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04/25/09, 12:58 PM
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#3626
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Glass Joe
Troll Warrior
Grim Batol (EU)
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Heya, have read this forum now for some days trying to get perfection to my arms skills.
I have been watching some loot now from ulduar and i cant really make up my mind of what weapon i should use.
Have anyone compared Axe specc / Mace specc / Sword specc and seen how big the difference is?
I get the feeling that poleaxe still is the best choise and a really nice polearm drops from general (lotrafen).
Is the sword (voldrethar) gona be the best arms weapons since it got most dmg and stuff, or might it be the yogg-saron mace if you gain more damage with the mace specc and a slower weapons speed since all abilitys we got is based in weapon damage? Or might i simply be the polearm couse the poleaxe tallent is kickass?
Also, all our aoe skills and tallents are nice, and raises our dps alot, but still it feels wrong to only be able to do great dps if we can use bladestorm on a pack of adds or something. Are we arms warriors gona be useless on other fights without adds?
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04/25/09, 1:29 PM
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#3627
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Holy Moly
Tauren Shaman
Dentarg (EU)
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My resto UI
Mods
Action Bar: Bartender 4 w. Buttonfacade Caith
Unitframes: PitBull 3 / Grid
Tootltip: TipTop
Castbar: Quartz
Cooldown: CooldownCount
BossMod: DBM
Chat: Chatter
eePanels
TotemTimers
Satrina's BuffFrames
Feedback welcome
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04/25/09, 1:29 PM
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#3628
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Glass Joe
Gnome Death Knight
Stonemaul
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Long time reader First time poster here and i just had a quick question regarding gemming.
I was looking at some of the gear comparisons for BiS and i see almost all of them gemming ArP, should i go about regemming my gear now compleatly to ArP and neglect the Str gems in them?
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04/25/09, 2:29 PM
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#3629
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Von Kaiser
Blood Elf Mage
Zuluhed (EU)
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We had raid on thursday and i had skilled arcane first and second frostfire. It worked with focus without problems while i was frostfire.
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04/25/09, 3:27 PM
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#3630
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Glass Joe
Undead Warlock
Moonrunner
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Originally Posted by Kyruski
Your highest damage is Damage from Living bomb, meaning you didn't move out and that damage was caused to your raid. That is BAD dps... That 220,500 damage you do to your party members is 1,422 DPS added which isn't part of you actual DPS... Also you don't have 4pT7...
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Unfortunetly I do not have 4 piece of t7. Trying to aquire the last piece now. So would you recomend I go to 2h blood spec until I aquire the 4 set bonus? I just want to pump out what I used too and it seems like if I dont have the t7 bonus or the armor pen I am stuck with 2h. pluse the only 2h I have is collosal skull clad cleaver and the jawbone.
Open to sugestions and looking for help which is why I come here all the time.
thx in advance
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04/25/09, 3:46 PM
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#3631
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Glass Joe
Human Warlock
Steamwheedle Cartel
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Hi just a quick question on casts when boss/mob below 25% i noticed on the first page it is said that once mob is below 25% you should be casting immolate and using drain soul(?) so it would be haunt corrup immo d/s and refrsh until dead now with the patch if you cast immo you cant use UA so im wondering if it is a good dps boost or not.....thanks for your time p.s i still am struggling with aoe mobs my dps is terrible..ive tired many things any tips on maximising dps for aoe mobs would be great
kathyjo 
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04/25/09, 4:07 PM
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#3632
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Glass Joe
Blood Elf Priest
Drak'Tharon
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looks appealing
I think I might just check this out.
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04/25/09, 6:32 PM
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#3633
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Don Flamenco
Human Death Knight
Dragonmaw
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Can't tell you the conditions that he used but here is a parse from my thread by Fargom
Wow Web Stats
6369 DPS on XT-002. It's a 0/17/54 build that maximizes Death Coils and uses Ghoul Frenzy.
I imagine that Darkside is still sorting all the data he's being sent. That's a lot of information to sort out.
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Like an unchecked cancer, hate corrodes the personality and eats away its vital unity. Hate destroys a man's sense of values and his objectivity. It causes him to describe the beautiful as ugly and the ugly as beautiful, and to confuse the true with the false and the false with the true.
Martin Luther King Jr.
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04/25/09, 6:33 PM
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#3634
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Von Kaiser
Night Elf Druid
Bonechewer
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Originally Posted by Shizuma
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What addon are you using to track diseases/short buffs (Horn, BS, and Unholy Strength)?
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Il dolce far niente.
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04/25/09, 6:46 PM
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#3635
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Glass Joe
Undead Death Knight
Sisters of Elune
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i have a question as a meta lock what am i aiming for.
haste or crit ?
i usually run demo/ember spec, however i really wanna try meta so i was wondering at what stats i'm aiming for thanks ^^
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04/25/09, 6:47 PM
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#3636
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Warrior
Dragonblight
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Arms multi- vs. single-target
I came back to WoW right before LK came out, and I had no idea Arms at the time was supposedly bad. Well, I've always been a quester, so I always focused on AoE and multi-target spells, but now I'm beginning to do raids. There's a glyph of Cleaving, which increases Cleave to 2 additional targets instead of one. Normally, I run out of rage too quickly for Cleaving to give good DPS, but I was wondering if the Glyph of Cleaving would make it worth it for those mob fights? I'm guessing it would be better to put my talent points into rage regeneration than cleaving, and a Mortal Strike Glyph would be better than the Glyph of Cleaving...
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04/25/09, 6:57 PM
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#3637
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Womble
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Originally Posted by Plaguetongue
i have a question as a meta lock what am i aiming for.
haste or crit ?
i usually run demo/ember spec, however i really wanna try meta so i was wondering at what stats i'm aiming for thanks ^^
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At 25% crit rating (self buffed) you'll have around 90% up time on Demonic Pact as long as your raid has all of the melee buffs. Haste and crit both have similar weighting as most gear levels, haste is cheaper points per percentage. Crit and spell power both help your raid more, haste will help your personal DPS more. In general don't gem for crit.
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04/25/09, 8:39 PM
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#3638
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Glass Joe
Human Rogue
Ravencrest (EU)
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I have been running some setups on the Combat sheet.
And im kinda confused.
How good is the T7 4set bonus really for a combat rogue?
With the gear i use i have with 2set t7 bonus:
4000ap
41%crit
310hit
Expertise cap.
I get like say 6k dps on the sheet.
How ever if i swap so i use 4set t7 i get:
3850ap
38%crit
255hit
Expertise cap.
With that gear the sheet says i would get around 150dps more.
Is that really right?
Is the t7 set bonus that strong that its worth keeping ?
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04/25/09, 9:10 PM
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#3639
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Glass Joe
Undead Death Knight
Sisters of Elune
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Originally Posted by Splot
At 25% crit rating (self buffed) you'll have around 90% up time on Demonic Pact as long as your raid has all of the melee buffs. Haste and crit both have similar weighting as most gear levels, haste is cheaper points per percentage. Crit and spell power both help your raid more, haste will help your personal DPS more. In general don't gem for crit.
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question Splot what dps you put out on a boss fight i saw you gear on the armory and its kinda equal to mine so i was wondering , thanks ^^
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04/25/09, 10:54 PM
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#3640
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Glass Joe
Blood Elf Death Knight
Drak'Tharon
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Originally Posted by Sekke
What addon are you using to track diseases/short buffs (Horn, BS, and Unholy Strength)?
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That is Satrina Buff Frames setup to display certain buffs/debuffs. It's sort of like NeedToKnow, but I found that buggy and not quite what I wanted.
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04/25/09, 11:01 PM
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#3641
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Glass Joe
Human Death Knight
Thunderhorn
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The addons I use are:
Align (type /align to make a grid on your screen for positioning addons)
Aloft (custom nameplates)
Auctioneer Complete Package (Auction House and tooltip improvements)
Bartender4 (action bars)
BigWigs (boss mod)
BTex (panels for bottom of screen with nice skins)
ButtonFacade and all extra skin packs (skins for bartender and buffs etc)
Clearfont2 and extra font pack (change fonts)
Cowtip (nice tooltip mod)
DoubleWide (quest window double wide)
ErrorMonster (eliminate/redirect error msgs)
FlightMap
Gladius (arena unit frame)
Grid (raid frame)
HandyNotes (put notes on map)
HandyNotes_Guild
Lagbar
LightHeaded (quest helper)
MagicRunes (dk addon)
Mapster (better map)
MiksScrollingBattleText (scrolling combat text)
NeedToKnow (bars/timers for whatever you specify)
Omen (threat meter)
OmniCC (cooldown counter on your buttons)
oRA2 (ct_raidassist like mod)
Pitbull (unit frames)
Quartz (cast bar, swing timer etc)
RatingBuster (item level on tooltip)
Recount (damage meter and much more)
SatrinaBuffFrame (best buff frames)
SexyMap (makes your minimap sexy)
SharedMedia (more textures/fonts etc)
SharedMediaAdditionalFonts
Talented (Changes Talent Point and Glyph and allows importing/applying directly from the web)
TomTom (gps)
TrainWhistle (tells you who dropped the annoying train so you can kick them from the raid)
Xloot (Customizable loot window)
Xloot_Group (Customizable group loot window)
XRS (create bars for pertinent raid information)
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04/26/09, 12:44 AM
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#3642
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Glass Joe
Draenei Shaman
Bronzebeard
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New blood Dps spec!
I am currently running
51/10/10
My (Boss) rotation is IT,PS,DS,Pest,DCX2,DS,HSX8
My (AOE) rotation is IT,PS,DS,Pest,DCX2,DS,BBX8
i do 5k base dps on dummies, completely unbuffed.
test it out, need feed back.
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04/26/09, 1:03 AM
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#3643
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Banned
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Originally Posted by Draenak
I am currently running
51/10/10
My (Boss) rotation is IT,PS,DS,Pest,DCX2,DS,HSX8
My (AOE) rotation is IT,PS,DS,Pest,DCX2,DS,BBX8
i do 5k base dps on dummies, completely unbuffed.
test it out, need feed back.
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Your claim needs to be backed up with a screenshot of the dps and damage break down. All others who have tried this build have gotten numbers nowhere near 5k.
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04/26/09, 1:06 AM
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#3644
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Glass Joe
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You don't really go into this specifically in your post, but as of 3.1 it seems to me and I've been told by quite a few friends who also play locks that you would get the most DPS out of Demonology/Destruction build (personal preferences.)
But looking at this thread, I haven't played any build related to demonology in awhile, only affliction before 3.1
My questions are:
What's a specific rotation, as I see in your main post you only go into incinerates, DoTs, and soul fire, but where does the conflagarate play in this rotation ?
Also as I'm relatively new to this spec, my guess is the pet you would use is an imp for raids.
If you would like I would like some advice on any gear advances, here is a link to my armory:
The World of Warcraft Armory
As of right now I am really confused with the whole 3.1 patch up to now I've been using the affliction build to progress into Ulduar with my old guild, but it seems I am not putting out the maximum amount of DPS I could be.
Relatively I know these are pretty dumb questions, but wouldn't hurt to answer them.
Thanks in advance to any advice given about my gear or my questions answered.
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04/26/09, 3:46 AM
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#3645
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Von Kaiser
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Addons:

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04/26/09, 7:49 AM
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#3646
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Piston Honda
Gnome Warlock
Emerald Dream (EU)
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This is mine, SQUEAK v3:
The only part missing here due to no combat being on is that under the Shield-charges mod, and stretching from Grid to the right edge of my own frame, is Quartz.
Important mods (there's a host of tiny ones you can't see):
Bartender4
Quartz
Grid + Clique
ItemRack
kgPanels
oUF + custom oUF_SQUEAK layout
TipTac
elkBuffBars
ShieldsUp
Squeenix
Prat
The usual: oRA2, BigWigs, sThreatMeter2, Skada Damage Meter
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SQUEAK.
-- (The Death of Rats, Terry Pratchett, Soul Music)
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04/26/09, 8:39 AM
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#3647
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Glass Joe
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ty tempers and kaan for your input
it just seams the tool tip is misleading i knew that it didnt work before witht he aoedamage, but since 3.1 went live and alot of changes happened i thought maybe this might of change.
oh well back to the drawing board to find better talent points in the top tier fury tree
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04/26/09, 10:55 AM
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#3648
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by vbdotnetrulz
Hm... did u load all the new gear from wowhead, use full raid buffs, etc? Here is what gear I found to be best in slot so far:
Helm: Tier 8.5
Neck: Broach of the Wailing Night
Shoulders: Tier 8.5
Cloak: Drape of the Faceless General
Chest: Winter's Icy Embrace
Wrists: Mechanist's Bindings
Gloves: Tier 8.5
Belt: Relic Hunter's Cord
Legs: Tier 8.5
Boots: Footpad's of Silence
Ring 1: Loop of the Agile
Ring 2: Cindershard Ring
Trinket 1: Grim Toll
Trinket 2: Mjolnir Runestone
Weapon: Furious Gladiator's Greatstaff
Shred/Rip/SR glyphs.
8307 dps points as of 2.2.1
The only way I can increase the dps is by making it a BS/JC but dealing with JC gems is annoying when it comes to testing. Of course RAWR could be wrong, but it is a much better theorycrafter than I lol.
Edit: Ah I didnt see your second post sorry. I am also a little upset about the Furious staff being better than all discovered loot so far, but hopefully there will be a better staff from hardmode 
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That is not best in slot gear...........
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04/26/09, 11:17 AM
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#3649
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Glass Joe
Undead Rogue
Alexstrasza (EU)
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Hey.
Since I use an ingame Addon called "pawn" to compare items and looking out for items that are best for me on "www.lootrank.com", I need to know the AEP-Scalings for the Holy Priest.
I read the thread and I am aware that spirit, int, spellpower, crit and haste with the postet Numbers are a good goal to reach. But i'd prefer some raw Numbers. I only have the 3.0 Scalings:
* Int: 1.55
* Spirit: 2.23
* Haste: 1.26
* Crit: 0.85
* Spellpower: 1
* Mp5: 2.85
Hope someone can help me to get these stats up to date with the 3.1 live for Holy Priest.
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04/26/09, 12:29 PM
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#3650
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Vashj (EU)
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i just wanted to throw a few short questions.
i'm planning to offtank, my gear isn't that shiny... so i'm concerned about my tps, a lot. i want my spec for max tps and possibly cat (in the middle of the fight\before boss) so i can dps with the same spec (saving other spec for healing, because i might heal a bit here and there when i'm asked).
Something like this. i tried to take most important survival talent while skipping those that our mt will take (demo shout, imp. tc) and getting dps talents. unfortunately i'm very poor at math... i have almost zero idea how do i compare "king of the jungle" and "improved mangle" in terms of tps (keeping in mind i want them for cat from time to time...).
also should i skip shredding attacks (-2 rage on lacerate for 2 talent points seems not worth it for tps boost, rage is almost never an issue) or take it (actually very nice talent for cat dps).
ps. excuse me for my english, it's not my native language i might have a lot of mistakes in my post. i double checked the post thou.
pps. took imp. motw. because i love it, 40 energy isn't a lot, while imp. motw. helps in 10 mans\heroics.
Last edited by Callmesweety : 04/26/09 at 12:31 PM.
Reason: typo
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