3007
Jaffi
Von Kaiser
 
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Gorgonnash (EU)
Which one of the following item levels/qualities should I go for if I would like to make the most profit out of my uncommon gems?

[Sun Rock Ring]
[Earthshadow Ring]
[Jade Dagger Pendant]
 
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Old 03/29/09, 10:47 AM   #3008
Duilliath
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Night Elf Druid
 
The Maelstrom (EU)
Check the local AH.

We don't know your server's prices for Dust/Essences/Gems.

An thenn tehy wuz al ded. Srsly. (Exodus 1)
 
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Old 03/29/09, 11:19 AM   #3009
Kalisia
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Steamwheedle Cartel
help for combat daggers

Combat daggers is lagging way behind other builds. Mainly due to positioning, and the fact that most encounters dont allow you to be behind the boss 100% of the time. Bosses like Thadius , for instance, you're the same charge as the tank and now your forced to use sinister strike to build combo's. Lets face it, SS with a dagger is basicly futile. Durring that time the average combat dagger rogue see's a major drop in dps/damage, untill he can get behind the target once again , backstabing. My thought was to add a talent , deep enough in the combat tree to avoid PVP use, that gives say 10/20 % more damage on SS with a dagger equipped in the MH . SS with a dagger still wouldnt be as powerfull as backstab, but atleast it would close the gap up a bit when a combat dagger rogue is forced into a frontal attack position.
Again , this was just a random idea, any other thoughts on this ?
 
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Old 03/29/09, 11:26 AM   #3010
Jaffi
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Gorgonnash (EU)
I am wondering which of those items has the best ratio of materials needed to create it and what you get when disenchanting it, rather creating a rare lvl 75 item vs the lvl 73 one.
 
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Old 03/29/09, 2:29 PM   #3011
Iluat
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Night Elf Rogue
 
Stormrage (EU)
Hi guys, I've read a part of this topic, trying to understand how the patch will affect rogues pve dps with talents and glyphs.
Do someone has any suggestion on spec (expecially for assassination builds, but also for combat) and on glyph's set up for the incoming 3.1 patch?
For example, I think that the new "Master poisoner" and the new "Lightining reflex" can change the (optimal since 3.1) 51/13/7 spec, with combat I think we will have no problems, will be enougth using 3/3 Lightining reflex instead of endurace, improved sprint or improved kick.
Another great change will come from glyphs I think: assassination build will probably gain the glyph of mutilate and of hbf, and for combat they will add the killing spree's glyph right? And also blizz will add the fan of knives glyph...
What do you think about it? Whitch do you think will be the best spec/glyphs configuration for pve dps?
Thank you guys, bye.
 
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Old 03/29/09, 2:53 PM   #3012
Wodahs
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Human Rogue
 
Lightbringer
PriorityQueue

PriorityQueue WoW AddOns - PriorityQueue - WowAce.com

Anyone who has used squak and awe, disqodice, have seen the potential in a system to queue you into what spell you should be casting in a priority based cast system. Makes it much easier to juggle fluid rotations.
note: Im not the author!
 
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Old 03/29/09, 10:25 PM   #3013
Umdara
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Gnome Warlock
 
Bronzebeard
you know they took out DS in 3.1.....right?
 
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Old 03/30/09, 1:05 AM   #3014
TaunTsauce
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Gnome Warrior
 
Silver Hand
I have always joked about smite-bots, and have been know to do my fair share of dps whilst healing on my priest. So finally I have decided to take the plunge. I finally thought to give it a try because of all my constant swapping back and forth between shadow and holy has made my gear a mish-mash of both. (pre-wrath it was my understanding that +dmg and mp5 on gear were the road blocks).

These are the specs i'm tossing around, haven't been able to test them yet to see how they fair and which is essentially superior.

Spec1: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

Spec2: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

my armory for lulz: The World of Warcraft Armory

Spec two would incorperate more shadow dmg with tossing SW:P and sw into the mix. I haven't actually come upon a rotation for either, though I think the second would be the same as the old standard HF > SW:P > Smite > SW > smite > smite ..... and working devouring plague in there somewhere aswell.
 
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Old 03/30/09, 1:51 AM   #3015
Turnaga
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Tauren Shaman
 
Sargeras
I leveled up enchanting today to 410 to get the 19 SP to rings. As I hit about 375 the thoguht of the epic gems did cross my mind, which made me think that if Blizzard doesn't buff enchants and other professions else then a JC/BS would be the way to go. However, even if they don't buff the other professions, the difference should only be maybe 12 spell power (assuming 25 spellpower gems), and only a gain of 8 spell power with blacksmithing if they go with 23 spell power gems? That is jsut my estimate right now. Personally I don't think it will make too much of a difference as to whether enchanting or blacksmithing paired with jewelcrafting is better except in the wallet. I think blacksmiths can edge out enchanting at being able to make a little more money with less effort.
 
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Old 03/30/09, 2:10 AM   #3016
moonieass13
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Death Knight
 
Gorgonnash
Well I am a new 80 DK

I decided that I wanted to go unholy for DPS. After reading and talking to many people on spec and gear I finally got into some decent pre raid gear... its still coming along but its okay. And I used the spec given in this thread.. I am using the standard rotation

PS-IT-BS-BS-SS-Dump
SS-SS-SS-Dumb

using IT, SS, and ghoul gylphs along with Horn of winter, raise dead, and pestilence.

if you want to armory me to find more info on gear and what not search MoonieDk on gorg.

on the boss dummy I cant even break 2k dps.... I have no idea why.

my questions are..

What presence should I be in?
Should I use a different rotation?

and any other ideas for a newer DK

Thanks in advance

-Moonie
 
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Old 03/30/09, 3:11 AM   #3017
lichdawg
Von Kaiser
 
Undead Death Knight
 
Archimonde (EU)
Originally Posted by moonieass13 View Post
Well I am a new 80 DK
If you have taken a couple of minutes to read the last few pages you would have realised that this is no place for basic questions. If you need help with basic thing, since you are a new dk, try here: Death Knight: Simple Questions/Simple Answers , you will have more luck there.
 
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Old 03/30/09, 4:11 AM   #3018
Borninexile
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Troll Shaman
 
Azshara
Originally Posted by Mmootimus View Post
Fact is, changing one blue trinket for another is very unlikely to ever do anything substantial to your DPS, and when you are talking about the two best blue trinkets for Ele, then the difference is very small indeed.

I would still use Mark of the War Prisoner, as assuming its on use is worth ~30 spellpower less than the Forge Ember's procc then its still a pretty good deal. Thats without going into the various pros and cons of on-use vs. procc trinkets.

The gain would be minimal. You would probably get more of a stat boost by simply rearranging your gems so you are hitting a better socket bonus than the dreadful one on the T7 chest, and you aren't 11 points over the hit cap.
:P i didint gem the chest to get the socket bonus, it just kinda ended up that way when i was looking for something i could put my 27 hit gem into that i wouldn't replace for a long time. thanks for your response i'll shoot for the war prisoner... i actually had the trinket a few months ago but vendored it =/ not sure why.
 
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Old 03/30/09, 5:59 AM   #3019
remanis
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Rogue
 
Frostwhisper (EU)
Now that we are getting close to the release of 3.1 (assuming that it will be release on the 14th of april), whats the conclusion of all the data gathered so far?

1. Best Combat spec (with best glyphs)?
2. Best Mutilate spec (with glyphs)?

Of course its hard to say what are the BiS items as we still have around 50% of the loot not listed so no point in asking for BiS items for the both specs.

Thank you!
 
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Old 03/30/09, 6:35 AM   #3020
Janathema
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Gul'dan (EU)
Hi,
did anyone already do some maths on the EP-Values regarding patch 3.1?
Since haste and armor pen rating gets buffed, it would be nice to know if there are some items, which get way better then they are at the moment, e.g. [Boots of the Great Construct] vs [Boots of the Renewed Flight]

Greetings,
Janathema
 
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Old 03/30/09, 10:33 AM   #3021
Hemfive
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Death Knight
 
Aggramar (EU)
In the last few hours I read post here and there on this site, but I wonder if anyone can put together the calcs to understand which way go when 3.1 comes live.

Personally I tryed all 3 specs and I like them all.
Every tree has pro and cons, so for me has no importance going blood, frost or unholy.

The target is max my dps in raid, but maybe is too early to say wich template will be better for dps?
Thanks,
 
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Old 03/30/09, 11:05 AM   #3022
trangoul
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Paladin
 
Dalvengyr
I'm sorry if this has been answered, I didn't see it, but in reference to the meta builds:

Why immolate glyph over metamorphosis glyph? When I run sims the meta glyph wins out by about 80dps or so consistently. Is it counting the second cast of immolation as a full 15 second duration and thats why I am getting inflated numbers, or does it actually win out?
 
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Old 03/30/09, 1:29 PM   #3023
dann462
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Rogue
 
Ragnaros (EU)
Thank you very much Saithis and Runsel
 
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Old 03/30/09, 5:19 PM   #3024
Tonyk
Von Kaiser
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Frostmane
7.59s on Judgment? Is that with 4pc T7?
 
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Old 03/30/09, 6:00 PM   #3025
Dimento
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Human Death Knight
 
<ToG>
Thunderhorn (EU)
Originally Posted by malscent View Post
No, IIT is from Frost Fever, not Icy Touch
Doh on the brain freeze, of course it is...
 
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