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08/07/09, 4:54 PM
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#6676
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Glass Joe
Blood Elf Mage
Magtheridon
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Meta Gem
So I been using the +21 crit rating, +3 CSD (chaotic skyflare diamond) forever now and just began to question continued use of it. The 25 spellpower, 2% intel (ember skyflare diamond) seems pretty good for an arcane mage. 25 spellpower outweighs 21 crit rating (especially for an arcane mage), and 2% intel gives more crit % and spellpower with arcane talents. ALSO the ember skyflare diamond works with 3 red gems, so this allows one to drop purified dreadstones (spellpower/spirit) gems and add more runed cardinal rubies (you gain 22 more spellpower!). So does the 3% critical strike damage bonus outweigh the benefits of the ember skyflare? I would love to see some math done on this or if there is, send me a link! Thanks!
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08/07/09, 5:03 PM
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#6677
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Von Kaiser
Blood Elf Mage
Twisting Nether
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I agree that +spell power outweights +crit. That is hands down for arcane.
However, the second part is what makes CSD superior, not only because +3% crit dmg stacks with talents (+50% dmg) and AM glyph, but also, in order to make +2% int outweight the sustained dmg requires far more int than we can gather (some math made at the general mage thread indicated +4000 int)
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08/07/09, 6:19 PM
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#6678
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Glass Joe
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Anyone have thoughts on Yogg , post-nerf? How much easier is the fight now?
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08/07/09, 7:21 PM
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#6679
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Tauren Warrior
Bronzebeard
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Agreed. HS is ok before 20%.....but it simply works off an auto attack...whereas spamming execute gives you an instant attack..And if you're geared enough to do enough damage....well then you can spam to your heart's content.
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08/07/09, 8:17 PM
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#6680
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Banned
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Okay.. couple of questions here.
1) EPs.. im confused and it looks like theory crafting is out of date? Im gonna be honest and just say it - im lost after running numerous sims. cant get a consistent feel.
2) gemming priorities. right now im AP > haste >anything else and specifically gemming for AP and stacking haste.
3) is there a haste cap/is there a way to know if you are gemming too much haste. is there a goal at which there is negative returns?
4) crit. my crit is just over 30%, can go under a tad with cloak i switch out of tank and spank fights. how important is crit? Should I be stacking more crit until about 32% or so?
thanks in advance.
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08/07/09, 8:27 PM
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#6681
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Glass Joe
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awesome i see what you are saying now. Thanks for the info.
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08/07/09, 11:06 PM
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#6682
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Solitaire
With all the ArP floating around will it be worth gemming for as Mutilate with 3.2 gear? Or, lacking the T8 4p bonus, will AP become better for gemming than agility?
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Definite no, probably.
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08/07/09, 11:24 PM
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#6683
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Glass Joe
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What are the best 2 DPS professions with 3.2? Is there a ballpark AEP for each profession? I want to know for sure before ditching alchemy. Thanks.
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08/07/09, 11:29 PM
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#6684
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new MM hunter
Guys.....I am very sorry if I sound like I do not know much about hunter spec....I do...just confused on some aspects of raiding (new to me )
I am new to raiding and I do not undestand the following: or i am looking for help
1. I dont undestand the rotation on MM build I am currently 7/57/7
2. The rotation calls for Serpent, Silence, Rapid, Chimera, Kill, Aimed, Berserker, readiness, steady
3. Is the above rotation correct? does it make sense?
4. if the rotation is correct how do I implemented into a boss fight? macros? do I have to wait for the last tick on any particular shot?
I need all the help that you are willing to offer me....
Thank you in advance ...........................
I was looking at Zeel post and his macros.....................are they correct?
how do you use those macros in a boss fight/
which build is better since I do not have top gear yet....mostly my gear is from 10 man naxx.
I am very new to raiding...so anything on how to start to what do to in the middle until the boss dies to keep and max my dps will help
including macros or rotation
thank so you much guys
Last edited by destruktora : 08/07/09 at 11:46 PM.
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08/08/09, 12:12 AM
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#6685
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King Hippo
Night Elf Rogue
Gorgonnash
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Originally Posted by bankyz
What are the best 2 DPS professions with 3.2? Is there a ballpark AEP for each profession? I want to know for sure before ditching alchemy. Thanks.
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Read Incoming Rogue Changes Discussion
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08/08/09, 4:40 AM
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#6686
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Undead Rogue
Die Todeskrallen (EU)
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SR or GSS in MH/OH?
Hi,
my rogue is mutilate but I only have two high dps weapons available, SR and GSS. Which one should I use in my OH (SR seems a little too slow with 1.8 speed)?
My wow-armory link is here (Playing on EU-.Server):
The World of Warcraft Armory
Thx in adv.
Ash
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08/08/09, 6:44 AM
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#6687
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I Was just thinking i know alot of people use desktops and i see huge UI SS's and i was just wondering do you have to have a big screen to fit all of those mods down there?
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08/08/09, 7:46 AM
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#6688
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Glass Joe
Draenei Death Knight
Das Syndikat (EU)
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Ok so now ive socketed a bit of Armorpen. With the new Trinket i come around 440. Which is fine by me. Now unfortunatly last night this dropped for me in the new 10-man instance.
Item: Girdle of the Impaler :: World of Warcraft :: Allakhazam.com
If i would use it my expertise would drop from 21 to 16. Furthermore i lose a lot of crit. Positive thing is I get a bit of hast and a lot of Armorpen, which means I can socket 3x 20 Strength again and maybe another one in the new girdle. I know it sais that expertise is never as worthy as strenght. But I am a little bit afraight. So does one of you guys really raid with expertise below 20?
Did it worked out for you? Or are there too many dodges?
Moreover i couldnt find if expertise acts like hit. I mean before you are hit capped hit is > strength. Does this apply for expertise either?
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08/08/09, 10:40 AM
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#6689
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Glass Joe
Gnome Death Knight
Cenarius
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Originally Posted by Lelany
I know it sais that expertise is never as worthy as strenght. But I am a little bit afraight. So does one of you guys really raid with expertise below 20?
Did it worked out for you? Or are there too many dodges?
Moreover i couldnt find if expertise acts like hit. I mean before you are hit capped hit is > strength. Does this apply for expertise either?
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Honestly, the only thing I think exp is good for is just keeping your rotation in a nice and neat order (but even this goes out the window in high movement fights). Right now I'm rolling with a grand total of 12 exp (had 10 not too long ago) and when I did try to boost my exp through gems up to 21 all I saw was a little smoother rotation with a little dps loss. Sure RNG can be a bitch sometimes but I believe the STR I gain from not gemming exp outweighs the loss of a GCD. And 25 exp reduces dodge by 6.5%? Ok, so that means I have a whopping 3.5% chance of being dodged, so it's never not that many dodges that I think you're scared of seeing. Now it's not like exp is a bad thing, I believe it's still given a decent stat weight (the next best thing after STR and ArP and the hit cap) and I would love more exp gear to drop for me, but if it's not there I wouldn't gem for it.
Last edited by Vkp007 : 08/08/09 at 10:53 AM.
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08/08/09, 11:29 AM
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#6690
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Glass Joe
Blood Elf Death Knight
Madoran
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Originally Posted by Leaflock
It's worth reminding again that the 6200 AP number is largely pulled out of thin air and is not a magic inflection point at all. The value of ArPen varies with how much ArPen you have; there is not one universal value of AP where ArP becomes better. The best course of action is to sim your gear yourself for stat weights.
Considering that 1) ArPen is already easy to cap without gemming, and 2) ArPen doesn't affect your AoE damage which can be quite useful on some fights, it's still arguably better overall to gem for Str.
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Where can i find a sim?
Also, should i be shooting for 100% ArP with a proc or...?
Currently i have 46.77% ArP unbuffed, 18% of that being gemmed for. With grim toll proc and food buff, i have 99.71% ArP, and easily at 6200 AP in raids.
If i regem everything to Str, i have an extra 641 AP
Also, where does Blood Gorged, and abilities such as Sunder Armor/Faerie Fire play into it
Last edited by Adamas1 : 08/08/09 at 11:41 AM.
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08/08/09, 11:45 AM
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#6691
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Glass Joe
Blood Elf Paladin
Ravencrest
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Woa, Why is BE doing 1k DPS more then Alliance?
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08/08/09, 11:52 AM
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#6692
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Von Kaiser
Blood Elf Paladin
Anachronos (EU)
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Heroic mode + all items vs normal mode + all items.
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08/08/09, 2:30 PM
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#6693
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Glass Joe
Human Warrior
Sylvanas (EU)
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This was answered, but only to be sure, without GT or runestone, as arms, stacking arp is best way to go ? ( i have 66% and didnt get all epic sockets in my slots yet)?
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08/08/09, 3:11 PM
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#6694
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Von Kaiser
Human Warrior
Kor'gall (EU)
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Originally Posted by fishleg
This was answered, but only to be sure, without GT or runestone, as arms, stacking arp is best way to go ? ( i have 66% and didnt get all epic sockets in my slots yet)?
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Yes it is, look 10 posts up and you'll find an explanation.
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08/08/09, 3:18 PM
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#6695
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Glass Joe
Blood Elf Death Knight
Illidan
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Thanks, doc
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08/08/09, 3:26 PM
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#6696
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Von Kaiser
Blood Elf Paladin
Ясеневый лес (EU)
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^ frost.
Another question: Is stamina so 'imba' that even Essence of Gossamer is better than an ilevel 219+? I'm not saying that because I believe it, but because I can't believe how many people are convinced in my realm and beyond that it's better to use a blue trinket just because it increases HP even if the avoidance alternative is more than 2 sub-tiers later.
Also what is with so many people ignoring completely gem bonuses just to gem stamina? I suspect there's a "fashion trend" going on. Not that stamina isn't spectacularly important in tanking, it is, but because the alternative of avoidance can not be so useless so that can be completely ignored.
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08/08/09, 5:39 PM
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#6697
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Glass Joe
Orc Hunter
Twilight's Hammer (EU)
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Kanthos' UI
Here's my UI, it's built only for PvE/Raiding so it isn't very PvP friendly atm.
Solo:
Raid/BG:

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08/08/09, 6:48 PM
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#6698
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Glass Joe
Tauren Death Knight
Lothar
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spec
k so the current 0/17/54 build requires end game gear, i just tested on naxx and my dps decreased substantially,
so any tips for not so geared dks? would you recommend to go back to the SS build we used pre 3.2? any tips ull like to add?
id really appreciate any help and im pretty sure many readers will appreciate it as well
thx
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08/08/09, 6:58 PM
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#6699
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King of the Winglies
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Updated Class needs 8/8
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08/08/09, 10:14 PM
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#6700
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Glass Joe
Undead Death Knight
Doomhammer
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Originally Posted by Feist-Mok
The one you can stand looking at for 80 levels and however many hours of endgame time you play on it.
The racial distinctions are sufficiently small that it's far better to play what you'll find fun.
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BE is sexy, but god is there mounts ever ugly.. I LOVE orc's mounts, but orcs are ugly rofl.
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