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Old 09/23/09, 9:12 PM   #8151
Beachac
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Tauren Druid
 
Area 52
Can anyone attest to a flameshock cycle with the glyph?
 
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Old 09/23/09, 9:18 PM   #8152
Rampagebull
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Bloodhoof
Ahh, thanks. That is really lame =(
 
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Old 09/23/09, 10:45 PM   #8153
enkiel
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Orc Shaman
 
Thaurissan
SoC and PvP Spec

Firstly, thanks for the article, a lot of gr8 information to help me sort out my dps priorities on my Pally. But, just a quick question, it is noted that SoC is the PvP seal, but when looking @ the recommended spec for PvP, SoC isn't in it. Is this an oversight, or is SoV now also recommended for PvP?

One more question, I can't find Judgement of Command anywhere in my talents and can't find any information about it. Is this still a skill in WoLK? (I am a belf)
 
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Old 09/23/09, 11:56 PM   #8154
IXISIXI
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Shaman
 
Nathrezim
I feel like my dps is higher with totem of hex - is it just me?
 
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Old 09/24/09, 1:11 AM   #8155
Unpudgeyball
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Human Rogue
 
Jubei'Thos
Does the Beta 4 Combat sheet take account of the 3.2.2 ArP change? If memory serves the new soft cap was around 734 but the sheet is still recommending gear at least for me, around the 564 softcap.
 
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Old 09/24/09, 1:22 AM   #8156
Boondok
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Tauren Shaman
 
Cenarius
Originally Posted by IXISIXI View Post
I feel like my dps is higher with totem of hex - is it just me?
Yes it is. Unless all you raid is patchwork with 1300+ haste without the totem of electrifying wind.
 
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Old 09/24/09, 1:32 AM   #8157
neomasterc
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Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Cho'gall
Okay i get it. But if you had 4p t9, and all the other AP bonuses (DMCG, death's choice 25/25HM), i would think it would probably benefit you most to go unholy? because it would seem to me that the 4p bonus really favors unholy dps more due to increased disease dmg, so GoD might be very effective in BiS unholy.
 
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Old 09/24/09, 1:57 AM   #8158
Derpies
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Orc Hunter
 
Thaurissan
Missing items in the spreadsheet

There are several items not updated in the spreadsheet i guess like those ilevel 245 arena weapon range weapons, dragonstalker helm. I cant calculate my dps properly without those ;(
 
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Old 09/24/09, 2:05 AM   #8159
Ericrulez
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Undead Rogue
 
Runetotem
I hear of people talking about ruptureless rotations and switching to eviscerate glyph/spec ...can anyone tell me when eviscerate would out weigh rupture???
 
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Old 09/24/09, 2:24 AM   #8160
amonmin
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Night Elf Rogue
 
Baelgun
Have we decided if we should be gemming for Agil or ArP or is that still in debate?
 
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Old 09/24/09, 2:29 AM   #8161
greenjello
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Undead Rogue
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by amonmin View Post
Have we decided if we should be gemming for Agil or ArP or is that still in debate?
It was never in debate. It does and always has depended on how much passive armor penetration you have from gear, whether or not you have an armor pen. proc trinket (Mjolnir Runestone or Grim Toll), and your spec/rotation. The combat spreadsheets available on this forum will give you exact EP values for every stat if you enter in your current gear setup.
 
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Old 09/24/09, 2:59 AM   #8162
Kaejin
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Troll Death Knight
 
Mal'Ganis
Except this is the Blood DPS thread, so we're discussing what would benefit Blood builds the most.
 
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Old 09/24/09, 3:28 AM   #8163
wurmfood
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Farstriders
Originally Posted by Derpies View Post
There are several items not updated in the spreadsheet i guess like those ilevel 245 arena weapon range weapons, dragonstalker helm. I cant calculate my dps properly without those ;(
You can always add them as custom items.
 
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Old 09/24/09, 3:35 AM   #8164
LunarWolfspirit
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Human Warrior
 
Dath'Remar
Originally Posted by BWarner View Post
I covered the relative benefit of these four potions here: AeroWow | The Well-Buffed Warrior
Excellent. Bookmarked and thanks.
 
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Old 09/24/09, 5:30 AM   #8165
akbinhil
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Troll Hunter
 
Anub'arak
ArP is still doing the same damage for me as Agil gems according to the spreadsheet, so not worth a regem. Now that I am out of ArP gems in my bank, however, I'm putting only agil and agil/crit, since I have mjolnir and a lot of arp from gear.

I saw some discussion in the best dps forum about dual Death's Choice (Heroic and Non) for SV hunters specifically. Anyone had a chance to test this for MM hunters (outside the spreadsheet I mean, it looks shiny there)?

Last edited by akbinhil : 09/24/09 at 5:50 AM.
 
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Old 09/24/09, 5:46 AM   #8166
Skapegoat
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Orc Hunter
 
Onyxia
Just curious if anyone can post an updated version of best in slot.
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Old 09/24/09, 6:40 AM   #8167
myztikrice
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Gnome Mage
 
Tichondrius
Rawr says Scale + Abyssal for me.
 
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Old 09/24/09, 6:45 AM   #8168
yukon
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Blood Elf Rogue
 
Doomhammer (EU)
With the new armor penetration changes wouldn't the new DPS trinket from the brewfest boss be a better alternative to Banner of victory?
 
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Old 09/24/09, 6:56 AM   #8169
Wazooty
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Human Warrior
 
Bleeding Hollow
As of 3.2.2, As a non mace spec arms warrior, is Arpen still the stat to stack assuming you have neither grim toll or mjolnir runestone? (generally because you have the option to upgrade to better trinkets, not because it hasn't dropped for you yet in naxx).

Obviously you ideally want 100% passive arpen...is there a minimum passive arpen amount that you should try to hit before its worth stacking it? Like...if I can;t hit 75% passive I should stick with str?


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Old 09/24/09, 7:23 AM   #8170
Winfurae
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Draenei Shaman
 
Aggramar (EU)
Alright, thanks everyone for the input.
 
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Old 09/24/09, 9:17 AM   #8171
Ran Newman
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Gnome Warrior
 
Terrordar (EU)
Is it possible to "hotfix" the swordspec without waiting for the new version of the spreadsheet? If so, can someone explain how to do it?
 
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Old 09/24/09, 9:29 AM   #8172
Masterdragon
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Mal'Ganis
Delete Please -> T9 Bonus Fix Moved to FD and other Issues Thread.

Last edited by Masterdragon : 09/24/09 at 9:40 AM.

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Old 09/24/09, 9:54 AM   #8173
Scyne
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Undead Warrior
 
Stormreaver (EU)
Originally Posted by Ran Newman View Post
Is it possible to "hotfix" the swordspec without waiting for the new version of the spreadsheet? If so, can someone explain how to do it?
If you would just have looked at the previous page before asking you would have found your answer: Warrior DPS Calculation Spreadsheet
 
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Old 09/24/09, 10:39 AM   #8174
Horobi
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Undead Rogue
 
Drak'thul (EU)
Need a bit of advice at 10man raid composition. I'm trying to optimize the composition of my raid to get most possible raid dps for ToC10 HC. One of the groups contains healers (usually pala+priest+shammy) and 2 DPS 2xmage/mage +spriest) the other group has 2 tanks (warrior+pally) lock and myself as a rogue. Last spot in melee group varies.

My question is - has anyone theorycrafted the order of imporatance of raid buffs/debuffs from a rogue perspective?

Especially, can anyone help me to fill the last spot with most useful class for me (and for my raid if the answers differs)?

Thanks a lot for suggestions guys.
 
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Old 09/24/09, 10:54 AM   #8175
Suspirìa
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Blood Elf Hunter
 
Hakkar (EU)
A doubt: last night I've get my [Death's Head Crossbow] (hero version!), with +20 agi socket (too lazy to re-socket with nightmare tears); now I'm sit at 8864 dps in ArPen soft cap gear. Between two weeks, I can get [Relentless Gladiator's Recurve], but on spreadsheet, is 17 dps loss.
How this is possible? Better min-max, slow weapon and CS more powerful, etc.: 40 agi + socket can beat all this?
 
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