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Old 05/16/09, 8:56 AM   #4201
Joshyboy
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Human Death Knight
 
Silvermoon (EU)


Its nothing fancy, and pretty cluttered.
But It does everything I want It to, you can't see too well but I use "NeedToKnow" to track all of my diseases and procs.
 
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Old 05/16/09, 10:30 AM   #4202
pa4eto
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Orc Hunter
 
Executus (EU)
According to the provided information and long discussions (please keep in mind that I am just recently lvling druid), I have few impressions myself:
- Druid mainly heals with HoTs but still got few nice healing spells that might negate a decend damage
- As far as I can see there are pretty much all kind of tactics here but is there a specific reason why someone should go on Haste rather than Crit (through Int, CR) or HP (through Spirit and SP)?

I am doing pretty much all the healing in lets say mid-level instances (from around 40 to now, 63 lvl) and my impressions are that druid is rather not depended on Haste bonus. This is the reason I have also neglected CF as possibility (just waste of talent points there), however, might be wrong (never healed in raids or hc parties as all of you) but my typical impression can be concluded here:

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?drui...4&version=9901

Most of you mentioned Innervate glyph but since Nourish seems the main healing spell due to fast cast time (besides the contantly active HoTs as Rejuv, WG and LB), I really do not see reason why you should have Innervate glyph at all.
In case of more total dmg on tank/party member, I can cast one HT if all HoTs are already present.

Up to now, I was able to heal all party even with huge amount of damage taken (as backup spell I have Tranq which really fixes situation when party is nearly killed). Mostly, there are pretty much DKs, pallys and ench shammy/warr as dps dealers as these levels (instances are pretty easy BF, ramps, UB, MT, SP). It seems that most helpful is WG spell and most of the total healing is from Regrowth (which will be replace by LB at lvl 64 suppose). I have no problems with mana at all (still I use Innervate when not on CD).

I guess in raids, hcs you are not able to use HT as possible spell due to cast time but still it might be pretty useful in case it has 2/2 Empowered Touch instead of 2/3 Revitalize.

However, I am not pretty sure but trying to level as fast as possible and check the situation myself. Any suggestions or hints will be much appreciatet. Thanks
 
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Old 05/16/09, 10:41 AM   #4203
Bereadytodie
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It wont let me quote for some reason but this is a reply to braindancer (post #457):
The first thing I noticed when checking out your armory is that your crit is VERY low, probably low enough to make HS procs inconsistent.
 
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Old 05/16/09, 12:02 PM   #4204
Arthurios
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Current gears and specs after patch3.1(.1)

Gentlemen,

I am new to PVP and I was wondering where shall I go.

Set-up is Retri Pala plus DK plus Diszi PVP. We just started and with about 90 games came out 30:70 loosing. I always end up face down first no matter what and the only way we won was when I prolonged my dying.

So question is - I am aiming for 800 resilience at the moment, I do understand that blessed resilience and therelike do not make sense in there any more with this amount of resilience. But my throughput sucks, if I am focus then only the pally shield keeps me alive for he couple of seconds that need my colleagues to take down the opponents healer and if they achive we usually win, if I die earlier and they start to get some damage we quickly die, with the exception of the DK which seem to be extremely resilient to dying even if not geared very well.

So where should I be going?

Thanks a lot.

Cheers

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Old 05/16/09, 1:22 PM   #4205
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I just wanted to thank you for all the great information you have provided. I will be putting it to use as soon as I log on.

Thanks

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I just wanted to thank you for all the great information you have provided. I will be putting it to use as soon as I log on.

Nice boots I to am not in a high end raiding guild but would sure like to get my hands on thoughs boots : )

Yes I would have to agree, Enthorn has done sosme outstand work and Im sure many of us have gained from it. Thanks again.
 
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Old 05/16/09, 2:58 PM   #4206
tezen
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With all the new changes and whatnot, what are the New BIS for feral cat then? I am trying to figure out what I should be going for.
 
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Old 05/16/09, 3:06 PM   #4207
meeya
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Guys, what do u think about this spec to Ulduar?
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
 
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Old 05/16/09, 3:17 PM   #4208
blitzseed
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Anvilmar
Originally Posted by meeya View Post
Guys, what do u think about this spec to Ulduar?
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
I think a spec like this has been talked about before in older posts if you go back i think you will find it. I will look for it if i have time.

Update, Found some stuff about it on page 16 post 396 and page 21 post 511 may want to read them and look for follow up posts.

Last edited by blitzseed : 05/16/09 at 3:36 PM.
 
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Old 05/16/09, 3:21 PM   #4209
Boevis
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You should read the first post of this thread, and/or download Rawr, and/or input your stats into Toskks.
 
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Old 05/16/09, 3:44 PM   #4210
Longear
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Retri Paladin :-s

hey, culd use some helpo with my Retri paladin. he's lvl 80 now, but i have not played with him for some time now, n now i forgot hw to use him

Any one that can help me with rotaion, Tallents n glyphs?


The World of Warcraft Armory
 
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Old 05/16/09, 4:02 PM   #4211
Alihexx
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Orc Death Knight
 
Anetheron (EU)
Why don't just skill like this Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft We benefit from haste and our pets too.
So the Question is: Is the damage that 20 % haste does , equal to the damage that Wandering Plague does?
 
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Old 05/16/09, 4:04 PM   #4212
tezen
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Korialstrasz
Does it take into account the armor penn changes?
 
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Old 05/16/09, 4:05 PM   #4213
Arvien
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Undead Death Knight
 
Ragnaros (EU)
Originally Posted by Alihexx View Post
Why don't just skill like this Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft We benefit from haste and our pets too.
So the Question is: Is the damage that 20 % haste does , equal to the damage that Wandering Plague does?
Icy Talons doesn't stack with a totem that enhancement shamans bring. Also your build is missing ghoul..? So no, that spec doesn't seem any good.
 
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Old 05/16/09, 4:26 PM   #4214
braindancer
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Originally Posted by Bereadytodie View Post
It wont let me quote for some reason but this is a reply to braindancer (post #457):
The first thing I noticed when checking out your armory is that your crit is VERY low, probably low enough to make HS procs inconsistent.
That's true, thanks. I did spec into it yesterday and did some practice dummy tests, and I hardly get any procs at all.

On a bigger picture, I realized that "relative stat value" differs heavily depending on what gear you have. It is normally considered that haste > crit for TTW, but that is based on an assumption of close-to-BIS gear set. For me, crit is still > haste, and also mp5 seems to be a huge problem - Rawr thinks I'll get starved even in a raid-buffed environment.

Anyway, thanks for your help. Off to farm crit, int and mp5.
 
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Old 05/16/09, 4:30 PM   #4215
Aieda
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Originally Posted by Longear View Post
hey, culd use some helpo with my Retri paladin. he's lvl 80 now, but i have not played with him for some time now, n now i forgot hw to use him

Any one that can help me with rotaion, Tallents n glyphs?


The World of Warcraft Armory
Start out by going to the paladin forums instead and post there.. this is the hunter forums mate.
 
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Old 05/16/09, 4:31 PM   #4216
Swindley
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Originally Posted by braindancer View Post
Anyway, thanks for your help. Off to farm crit, int and mp5.
I would strongly suggest avoiding mp5 even if you're mana starved. Intellect and spirit will serve you better. Intellect is a better mana regeneration stat than mp5 because of replenishment and evocation, and both give some crit as well.

Though I'd just suggest upgrading gear normally and not worry too much about mana regeneration at all. It will improve with higher itemlevel gear which has natural higher int levels. You'll also probably pick up some decent gear with spirit anyway. (tier gear and a few others)
 
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Old 05/16/09, 4:36 PM   #4217
Hippolyta
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Bloodscalp
Using the UP it ps bs bs ob fs fs ob it it ob fs fs fs rotation I've been using UA without blood tap, as it normally royally screws with an already tight rotation. So when UA is off cooldown it looks like this:

it ps bs bs ob fs fs ob it ua ob fs fs fs

The rotation in action:



I normally save deathchill for when UA and FC are up, and try to time it so I get at least one below 35% on bosses.
 
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Old 05/16/09, 5:30 PM   #4218
Longear
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hey, culd use some helpo with my Retri paladin. he's lvl 80 now, but i have not played with him for some time now, n now i forgot hw to use him

Any one that can help me with rotaion, Tallents n glyphs?
 
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Old 05/16/09, 7:43 PM   #4219
Malarkey
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Kalecgos
You could actually read this thread, or at least the first post in this thread. Heaven forbid you do some homework on your own!
 
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Old 05/16/09, 11:11 PM   #4220
Crazed
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Thank you for clearing that up for me Aldriana and Joigahdenn.

I'll stick to the gemming for agility, looking forward to having 4/5 Tier 8 and a decent amount of ArP, hopefully I can net most of the gear I want before 3.1.2 hits so I can have a taste of the current Armor Penetration too.
 
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Old 05/16/09, 11:15 PM   #4221
elduende
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Undead Rogue
 
Terenas
hit rating

I wanna know how many hit rating i need to have for pvp cause i am missing alot of attacks an if u guy can give me some tips about what should i do when i duel resto druids
 
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Old 05/16/09, 11:40 PM   #4222
Higinia
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Burning Blade
Are there any frost 2h dps macros for frost strike and obliterate?
 
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Old 05/16/09, 11:43 PM   #4223
 Darkside
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Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Higinia View Post
Are there any frost 2h dps macros for frost strike and obliterate?
What do you mean?

<Sovereignty> no there's a 100% chance her vagina will be a bear trap verify first
 
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Old 05/17/09, 12:00 AM   #4224
Chaggi
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Human Rogue
 
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Originally Posted by elduende View Post
I wanna know how many hit rating i need to have for pvp cause i am missing alot of attacks an if u guy can give me some tips about what should i do when i duel resto druids
Proper spelling and sentence structure does help too.

You need 5% hit to not miss normally in PvP. Some classes have talents that raise this cap a bit, but the hard rule is 5%. Some people go higher, some people go lower. You should at the very least, be at 5%. That's around 164? Or 166? Hit rating. I don't remember exactly.

A Druid that's can roll HoTs is pretty much unkillable by a single Rogue. My suggestion is stack as many things as possible and pressure at proper times. I open up with Garrote, Mutilate, Rupture, Mutilate, SnD, and let my energy build up. And then CB Evis when low. I don't think there really is a set in stone strategy, but feel as you go.
 
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Old 05/17/09, 12:04 AM   #4225
Higinia
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Burning Blade
frost 2h dps macros for putting my diseases up and then bsx2 and my obliterate / fs
my rotation goes
it ps bs bs obl fs fs obl it it obl fs fs fs
 
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