Thread of Ultimate Suck - Page 45

greendef · 11/25/08, 2:56 AM

While your post is really off-topic for this thread, I've been told that disabling questhelper can sometimes fix this issue.

DateeForma · 11/25/08, 6:34 PM

Originally Posted by DateeForma

So i decided to Try for the Glyph of Scourge Strike dps rotation. My question isnt exactly about that glyph in any way but what im finding is that after the PS, IT, BS, BS,SS theres about a 5 second cooldown on my scourge strikes to continue which is fine because thats supposed to be where i dump some RP. BUt then after another SS, theres another delay, and sometimes another, it seems really inefficient. Im not sure if my reaping is working or if im retarded or whats going on. other times in my rotation i will be able to effectively scourge strike immediately nearly 4 times in a row. Others im waiting 3 or 4 seconds between them. I wonder what im doing incorrectly.

So anybody mind helping me out with this question?

mrgood · 11/25/08, 7:09 PM

Okay I'm new to 80 and I have no idea what I'm doing.
I'm 0\41\30.
In instance is all I do CoA,Corr,Imm then spam incinerate?
I'm onlyi n levelling greens and blues but I'm just getting about 1400 DPS.. is that a bit lacklustre?

lawl · 11/25/08, 8:01 PM

Actually, my post was not addressed in this thread.

"Unless boss AP has jumped considerably, you won't need 5/5. Boss AP was ~300 at level 60 and ~340 at 70. The only reason people went 5/5 before is effectively gone."

Rank 8 Demoralizing Roar at level 77 is a 408 AP reduction.

The reply you warned me over is speculative and based on level 70 numbers.

Nobody here knows how much AP bosses have in Wotlk. Nobody knows how many points in imp demo shout or feral aggression hit the 30% mob dmg from AP cap.

Searching the web reveals nothing except further speculation in Elitist Jerks threads from 2006.

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Unless boss AP has jumped considerably, you won't need 5/5. Boss AP was ~300 at level 60 and ~340 at 70. The only reason people went 5/5 before is effectively gone.
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So how many points do I need in feral aggression to hit the AP reduction cap for bosses?

I'm look to spec the optimal tank build for survival, with threat and DPS being secondary.

1 point? 5 points?

What AP do level 80 bosses have?
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Exhorde · 11/26/08, 2:40 AM

can we get a survival thread going like the BM and MM one. i cant find really any info on this spec.

Ambits · 11/26/08, 9:35 AM

I wanted to just get a couple pointers and make sure i'm going in the right direction on my gear. I dinged 80 just a few days ago and I'm trying to prepare myself for naxx while i wait for a couple more guys in the guild to hit 80. I'm currently sitting at 2776 AP, 193 hit rating, 194 expertise and around 16814 health. I'm slowly replacing my gear with epics, I already got the Titansteel Shanker and I'm still going to have to replace my other saronite shiv, but mainly I just wanted to see if anyone had any suggestions on continuing. I'm thinking I may have a little too much hit rating since I think I really only need 132 for specials but I was going to go for the 237 cap for my poisons. Any suggestions? Thanks

I am also mutilate spec.

Malleus · 11/26/08, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Dunnagh

HoS: Definately VERY hard to do the event. A Paladin helps a lot to pick up the Mobs at the door before they aggro the NPC. This way the achievement could be done quiet easy. I think this event will get MUCH easier with everyone getting better equip

Two of my guild got the undamaged Brann achievement off this the first time they ran it. One of them had dinged 80 less than a day before. I submit it will get a lot easier when you stop partying with bad players.

Centarion92 · 11/26/08, 3:31 PM

I was wondering what the current "best" spec for level 80 raiding resto druids is now.

Thanks

Rocco · 11/26/08, 7:30 PM

Originally Posted by 2Face

What is the general rotation for Arms Warriors now?
I've been Prot since I hit 80, and now that the guild tanks and offtanks are 80, I'm going to have to spec DPS, but I don't want to be the typical TG spec every other Warrior is today.

However, I haven't really kept up with Arms Warriors since the SD nerf. Can somebody fill me in with rotation and skill priorities as an Arms War?

Toots Hepcat, do you value strength above crit as well?

I got some new items tonight and now im at 500 hit with a lot of hit gems, and I'm going to convert them into crit gems i recon. When would you go for pure STR? at around 40% crit unbuffed?

Miskington · 11/27/08, 8:06 AM

Going to make this a short question, because I've been going through threads and can't find a straight answer...

For raiding in Wrath of the Lich King, which is a better spec to use? Fist/Dagger, or Mutilate? And where are the tree set ups for maximized DPS?

These are both new trees to me, as I have been playing swords since the beginning.

Thanks

Debeljko · 11/27/08, 8:32 AM

i would like to ask smthg about WG.. tbh i thought WG is going to be more usefull then it is atm (imo).. its not like i`v been in raid too much in past 10 days but im a bit disapointed in WG atm.. is it just couse i have mana issue or its simple not so good as it was at 70lvl?

Diuleelomo · 11/27/08, 10:12 PM

i still think Evis is better when talent improved + Glyph of Evis.

lilyosh · 11/27/08, 10:39 PM

Resto looks boring im scared to respec to it ><

lilyosh · 11/27/08, 10:42 PM

hmm interesting

lilyosh · 11/27/08, 10:44 PM

Whats the new rotation like. and what hit rating will we need at 80?

lilyosh · 11/27/08, 10:53 PM

Did shaman's just die in pve? Will we all go heal bot now?

Svifwin · 11/27/08, 11:02 PM

Im in game right now and the leggaurds nor the bite are fixed. When i put the leggaurds (334rap total) on over my colossal strides (326rap) i LOSE 210 rap.

lilyosh · 11/27/08, 11:36 PM

arg i cant make up my mind what spec to go >< i like dps i have never tried resto and i have only played enhancement... plz help me ><

lilyosh · 11/28/08, 12:01 AM

I like enhancement allot but its alot of work and i think im just going to have to respec resto or elemental.

quick question is enhancement a really good raiding spec or is elemental better for dps?

motomower · 11/28/08, 12:42 AM

So the hit cap a lvl80 is 367 spell hit+3%hit?

Diuleelomo · 11/28/08, 1:41 AM

Originally Posted by Echophantom

Unless you have numbers to back that up that are more stable than "I see bigger numbers," it has no place in a thread whose purpose is modelling Envenom.

first, i agree Envenom will more damage than Evis if poison & combat point both have 5
but we can not gather 5 poison when we have 5 combat point due to Seal fate + Mutieate

Akeldema · 11/28/08, 6:11 AM

Originally Posted by koaschten

You might want to try a spreadsheet to figure out what that would be like.

I have Vulajin's Spreadsheet, But im in the dark as to how to use it.

thadufuzz · 11/28/08, 7:05 AM

I'm personally extremely unsatisfied with the way Blizzard has dealt with this bug to be honest.
It's been known of for quite some time now, and considering how huge part Judgement is of a paladins utility and damage, I would say they have taken for to much time sorting it out.

Been doing a fair bit of testing with it and so have alot of other ret paladins, and the numbers of judgements bugging out is pretty shocking. This should definitely be one of the paladin community's main priorities to push foreward to Blizz.

Fezogue · 11/28/08, 7:42 AM

Originally Posted by Rosethorn

So they do 15% more damage. Tank threat is not an issue, and if rogues do it to each other they keep the same threat they would have had if no one was using tricks but do 15% more damage for 6 seconds every 30 seconds. This can only produce win cakes.

And this 15% extra dmg = alot of dps for us rogues

Suski · 11/28/08, 9:22 AM

Hi,

Me as a raiding mage was actually looking for a raid gear post, but i might aswell ask here (as i can't make new posts myself yet).
I am obviously Frostfire spec (0/53/18)

My main question is, what trinkets should i actually get, seem to be so many good ones for example.

Embrace of the Spider - Item - World of Warcraft Naxx drop, a lot of spellpower which is important is important, and ofc haste to get some burst.

Sundial of the Exiled - Item - World of Warcraft Easy enough to get and gives loads of spelldmg.

Dying Curse - Item - World of Warcraft Massive amount of hit (lets u take items without crit over items who have more crit / spelldmg. and ofc that this is the trinket that gives the single most Spellpower per proc.

Extract of Necromatic Power - Item - World of Warcraft Since i'm a FFB mage I got a dot uptime between 90-100% (depends how slacky i am on living bomb :P)

So what is the best trinkets of the linked ones above (or if there are any better ones please tell me).

Ty in advance and really appreciate the effort.

Ps: You can proove your point with math and theorycrafting, i can understand it.