lilguitarist

I recieved an infraction for saying "lol" and for having a broken shift key... hahaha! That's funny...

 

• zepi

I recommend reading / understanding the rules of the board.

EJ board is a place where moderators want to encourage quality over quantity. Capitalization and punctuation are not voluntary to keep the quality/readability of the board high and overuse of internet acronyms is also frowned upon.

EJ can be a fun place to read and post, but the fun here comes from different kind of things than on most other forums. It doesn't come from posting lolcats, icanhasvariousdifferentburgers or other internetphenomena, but from intresting posts that actually add useful an valuable information to the discussion.

Some people do actually enjoy math quiz'es, quantum physics, and breaking things appart to find out how they work. We like to break Wow appart, go trough the debrii with a fine comb and analyse every bit of it to find out how it works etc.

And no, people here are not generally elitist jerks that take enjoyment from banning / giving infraction. Our enjoyment comes from quality discussion, so we naturally want to protect the board to keep it clean and neat.

Ugh, I really made EJ'ers sound superserious. Fun just doesn't mean that we need to spice up every post with "words" like: some1, omg, lol, wtf, DDDD and whatnot. Jokes are more than welcome. Flaming is not.

edit: Someone seems to have done something really "funny" to the post above this one.

 

dcwarlord

There has been a lot of discussion in our guild regarding the effect Hit Rating has on Hunter DPS.
(All Hunters in Guild are current same spec BM)
From all accounts I have read on the web, reaching the hit cap is important to overall DPS especially when facing a lvl 73 Boss. So, we decided to test. This week in Black Temple we brought 2 Hunters with similar gear/stats. (all T6 Level Gear) We were in the same grp the whole time to make sure party buffs were not a factor.

Here is the comparison. Keep in mind this is for all BT bosses (Full Clear)

Miss counts/Percents per Recount:
Dwarf Hunter #1 - 90 Hit Rating - Miss % between 1.5% and 3% - Average Miss % = 2.3%
Dwarf Hunter #2 - 149 Hit Rating - Miss % = 0%

Hunter #1 was able to match or produce more DPS that Hunter two on all boss fights.

Both Hunters use the following macro as main DPS. If there is a better one let me know...
(Depending on fight of course as this doesnt work well for some)

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/castrandom [target=pettarget,exists] Kill Command
/castsequence reset=2/target !Auto Shot, Steady Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear();

Now, somene explain to me why they think hit rating is sooo important.
Basically he missed 2-3 shots out of every 100 taken.
Now I understand that over a long boss fight (Council or Illidan) he will miss a lot of time.

Hunter #2 has some +5 Hit and +5 Agility gems.. Hunter #1 has no hit gems All Aglity/Crit.
However, since he gems for Crit/Agility and not Hit his Crit % is higher.
So, I feel he makes up the dmg lost in hit by having a higher crit %.

This might be splitting hairs, I understand that, but it doesnt seem hit plays a LARGE factor in Hunter DPS.
Someone comment on this....

THANKS - DCWARLORD Maelstrom Server

 

Hairy

Excellent! Or incoming nerf!

 

Zensai

I have descent gear, on the fun side of DPS, on things like Shade, and RoS... I've gone from 3.9k DPS, to 4.3k DPS

But like everyone else depending on the raid, and my lock on burns, I can get 2100-2200 on Brute, and 2k+ on M'uru

 

dcwarlord

There has been a lot of discussion in our guild regarding the effect Hit Rating has on Hunter DPS.
(All Hunters in Guild are current same spec BM)
From all accounts I have read on the web, reaching the hit cap is important to overall DPS especially when facing a lvl 73 Boss. So, we decided to test. This week in Black Temple we brought 2 Hunters with similar gear/stats. (all T6 Level Gear) Both Hunters were in the same grp the whole time to make sure party buffs were not a factor.

Here is the comparison. Keep in mind this is for all BT bosses (Full Clear)

Miss counts/Percents per Recount:
Dwarf Hunter #1 36% Crti Buffed - 90 Hit Rating - Miss % between 1.5% and 3.5% depending on boss
Dwarf Hunter #2 34.25% Crit Buffed - 149 Hit Rating - Miss % = 0%

I would expect Hunter #1 to show lower dmg totals based on long boss fights.
This however was not the case. Have other hunters put less weight on Hit Rating?

 

alexandertheti

I have a fairly simple and straightforward question...

I have a S1 axe w/ mongoose, The Decapitator w/ potency, and Fool's Bane w/ Crusader.



What would be the best MH/OH combo of these three as is, and the best combo with new enchants? Im too poor to afford another mongoose atm, but i have nothing against putting Crusader on the Decap.


My guess would be Glad in MH and Fools Bane in OH (and thats how i've been doing it) but i wanted to check to be sure.

 

d3sp

Started to play 3 weeks ago, farming honor to get greens replaced by proper PvP gear, using atm standard 20/0/41 build. Reading these boards made me to consider tuning my build a little bit, so here's a question about Cheat Death vs Enveloping Shadows.

At the moment I have 3 points in CD. But my resilense is rather low - 171. Can someone clarify how does CD work on lowish resilense? And whether taking 3 points in EnSh would be more beneficial in terms of having openers placed despite consecration/aoe fear/etc?

Any advice is very welcome!

And here I am finding the answer on page 77:
[Rogue] PVP Stat Standards/advice

 

Deltrus

Could someone with access to the beta forums please ask where arcane mages/arcane blast is headed? In the current build arcane blast has extremely high dps (over 7000dps/18dpm) and is very sustainable. I'm not sure about this but it looks like every single mage build would spam arcane blast after these changes. Before arcane blast was buffed and arcane barrage was nerfed arcane looked actually fun. now arcane looks like it will be 1 button spamming since arcane blast has both higher dps and dpm than arcane barrage and missile barrage.

Most of this is based off of [Mage] WotLK Talent Preview / Discussion

Edit: Ask if firebolt will be getting a new animation so that it looks like the new fire in the utgard furnace and why they chose to have arcane mages so dependent on elementalist mages for scorch/winters chill.

 

Talbain

I'd also like a post about where Arcane is going. It started out being very refreshing and has since become very confusing. Did the Barrage co-efficient get changed back or something (or get buffed even more somehow)?

Resident Cynic
My Blog - Genesis
http://genesis.lakuuna.org

 

• Nurru

Why are you 40/0/21 with your gear? I clicked your profile because of how often your posts slant towards Arcane and it just confuses me.

19:31 <@Zyla> I fuck like a gorilla
19:31 <@Zyla> wait
19:31 <@Zyla> wrong chat room

 

Talbain

Because I like having fun? I slant towards Arcane because I've always enjoyed Arcane. I used to play the PoM builds back when Mages could insta-gib. But I played pretty much every spec, because I like playing around with stuff. For me, this game isn't about raiding or BGs or Arena or anything else really, other than fun. I like new things that make it more fun. Making Frost more and more dominant makes it boring and homogenous for PvP, and Arcane is becoming more and more homogenous with PvE being Arcane Blast spam.

Qao is not my first Mage... he's my... 6th or 7th to 70? Most of the other ones are gone for one reason or another (gave away several accounts to guild friends, one got banned for some reason I'm still not sure of).

I've seen a lot and played a lot and when you do that you tend to find unique ways to amuse yourself. I've beaten season 2 Rogues with this spec. So it's always a fun spec for me to play, because it's interesting. Especially since they can't gib the elemental (nor complain that they lost because of it later). I actually do recall beating a Warglaive Rogue before as well, though I suspect that was mostly due to lucky crits and the fact that he had no PvP gear. But hey, it's all in good fun and that's what I try to do at the moment (when Wrath comes out, I might become a little more serious again, but I haven't seriously raided since BT--and that was quite a while ago).

I feel that, since class balance amongst classes is not a priority for Blizzard, that at least internally all three specs (of any single class) should have some amount of equal footing to rest their laurels, of a sort, on.

Resident Cynic
My Blog - Genesis
http://genesis.lakuuna.org

 

Leppa

Pve love in the Air, this changes are rly nice, and the glyphs is so great

 

Havok

Agreed, I hope the JoJ fix was the extent of it.

 

Womprax

No idea if it has already been mentionen, but according to mmo-champion:
Wrath of the Lich King - Warlock - Affliction Skills

Curse of the Elements
Rank 5 78 Curses the target for 5 min, reducing Arcane, Fire, Frost, Nature, and Shadow resistances by 165 and increasing Arcane, Fire, Frost, Nature and Shadow damage taken by 10%. Only one Curse per Warlock can be active on any one target.
430 Mana, 30 yd range, Instant cast

I actually jumped around in our living room!

 

nbballer5

hey guys im creating a new account and am looking for someone to use this refer a friend feature. All you have to do is level an alt with me to 60 on malganis server and you will get a free month free and also a zhevra mount. pst if interested or email me at nbballer5@hotmail.com

 

stormstriker

didn't they remove the damage on hit part?

 

PyroTEK85

Has anyone heard about the changes to Master Conjurer that they hinted at a while back? I'm curious to see what they'll come up with, as that has been a notoriously bad talent since release.

 

testthewest

I think it's silly they brought up the Death Knight...
Raid definitly didn't need any more tanks. They also didn't need more melees. They need more healers.

I thought: they might make him a nice debuffer, a bit like the Warlock is for casters, but instead the just copy the enhancer? That poor bastard that is supposed to deal less dmg, jus because he could also skill heal!

Honestly this sucks, and I truely hope, this won't be in the final build.

 

Sprout

Can anyone in the beta comment on which glyphs are major arnd which are minor?

 

Drops

Ret paladins do good damage considering the aggro cap... but when that is not an issue, their DPS is pretty terrible.

 

ryuujin2905

hi is it possible to get a gear listing like on the resto shammy post, u know recommended gear for certain tiers. the one on the resto page helped hugely

 

Zurai

Gee, I never noticed that, despite having a level 75 death knight. Thank you for the revelation.

 

Lambi

I don't understand the wording of the living bomb spell, but it seems to me that a target of your choice becomes the living bomb making it an amazing helper for multimob tanks? Does it get affected by the mage's spellpower or the target's?

 

Sularius

ok I'm seeing all these assass/combat specs etc... I could use some advice on sub/assass specs

my char's stats are as follows

9274hp,1788 atk power, 27.5% crit, 27.96% dodge, 8% hit rating and only 222 resil
my spec is 20/0/41 can I get some advice on what to open with or any different stats thanks in advance for any replies