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Old 05/15/09, 6:30 AM   #4176
Mindmoth
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Hellscream (EU)
Kologarn Felguard bug?

Situation: Felguard on arm -> arm dead -> AOE Adds-> Felguard on adds->Adds dead->Felguard stops attacting; he
wont attack the body or the arms??? he only attack adds when they spawn again after arm dead..

any1 else had this problem?
 
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Old 05/15/09, 6:37 AM   #4177
opacita
Von Kaiser
 
Human Death Knight
 
Kul Tiras
I see a lot of orcs posting their optimals, but where's the alliance love at? I'm pretty sure we only need 7% unbuffed assuming draenai racial eh?

Also, seems to me that there's not much value in going 2p T7/2p T8. From the looks of it it looks like most everyone is talking about going straight for 4 T7 to 4 T8.
 
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Old 05/15/09, 7:06 AM   #4178
larmeau
Glass Joe
 
Fuji
Troll Shaman
 
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Non-US/EU Server
i prefer mana regen in earlier patches
but now i'll choose trinkets with higher sp
 
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Old 05/15/09, 7:17 AM   #4179
 jonny
OMG Bear!
 
Tauren Druid
 
<Muk>
Ravenholdt (EU)
Is the addon going to go up on curse/wowinterface at some point?
 
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Old 05/15/09, 9:16 AM   #4180
saytr79
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Andorhal
Per GC

We are now considering capping armor penetration at 100%. Armor could no longer go negative. We're not sure if we would do this in a hotfix or in 3.1.2. We just wanted to let anyone know who is furiously trying to acquire every armor pen item in the game.

Note that there is not a not a cap on the amount of armor that can be reduced in WoW at the moment. Also note that capping armor penetration at 100% does not mean that you can always reduce every target's armor to 0%. The tooltip says "up to" for a reason.

Yes, we understand this stat can be a little confusing.
 
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Old 05/15/09, 9:50 AM   #4181
BlOoDvirE
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Night Elf Druid
 
Onyxia (EU)
thx@ night & cliff

I´ve thought about to buy runed orbs for this but now.... I spend it for the Assassin
 
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Old 05/15/09, 10:40 AM   #4182
Mmootimus
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Tauren Shaman
 
Quel'Thalas (EU)
Originally Posted by deliverance89 View Post
I just respecced to elemental from enhance due to guild needs. My gear is somewhat lower quality than most of the raid. Am I doing something wrong in my rotation or just undergeared?

WWS: WoW Meter Online - Combatlog Replay in Engrish
Armory:The World of Warcraft Armory
Your rotation seems pretty bad. In all the fights you have too many Flame Shocks cast compared to LvB. Even worse, you have Lava Bursts not critting on all 3 fights, which does show you are really failing at the basics.

Otherwise, your Relic and 1st trinket are both terrible, you have some badly enchanted gear and non-enchanted gear, you are not hitcapped (unless you are using hit food), and you have gemmed strangely (why not pick up the set bonus on legs?). The rest of your gear is also in need of some serious upgrades, but thats obviously harder to change, unlike the trinket and relic which you can improve on easily.
 
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Old 05/15/09, 1:37 PM   #4183
creturn
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warrior
 
Vek'nilash (EU)
so i have to ask this cuz i cant find it , is there a spreadsheet after the patch ? i cant find it , can u post one or link me to it ?
i have a blood dk i really wanna check a spreadsheet with the new items etc etc
 
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Old 05/15/09, 4:20 PM   #4184
Beefyfife
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Gnome Rogue
 
Sargeras
Originally Posted by Joigahdenn View Post
Edit: Posted too late. And yes there is a thread in mutilate cycles were (maybe still are) being analyzed in more depth. In-depth Mutilate Cycle Analysis. Additionally, this have been discussed pretty extensively in quite a few threads, I'd suggest using the Thread Search tool to find what you're looking for.
Thank you for posting this thread to me. Unfortunately, it does not give me the definitive answers I seek.
 
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Old 05/15/09, 4:42 PM   #4185
T.K.
Von Kaiser
 
Human Paladin
 
Auchindoun
Kaprina > Just out of curiosity...what's your axe skill at?
 
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Old 05/15/09, 6:58 PM   #4186
Megiddo
Banned
 
Undead Death Knight
 
Area 52


Just did this about 10 minutes ago with 17/51/03 BP 3 minute timer 2p t8.5 and 2p t7.5, IT glyph and rotation of IT-PS-BSx2-OB-Dump / OB-FS-Dump.
 
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Old 05/15/09, 8:33 PM   #4187
Arcanus
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Gnome Death Knight
 
Lightninghoof
Quick question-did they fix the Shadow Weaving calculation bug where you had to re-cast SW:P upon having 5 stacks?
 
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Old 05/15/09, 11:00 PM   #4188
braindancer
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Blood Elf Mage
 
Bronzebeard (EU)
I will probably get beaten till I bleed, but I'll still ask for help here as it seems to be the most appropriate thread. I have been Arcane for quite a while now, and geared up based on Rawr's recommendations. As I see that FB/TTW seems to be the highest-DPS spec at the moment, I'm looking to dual-spec into it and start learning to play it right. However, when I just switch spec in Rawr using my current gear, my DPS immediately drops by at least 300. I have enough comparable extra gear to push me up to hit cap, but I still end up about 150-200 DPS lower than Arcane - no matter how hard Rawr tries to optimize.

I assume there should be some stat that my "Arcane-inspired" gear set massively lacks. However, I was always going after SP and haste, and this thread claims that these are biggest deal for FB/TTW as well. So what's wrong with me? Which stat(s) should I start farming to create a gear set that will push TTW over arcane?

Here's my armory. Thanks in advance for any tips that would facilitate this transition.
 
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Old 05/16/09, 12:08 AM   #4189
Feyda
Von Kaiser
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Area 52



20/51/0

IT IT PS OB BS FS FS FS -> IT IT FS OB BS IT FS FS FS

UP, XT Sigil, 2-piece T8, 2-piece T7

~10 minute parse

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Old 05/16/09, 12:20 AM   #4190
pixul
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Bleeding Hollow
Hey guys, im pretty new to the rogue class, so please excuse me if this question has all ready been answered, i tried searching for it but could not find it. Looking at the BIS list, all red slots are filled with +16 agi gems. Is there a reason that the +16 agi gems are used over the +32 AP gems. And if so what is that reason?
 
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Old 05/16/09, 1:50 AM   #4191
valeriuskane
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Nordrassil
WTF is wrong with my Lock???

OK sorry to say that this post will seem noobish since i have been away from Lock raiding for months and am not sure of new class mechanics and specs based on gear. Yes i know it's affliction or destro/demo but with current gear and sp i am only doing like 2k max dps....WTF??? My locks name is Xadarina on the Kilrogg server. I know the basics as far as what to take based on your spec...i.e Destro - Sp>Crit>Hit>Haste....Afflic - Hit>SP>Haste>Crit etc. Can anyone please check out my toon and spec and tell me where i may be screwing her up!!!! I would really appreciate the feedback from anyone that wants to give it the time. Sorry for being a noob and needing some help but this site is the shiz for info so figured I would give it a shot. Thanks in advance for any help!!!

For reference i use this spell rotation as of now with 3/13/55......Immo/Chaos/Corrup/CoA/Conflag/SB fill until 30% then Drain Soul...rinse and repeat. Aagain sorry for being a lock noob but the worst question to ask is the one you don't IMHO. Thanks all.


PS - Should i be afflic with current gear??? Would be happy to link armory tag but not sure how on these forums....too long away from coding and html

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Old 05/16/09, 1:52 AM   #4192
GBF
Von Kaiser
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Feyda View Post

20/51/0

IT IT PS OB BS FS FS FS -> IT IT FS OB BS IT FS FS FS

UP, XT Sigil, 2-piece T8, 2-piece T7

~10 minute parse
Seems complicated, once you get it down it works well. I got good results duplicating this, though you might want to mention the Blood Tap at the start. You worked a lot on this rotation, I can tell. I'll be trying this in my upcoming Ulduar raid sunday, it got as good results on the dummy as the 17/51/3 rotation with the dual icy touches for the deathrunes in the second half. Yours on the other hand has no wasted GCDs, I find myself waiting to start the second half of that rotation everytime, so we'll see I guess!

edit: After more testing, I'm liking this setup even more. The extra icy touches mean there is rarely if ever a wasted GCD, and my damage output once again has frost strike at 45-46% of my damage, melee at 18%, and Icy Touch at about 12% each. Thanks for doing the work to create this rotation!

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Old 05/16/09, 4:32 AM   #4193
Enigma422
Glass Joe
 
Undead Warlock
 
Whisperwind
To lazy to look up your armory, but you got some things wrong. First in terms of stats Hit > all until hit capped > SP > Haste > Crit for all specs. It is the weight of each stat that differs for the different specs.

Your rotation is completely wrong. You seem to be confusing the affliction and destruction rotation. Destruction is built around fire damage as there are a crap ton of fire damage talents in the destruction tree assuming you followed the standard deep destro build. Your starting rotation should then be:

CoD -> Immo -> Conflag (Backdraft proc) -> CB -> Inc -> Inc

Then its a matter of watching CDs and prioritizing spells during backdraft. Priority being:
1. Immolate if it needs to be refreshed
2. CB
3. Inc

There are two threads in this forum you should check out if you need more help on specs and rotations
PVE Raiding Compendium V3.1
Simulationcraft on post 3.1 specs
 
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Old 05/16/09, 5:15 AM   #4194
valeriuskane
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Nordrassil
Thanks Enigma. I did read the other forums just thought maybe i missed something. This is a sad case of listening to ppl that THINK they know what they are doing since this build and rotation was from someone who thinks they are leet. I did not think they were even close but hey that is what elitist jerks and ppl that know what they are doing is for.
 
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Old 05/16/09, 7:29 AM   #4195
hogedzabar
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Tauren Shaman
 
Lightbringer (EU)
hi, just wanted to add the new hotfix for Lightning Overload its now 11/22/33%
 
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Old 05/16/09, 7:53 AM   #4196
Dellas
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Rajaxx (EU)
Originally Posted by Prinsesa View Post
Apparently Blizzard is considering giving us Prot another tanking cooldown. This would seem to go a long way towards catching us up to all the other tanks and making the Glyph of Salvation less mandatory, depending on what the effect turns out to be.

Here's hoping it's not something like a souped-up Divinity: Increases healing done to you by 50% for 12 seconds.
Well I think it's gonna be something in this direction:
Increases your blockvalue by 300% for 15 sec.
So that all palas have to go for BlockV for being worth it -.-
 
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Old 05/16/09, 8:04 AM   #4197
Panadys
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Mal'Ganis (EU)
back to JC again

I'd like to figure out some data about how many blue gems come out of one stack ore. Especially I am still up to the opinion that equipment, spec and buffs got an influance to your - lets call it - gem rate. I would be pleased if some of you got detailed data concerning this.

Like in TBC there is a felt (estimated) rate of one rare gem per ore stack (i.e. 4 times prospecting - please forgive me if this isn't the right word).
Trying to find this out I bought yesterday 91.5 stacks saronite ore and started prospecting for half an hour.

91.5 stacks saronite ore (366 times prospecting) gave me 99 rare gems. Wich means a gem rate of 1.081967213 per stack saronite ore.


Now to the point of interest. I prospected those stacks with my elemental shaman spec in my restoration gear with totems and weapon of the flamethounge alway up.

As far as I found in former prospecting sessions 1.08 is a quite good gem rate. This leads me to the thought that +crit rate has an influence to prospecting.

In 1 or 2 weeks (after selling all those gems cutted) I will start the next prospecting session with other gear and spec an without totems and buffs. I expect a lower gem rate. If you figured something out about this please provide me with the data. I will keep updating mine.


note: I am not an natural englisch speaker. So please forgive me if you find some errors and misswritings in here. (Thank you Tel for the rigth vocabular.)

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Old 05/16/09, 8:11 AM   #4198
Tel
Don Flamenco
 
Night Elf Death Knight
 
Kazzak (EU)
Originally Posted by Panadys View Post
Wierd Stuff
Wowhead.com has all the information you need. Prospecting (not Fathoming ?) isnt influenced by gear or stats or what phase of the moon it is. It's random.

Edit: To back this up with a bit of anecdotal data. I've prospected on my DK JC character over 7000 stacks of ore. My data almost entirely matches with that of wowhead/thottbot. The only difference is that my monarch topaz drop rate is 5% higher than expected. Thats RNG for you i guess
 
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Old 05/16/09, 8:14 AM   #4199
adrock
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Frostmourne
Holdir has been hotfixed so he no longer breaks the rare cache after flash freeze if he has been killed.

Care of This blue post on one of the complaint threads.
 
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Old 05/16/09, 8:27 AM   #4200
Niug
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
<XW>
Neptulon (EU)
Originally Posted by adrock View Post
Holdir has been hotfixed so he no longer breaks the rare cache after flash freeze if he has been killed.

Care of This blue post on one of the complaint threads.
We know that, that was a fix to prevent people who killed him in under 3 minutes but had him stay alive longer because he was channelling flash freeze from failing hard mode. What's being discussed is the erroneous awarding of hard mode loot / achievement to guilds who are killing him in 6-7 minutes which is now happening after this fix has been applied.
 
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