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Old 08/14/09, 8:55 PM   #6901
Jackinthegreen
Piston Honda
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Twisting Nether
Originally Posted by Forma View Post
I hope gear questions in this thread aren't frowned upon. If MMO Champion's loot list is actually complete, there are only 2 pieces of tanking gear in the new raids aside from the tier legs that have +hit on them. Both of them come from the 10man. This means that, wearing entirely new content gear, the most hit rating I can have is 173 with both 10man items, the highest tier legs, and +20 hit to gloves.

This seems pretty low to me. Am I wrong? Is this sufficient hit rating? Or should prot paladins in 3.2 consider picking up the +128 hit rating DPS trinket from vendors?
Let's hope it isn't complete, if that's all the tanking stuff available...

As for the trinket, the DPS one works for threat but if you want one with a tanking CD on it, [Battlemaster's Accuracy] (and of course the Alliance version) works wonders. For one-hand melee hitcap, it's 8% or 260ish hit rating.
 
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Old 08/14/09, 9:15 PM   #6902
Carine
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Tauren Warrior
 
Outland (EU)
Hi everyone. I've read through this thread and I couldn't find a valid answers for my questions which I am going to ask.

I've playing an arms warrior whith fairly good gear but I stil seems to have some problems with my DPS, so I'm going to ask a few questions here.

1: Should I change any of my gems or enchants?
2: Should I use another rotations that I am using at the moment? (see my rotation below)
3: When I am using Heroic Strike should I still use other abilites to fill the GCDs or should I wait for the HS to hit?
4: Is there any special Addon you would recomend to me as an Arms Warrior? (atm I am using Class Timer)

If you check me up on the armory you will se my PvP specc atm, the PvE specc I'm using is 54/17/0 with imp execute.

My prioritation list is:
Rend
MS
TFB
Execute
OP
Slam

My Armory Link. (I linked my armory because it's bugged in my proflie.)
Thanks for comming answers.

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Old 08/14/09, 9:28 PM   #6903
darkstrike01
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Human Mage
 
Shandris
It is very clear that Arcane needs more scaling from crit, but as Pasture previously stated, with a 72% damage modifer on AB + 200% crit dmg would make it way to powerful.

I would suggest to have critical strike place a dot on the target, but that'd to much like fire.

I very much like the idea of the deep destro talent that reduces cast time and GCD of subsequante spells

"your arcane critical strikes reduces the cast time and GCD of your next 3 arcane spells that deal damage by 30%"

this would make crit a decent stat to have and it won't make arcane pvp any more bursty.

and as for the mana efficency: i raided ony 10 on the PTR with kings, wisdom, replenishment and GotW and NO mana issues whatsoever, i see it being even better in a 25 man raid with divine spirit added.
 
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Old 08/14/09, 10:41 PM   #6904
fedcop2
Glass Joe
 
Troll Mage
 
Eitrigg
Gear issue

Hey everyone. Like the forum here and trying to sort through the enormous amounts of information in it.
My problem is this I have mage (Fumundacheez) on the Eitrigg server and decently geared but still not putting out the damage that I am geared for. I think I have the spell rotation down (LB, 5x scorch, FFB, HS with PB). Now it be going back to the basics but I know (or at least my guess) its spell hit>spell damage>spell crit. But how much is too much hit and where does haste figure in? Would someone look at my gear and tell if I got the right makeup? I just recently got the Boots of Crackling Flame and the Evokers Chram tand the Gaze of the Unknowno replace the Boot of Persusasion and Freyas Choker and Conquerors Hood.

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Old 08/14/09, 10:42 PM   #6905
gcbirzan
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Vashj (EU)
Edit: Misread.

Last edited by gcbirzan : 08/15/09 at 9:58 PM.

Originally Posted by Kaubel View Post
FOR SUCK SAKE ENOUGH ABOUT BIS LISTS.
 
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Old 08/14/09, 10:51 PM   #6906
Jagiya
Don Flamenco
 
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Gnome Rogue
 
Blackrock
Which he obviously wouldn't use if there was more than one mob on the Warrior at the time?
 
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Old 08/14/09, 10:54 PM   #6907
Villie
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Draenei Death Knight
 
Spinebreaker (EU)
Originally Posted by Cambrio View Post
You have to remember- while having an unused full RP bar means less DPS potential, Frost Strike takes a backseat to pretty much everything in 3.2. Now, I may be biased as I've never been a fan of Unholy Presence, but you're going to be doing all you can to get those hard hitting Oblit + KM Rime's off over Frost Strike (and this means staying in BP). With AMS/speedy RP generation, this circumstance will not be unusual. I don't think we should be fooled. You should still have just enough time during your global rune cooldown to get off 2-3 FS's and get yourself back to 50% RP and not feel like you're wasting RP or using FS over essentials.
You are spot on with wut u have said m8 on closer analysis of my rotation. i.e the raid tonight. The way it feels at this moment in time is a lot like my affliction lock where frost strike is the equivelant to shadowbolt, in terms of being the filler spell or ablility i use while waiting for oblit to come off cooldown, UP just doesnt cut the mustard in terms of damage at all. Im fine with this to be honest it seems to work well in BP tho the timing of refreshing ur diseases with GofD is quite tight, but enables u to maximise the damage from ur FF and BP and as long as ur on top of ur timers it will be all gravy. Tho due to the run time u will have to IT PS at some point to refresh due to the the timers eventually overlapping ur BR cd. So guess excess Rp aint a bad thing these days lol........................Apologies for the bad grammer and stuff quite drunk at the moment :P
 
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Old 08/15/09, 12:45 AM   #6908
SOFLA
Glass Joe
 
Human Warrior
 
Kargath
Hey guys. I've been raiding arcane since I've hit 80. Just curious as to is Fire more optimal for more DPS increase? If so, is FFB or FB better?. Thanks.
 
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Old 08/15/09, 1:24 AM   #6909
m0dena
 
Night Elf Death Knight
 
Fenris
yeah i've debated whether to two hand it again or not
 
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Old 08/15/09, 1:39 AM   #6910
Tidox
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Muradin
Uis Uis Uis.....
 
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Old 08/15/09, 2:09 AM   #6911
Aerrie
Glass Joe
 
Undead Mage
 
Shattered Halls (EU)
Thank you for responses everyone especially Dralektus' and Enthorn's were usefull )
 
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Old 08/15/09, 6:43 AM   #6912
Maiav
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Deathwing (EU)
Passive ArP without procc

i play hunters since the start of wow since my irl hobby is archery.i d like to ask though about ArP.i have read a lot about ArP gemming but i have nowhere found any info about passive ArP without trinket.i got atm 1500agi with 685passive ArP without using grim toll or mjolnir runestone.should i remove some of the ArP gems for higher agi?my current trinkets are Darkmoon Card Greatness(90agi passive,+300 on procc) and the new trinket from ToC normal.Banner of Victory(87ArP passive-+1k ap on procc).Any suggestions would be most welcome.Thanks in Advance and for Reading this.
 
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Old 08/15/09, 7:44 AM   #6913
bigjonno
Glass Joe
 
Orc Warrior
 
The Sha'tar (EU)
I'd appreciate some help fine tuning my wife's rogue. She's not a theorycrafter by any means, so I've always helped her out with the mechanics behind her characters and have frequently used EJ for rotation and spec information, but I'm restricted by the fact that I don't actually play a rogue. It's like trying to help someone improve their driving when, despite having read the car user manual and knowing the Highway Code, you've never set foot in a car yourself. It doesn't help that we haven't got access to Excel for running spreadsheets.

I'm pretty sure that she's not doing the DPS that she should be. We've followed every bit of advice in the Pocket Guide and every time I've watched her she's been using the correct rotations. She's not raided since getting a few hefty upgrades, so I'm not sure of her exact raid DPS numbers, but in a pretty ideal boss fight in a heroic yesterday she was just pushing 4k. Generally speaking, her DPS is coming out much lower.

Apologies in advance if this falls into the "drooling idiot" post class, but I've exhausted the resources available to me and I'm sure it's a case of me missing something that would be obvious if it was actually my character. If anyone could offer any advice, it'd be greatly appreciated.

Cheers.

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Old 08/15/09, 1:40 PM   #6914
Kelwick
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Hunter
 
Duskwood
anyone do a new gear guide basis for the coliseum and triumph badge gear yet?
 
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Old 08/15/09, 3:20 PM   #6915
Sebastionleo
Glass Joe
 
Troll Rogue
 
Twisting Nether
I'd love to use an Empowered deathbringer with my blood fury, especially with it being 2.7 speed (tho 2.8 would be a nice offset to the lack of stats)
 
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Old 08/15/09, 3:23 PM   #6916
Align
 
Human Death Knight
 
Ysera
Im lost

Ok now im totally lost, I run the 12/0/59 is this no longer viable? do I need to pick up frost? and SS is no longer used do I need to drop SS for Obl? I have included my armory any help would be appreciated I thought that I was haeding in the right direction but apparently not.

Thanks in advance

The World of Warcraft Armory
 
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Old 08/15/09, 4:01 PM   #6917
Bauten
Banned
 
Tauren Druid
 
Detheroc
I was thinking about making a macro to switch between the shred and mangle idols. Like when my mangle idol procs to switch over to the shred idol, switch back to reapply mangle, and back and forth. Would that be beneficial? Im sure its been thought of before
 
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Old 08/15/09, 5:27 PM   #6918
kbranch
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Shadowsong
Originally Posted by Bauten View Post
I was thinking about making a macro to switch between the shred and mangle idols. Like when my mangle idol procs to switch over to the shred idol, switch back to reapply mangle, and back and forth. Would that be beneficial? Im sure its been thought of before
This has been brought up a dozen different times by a dozen different people, and every time it's proven to not be worth it. Swapping idols resets your swing timer and triggers the GCD, negating any benefit you get on top of adding another layer of complexity to an already complex rotation.
 
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Old 08/15/09, 5:29 PM   #6919
crazynarutard
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Talnivarr (EU)
Edit: Nvm what I said earlier.

Last edited by crazynarutard : 08/16/09 at 3:54 AM.
 
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Old 08/15/09, 6:25 PM   #6920
Jacqueliine
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Rogue
 
Agamaggan (EU)
Weapon Choice, Help

Have the following daggers: Daschalsbitex2, Golem shard-sticker and Combatants bootblade.

Right know im using daschal and golem, but many has told me to use daschal x2 and some tells me to use bootblade as the faster OH.

Could anyone please help me out here?

What weaps should i use and why? Am both hit and exp capped.

Thx alot
 
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Old 08/15/09, 7:11 PM   #6921
Ugdrazil
Banned
 
Human Warrior
 
Dragonblight (EU)
yea
 
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Old 08/15/09, 7:12 PM   #6922
Ugdrazil
Banned
 
Human Warrior
 
Dragonblight (EU)
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Old 08/15/09, 7:13 PM   #6923
evoslayer
Von Kaiser
 
Blood Elf Rogue
 
Dark Iron
Use Daschals and Bootblade, which really should be an obvious decision as Bootblade is both faster and WAY better itemized than Shard Sticker,

Next time check a spreadsheet, or read the best in slot list, or any discussion about weapon speeds, the information is already out there.
 
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Old 08/15/09, 7:14 PM   #6924
Ugdrazil
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Human Warrior
 
Dragonblight (EU)
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Old 08/15/09, 7:14 PM   #6925
Ugdrazil
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Human Warrior
 
Dragonblight (EU)
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