Thread of Ultimate Suck - Page 171

samisami · 05/17/09, 10:46 PM

Im just curious wich one of these weapons is theoretically more dps for an enhancement shaman as a mainhand; Insanity's Grip or Vulmir, the northern tempest?
They are the same itemlevel and speed but Vulmir has 325-605 weapon damage and Grip has 372-558.

Falcon213 · 05/18/09, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by samisami

Im just curious wich one of these weapons is theoretically more dps for an enhancement shaman as a mainhand; Insanity's Grip or Vulmir, the northern tempest?
They are the same itemlevel and speed but Vulmir has 325-605 weapon damage and Grip has 372-558.

Actual weapon damage make no difference in PvE (as they will average out to the same damage). If you are saving up DKP for one or the other though, I'd highly recommend Vulmir since it can be swapped to the off-hand later.

phizzyj · 05/18/09, 1:15 AM

i was wondering if anyone would give me some tips on what i need to replace first, i just hit 80 like 3 days ago and well, im having a little trouble figuring out what items i need to go for first. here is my armory, please dont laugh.

The World of Warcraft Armory

Artamier · 05/18/09, 1:53 AM

Yes I have been messing around with a few of the Blood Spec's. I'm am normally 2H Frost and it seems the spec doesn't do as well as it use to. I have been playing around with all the different spec of Blood. 51/0/21 seems like a decent spec pushing about 2800 2900 dps unbuffed on a Heroic target dummy.

51/2/18 is the current spec i am using for blood. The 2 points into Frost is for Runic Power Mastery. The reason for this is it gives me the extra 30 RP. IT lets me get a 3rd DC off on my RP dump. Which i find to be a jump in the Dps overall. I am using the Dark Death glyph. In that little change of spec, I normally set at about 2950 3000k Dps average on the heroic target dummy. This is just my input on the 51/2/18 spec

Touarex · 05/18/09, 2:10 AM

Originally Posted by Kaubel

Why do you people keep posting recount screenshots, thinking it's helping anyone?

Fucking DKs.

Thanks man.

This is one of the best replies in here, my dps just went up 2k....Awesome post!!

cerodon · 05/18/09, 5:13 AM

Thank you guys this article is very helpful...
Keep up the good work!

Watau · 05/18/09, 8:01 AM

hi,
ive resently got my hands on Razer Lachesis mouse.
binded "alt" and "shift" to left mouse side.
working seems go "randomly". when i press alt on mouse and press 1 on keyboard
goes like "1, 1, alt+1, alt+1, 1, 1, 1, alt+1, etc"... maybe some of u got same or similar problem
and know where i should look for a fix?

mouse buttons works properlty. ive binded numbers to those buttons and tryed type with those - works great.

evodk · 05/18/09, 8:15 AM

Ok so i need help im 51/0/21. armory link The World of Warcraft Armory
ive done almost all the bosses in ulduar n my best dps is around 3.5k the rotation i use is IT PS HS HS DS Rune Dump DS HS HS HS HS Rune Dump. i would like to know a rotation for bosses 1 target rotations. if its possible thank you.

jvlk · 05/18/09, 9:21 AM

I rolled a dk unholy from the beginning and recently turned 80, Main is a healer so this was something different for me.
But I need some help with my dps, I see dk's doing around 3300-4000 dps on for example emalon in voa i'm doing barely 2000-2100 dps on single targets with my rotation will t7.5 be so much of a difference?
I'm still doing hc's with this dk to gear up and I can reach around 3000-3500 damage on trash pull with aoe rotation....but that number will drop rapidly when i get to a single target boss and at the end of dungeon I level out at 2200 dps overall damage.
Also on boss dummy I reach 2100 dps constant which I think is pretty low, bare with me I'm still pretty new with dk's etc but I was expecting some more dps.
So any tips for me gear wise or rotation help?

My specs and roations are

The World of Warcraft Armory

Single targets
IT-PS-BS-BS-UB-SS-SS-SS-DCx2 and if glyph of ss process I just use BS-SS-UB-DC etc

AoE rotaion is
DnD-IT-PS-Pest-UB-BB-SS-SS-BB-DCx2

Delysid · 05/18/09, 10:09 AM

Hello can i make higth DPS with macro

/castrandom Whirlwind, Bloodthirst, Heroic Strike; and use Slame when got a buff.
/startatack

my stats unbuffed:
AP: 4563
Hit: 441
Crt: 30%
Ex: 26

or this marcro is useless?

Passover · 05/18/09, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Passover

I tried to test my DPS output on a training dummy (In UC, Alone) and also to test rotations, I tried 3 Rotations over 3.5minutes each set and not using Dispersion or Shadowfiend Each time my DPS Peaked @ 2535 DPS (Recount) with only Inner Fire Buffed on me.
Being in Naxx/Maly/Uld10 man gear i was a little disappointed, so i figure 'I know what - I'll completely buff myself' - so i popped on Fort/SPR and Inner fire and ate some Crit food, tried the 3 rotations again, with no changes but the buffs.
My DPS went DOWN by 110 to 2425 DPS.. I couldnt figure what the hell was wrong, so i redone them and focused on the most natural rotation of VT > SW;P > MB > DP > MF > MB > SW;P and so on.. (the one im most confident of maintianing high uptime on and by rotation i mean 'Opening sequence') which i did 3 times again. Still 2.4..
So i click off all the buff's and re-buff inner fire and go again - 2.5k
Perplexed i fully re-buffed but this time ate SP food and set off again 3 times 2.4...

Now call me silly but, when you *Buff* yourself shouldn't you get stronger and not weaker?
Is there something inherent in the training dummies that means they dont give good feedback?
Am i the only experiencing this issue? Should i be worried? Should i not be paying attention to them at all?

Should my DPS be higher based on my gear set? Here is my last 10 Ulduar WWS Results - Avengelyne's Report with an overall 2.6 this is incrediably low - unfortunately i cant link my armory as i got upgrades from that run but we are back 2 moro night and i can record those for you guys and link my armory to go with it.
Any info or insight would be apprieciated - i'm getting rather frustrated overall - Going to Naxx 25 in Naxx 25 gear and getting a 4.6k DPS on Patchwerk then going again with a mix of Ulduar 10/25 and Naxx 25 gear and barely being able to reach 4k flat let alone 4.6k is really disconcerting..

Anyone else noticed an Overall drop, not just us but every caster, in DPS since Patch 3.1? Or is it just me?

Little help lol?

Delysid · 05/18/09, 11:02 AM

Can some1 whrite a macro with a castsequence, for fury build? how u thinking? marcro for hight dps is better or not? and can sone1 whrite full rotation with all cycle?

Niightblade · 05/18/09, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by jvlk

stuff.

This is not the place to ask for help. You're expected to read and work it your for yourself.

Try: Death Knight: Simple Questions/Simple Answers

Delysid · 05/18/09, 11:29 AM

Thak you very much guys what are you thinking about this program Rawr - Home is it true?

seridosgunner · 05/18/09, 11:40 AM

thankyou

VicieusLH · 05/18/09, 12:54 PM

Can someone calculate the damage/dps/gear weight of:

4PT8 w/ Leggings of the Wanton spellcaster.
(not including hard mode ulduar gear. 2D gear included)

Helm: [Conqueror's Deathbringer Hood]
Neck: [Pendant of Fiery Havoc]
Shoulders: [Conqueror's Deathbringer Shoulderpads]
Chest: [Conqueror's Deathbringer Robe]
Gloves: [Conqueror's Deathbringer Gloves]
Belt: [Sash of Ancient Power]
Legs: [Leggings of the Wanton Spellcaster]
Feet: [Spellslinger's Slippers]
Weapon: [Soulscribe]
Offhand: [Ironmender]
Wand: [Quartz Crystal Wand]
Cloak: [Pennant Cloak]
Wrist: [Bracers of Unleashed Magic]
Ring: [Pyrelight Circle]
Ring: [Signet of Manifested Pain]
Trinket: [Illustration of the Dragon Soul]
Trinket: [Eye of the Broodmother]

371 hit

I really hate getting the T8.5 Gloves, but I would hate not using the Leggings of the Wanton Spellcaster I spent DKP on, even more.

Maybe do some other itterations on the same basic gear setup:
(wanton+T8.5 4 set) with the hard mode BISs.
2PT8 (chest and shoulders) with BISs

Thanks in advance.

Koose · 05/18/09, 1:43 PM

Thank you Vegaz,

That was what I was doing wrong.

Koose

littlejim · 05/18/09, 2:02 PM

sounds good. thanks.

hospss · 05/18/09, 2:26 PM

hello every one, my main right now is my pally but used to be my lock. i'm looking to hit 80 soon on my lock. i'm in a toss abought best dps spec right now i'm 55/0/12 i would like to stay afflic if it's still a good dps.I know there has been high discution abought what i beleave is demo ruin spec how should i go and what cast rotaion should i use.

grb · 05/18/09, 3:34 PM

with 40/31 sometimes i can make 3k dps...
bu other times can't reach 2.5 ... can you plz say what is the best and more easy rotation for this spec ? ty

lavis · 05/18/09, 3:59 PM

Originally Posted by VicieusLH

Can someone calculate the damage/dps/gear weight of:

4PT8 w/ Leggings of the Wanton spellcaster.
(not including hard mode ulduar gear. 2D gear included)

Helm: [Conqueror's Deathbringer Hood]
Neck: [Pendant of Fiery Havoc]
Shoulders: [Conqueror's Deathbringer Shoulderpads]
Chest: [Conqueror's Deathbringer Robe]
Gloves: [Conqueror's Deathbringer Gloves]
Belt: [Sash of Ancient Power]
Legs: [Leggings of the Wanton Spellcaster]
Feet: [Spellslinger's Slippers]
Weapon: [Soulscribe]
Offhand: [Ironmender]
Wand: [Quartz Crystal Wand]
Cloak: [Pennant Cloak]
Wrist: [Bracers of Unleashed Magic]
Ring: [Pyrelight Circle]
Ring: [Signet of Manifested Pain]
Trinket: [Illustration of the Dragon Soul]
Trinket: [Eye of the Broodmother]

371 hit

I really hate getting the T8.5 Gloves, but I would hate not using the Leggings of the Wanton Spellcaster I spent DKP on, even more.

Maybe do some other itterations on the same basic gear setup:
(wanton+T8.5 4 set) with the hard mode BISs.
2PT8 (chest and shoulders) with BISs

Thanks in advance.

chardev.org v6 ~ a World of Warcraft character planner

A few notes about gear that I have noticed (I'm leaving out hard mode loot)... While [Soulscribe] is good more people will want it for being a dagger. Getting the [Runescribed Blade] is much easier and seeing that both aren't BiS (gg algalon) you will always have something to shoot for. Ironically since the days of MC staffs are fairly competition again most notably [The Lifebinder].

The weak teir pieces comparable to other gear seem to be the helm and legs. I acquired the gloves because hard mode loot is the only loot that could potentially replace it, but this isn't the case with the T8 helm or legs.

[Scale of Fates] is a viable trinket if you get terrible RNG on brood and it's only ~10 dps lower.

I myself am looking at a gear set like this: chardev.org v6 ~ a World of Warcraft character planner

Ormack · 05/18/09, 4:24 PM

Your right, Sorry need to slow down a bit today.

b1ack0ut3 · 05/18/09, 4:24 PM

Originally Posted by Ormack

Your right, Sorry need to slow down a bit today.

No worries... It's Monday

Hippie · 05/18/09, 5:15 PM

Has anyone done a new BiS list for 3.1.2 since the change to t7 will make it worse than t8?

elchuchopisado · 05/18/09, 6:35 PM

Here is my UI. took a while to configure but i finally got it to my liking. Everything is easy to see and well laid out IMO.

and yes i have moved the pitbull frames in a little because i realized that the target one was covering my buffs a little so that has been fixed. other than that this is how i PvP/Raid. lemme know what you think

omen is situated right next to the chat box which is why there is a little blank there where i put the panel using kgpanels.

25 man raid: