Thread of Ultimate Suck - Page 58

Hic · 12/17/08, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by Alex234

And after this logs peoples saying that hunter have OMG dps

Very fun.

Rogue normal DPS is also present in that log... a few steps down. Hunter DPS is simply too high - not a bug...

Alex234 · 12/17/08, 10:46 PM

Rogue dps in this log NOT a bug

HAT rogue working as intended (c) Blue post.
So i cant say that our dps is too high (except aoe, and "bugged" scorp poison).

Sunflame · 12/17/08, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by Alex234

Rogue dps in this log NOT a bug

HAT rogue working as intended (c) Blue post.
So i cant say that our dps is too high (except aoe, and "bugged" scorp poison).

HAT working as intended? Don't think so. Source please.

KraxisSingular · 12/17/08, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by Hic

Rogue normal DPS is also present in that log... a few steps down. Hunter DPS is simply too high - not a bug...

If we remove the HAT Rogues then the second Hunter is placed 5th. He uses a Cat while the top Hunter uses a Scorpid. The Scorpid is vastly OP, no denial, no complaints at it's nerfs, needed indeed. The Cat is getting a nerf too, if not terribly hard it seems. Both are 50/21 Hunters. So by the very spec and petchoices they will get 'fixed' a fair bit lower due to acceptable changes. Any added nerfs will just put them way too low for the value they otherwise bring. Few buffs, medium to low single target stationary DPS (what about DPS on petunfriendly fights? Comparable to tanks acceptable to you?) and voeful AoE to boot.

Yes, fix the blatant problems and they will correct our DPS all by themselves.

flimflam · 12/18/08, 3:26 AM

Originally Posted by Alex234

Rogue dps in this log NOT a bug

HAT rogue working as intended (c) Blue post.
So i cant say that our dps is too high (except aoe, and "bugged" scorp poison).

Originally Posted by Sunflame

HAT working as intended? Don't think so. Source please.

World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> Nerf or fix rogue HAT spec

Rogues should be doing very high dps if not the highest dps for some fights. If that isn't happening we will buff them (ideally in a way that does not inflate their PvP damage potential).

There is a known bug with Honor Among Thieves where multiple rogues with the ability in one group generate too many combo points. It isn't our intent that this bug make up any PvE dps deficiency.

A similar bug was mentioned months ago where only one rogue in a group would receive combo points frequently if other people in the group received a lot of crits. This is working as intended as far as we can tell.

That all i was able to find.

Soulburn · 12/18/08, 3:50 AM

i think this is one of the most interesting subjects on PvE talk lately. but sorry if i missed a point on this one;

so i'd like to ask a question about the poison of choice here. why use wound poison instead of instant or deadly ? (for pve that is ofc)

Musqito · 12/18/08, 4:00 AM

Hey guys,

Just wondering what's considered 'needed' to do some damage as Retribution Paladin in Naxx 10m & 25m.
I apologize if there's already a topic on this. I haven't been able to find it however...

My Armory atm: LINK
Could be usefull for all other retadins aswell.
Maybe a small sticky for all pala's, just to know what we should aim for?

Thanks
Mus

Eporter · 12/18/08, 7:15 AM

Originally Posted by Sean

I did 5 minute tests for each pet spamming Steady Shot with Hawk up (and switching to Viper to FM when needed) on the 83 dummy (for GFTT/Cobra procs) and this is what I had:

Scorpid: 770, Cat: 685, Devilsaur: 640, Spirit Beast: 555

It basically matches up the same as pre-nerfs. They barely touched the Scorpid and Cat at all and Scorpid is still by far the best pet. However, I'm told that the Spirit Beast scales ridiculously well with full raid buffs now and that in a raid situation it should be a top contending pet, but I'm unable to test that.

sweet Ill finish leveling my scorpid then

MissnL1nK · 12/18/08, 8:33 AM

I personally will be running with a priest healer in 2's. I went through all 4 seasons with him pre-Wrath on my rogue so I am wondering how it will work with a DK. I currently haven't done in arena yet though to give any feedback. I will more than likely spec a Frost/Blood build at first and go from there.

Alistra · 12/18/08, 12:06 PM

Thanks for the response, unfortunately I don't get Misery in raid. - As for the search function, right now Im working with this forum in a little window. Work is busy and a searching this forum would cost the company I work for money in lost productivity :P

Mippy · 12/18/08, 3:08 PM

Originally Posted by malthrin

Illusion is 4 mps, or 20 mp5.

Whoops, fail.

forune · 12/18/08, 3:31 PM

Originally Posted by Randor

Rend is a horrible talent for Fury since you want to be in zerker stance all of the time. Maybe you could charge in and rend in a heroic but you're better off skipping that talent.

Imp charge is also meh unless farming. It's not sexy but 4/5 parry is far better.

Furious attacks is a purely pvp talent and if that's the case, you'd need Heroic fury and you don't have it. Drop Furious attacks and go 3/3 Bloodsurge. It gets a little better come patch and once you get the crit, it is up a lot and does considerable damage.

I put the points in rend as filler points sense i should be behind the target when not tanking it if they ever bring out the dual specs. Thanks for the input on my build i will try out the changes suggested and see what happens.

Ossian666 · 12/18/08, 3:45 PM

I have been trying to keep up on this thread for the sake of keeping up on my max DPS, but I haven't seen anything about whether or not they fixed the problem with the SS glyph and the talent Marked for Death. Have we seen this fixed or is this fixed in the PTR as of now?

Thanks

Eporter · 12/18/08, 3:46 PM

someone reported in the 3.0.8 changes thread that marked for death is no longer breaking the steady shot glyph.

toth · 12/18/08, 4:28 PM

Originally Posted by Drowena

Here's the macro I came up with in case you want chat messages with the exact mouseover target name:

/stopcasting
/cast [target=mouseover][] Guardian Spirit
/run u=UnitName("mouseover"); m=" GS and can't die for 10s!"; if u then SendChatMessage("You have" .. m, "WHISPER",nil,u); SendChatMessage(u .. " has" .. m, "RAID_WARNING",nil,nil); end

That's perfect, thanks!

secsi · 12/18/08, 5:19 PM

hi anyone tryed some weapon enchants combinations??
im courious if berserker - executioner is best the berserker - berserker??
im very courios?
my char name is Secsi - ghostlands

Kyrié · 12/18/08, 5:57 PM

Originally Posted by escariot

The World of Warcraft Armory

I should have linked that in the thread, my apologies. Also, my talent spec is about 3 pts different (not too different, I was trying something this morning and will probably go back to the one I listed or follow suggestions I get on this board to vary it up a bit).

want some of your gear! please mail me the helm thats eluding me.

edited as I dont have as many hp im 2k shy

kourgath · 12/18/08, 6:30 PM

Nice numbers Osse. I notice that your current build takes advantage of Readiness and that your DPS pet choice is a Tenacity pet.

I would love to see your new DPS numbers for Patchwerk after the 3.08 nerf. In theory, Readiness will no longer work and Scorpid DPS gets whacked.

healingtears · 12/18/08, 7:02 PM

I am currently a mutilate rogue I have 320 hit 17 exp unbuffed. I was wondering if that is to much hit, I know its to little exp. The other rogue in my guild that raids is only at 210 hit and 28 exp unbuffed but it seems like he only misses about 2 - 3% less then me in 25 mans(he is currently Combat). Some fights does 200-600 more dps then me.

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NoPoint · 12/18/08, 7:20 PM

Hey guys, I have an alt mage that I raided with some during BC and am planning to level up again in wrath.

I raided him as 40/0/21 and from my assumptions, 50/0/21 (a-la
WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Mage -> Talent Calculator
) looks like it should be very close to the ffb generic.

How do you guys feel it would scale in comparison to ffb generic (/elemental)?

My original intention was to use glyph of frostbolt, glyph of AP and glyph of molten armor. I'm strongly considering going for glyph of ffb instead of frostbolt though. I'm not sure how each would scale. It appears there's 4% of a greater coefficient with frostfire than frostbolt, but it's also at the expense of .5 seconds cast time.

Thanks.

Krazen · 12/18/08, 7:31 PM

Glyph of Agony: Your Curse of Agony ticks twice as much for half the damage.

Thoughts?

Oth · 12/18/08, 8:32 PM

Originally Posted by Krazen

Glyph of Agony: Your Curse of Agony ticks twice as much for half the damage.

Thoughts?

My SCTD already looks enough like an arterial fountain without 1-second ticks?

(Unless you mean 48s duration...)

Unfrogivenx · 12/19/08, 12:48 AM

Any ideas on when the Open office SS with be up and ready?

michaelr8 · 12/19/08, 1:02 AM

This might of been mentioned, but I have 5/5 precision, using hat, how much hit do I need? 315 is the cap, but do I need that much using this spec?

Kinetics · 12/19/08, 2:32 AM

Hey everyone,

I'm decently new to the site but I would like to hear what everyone thinks about this current build of mine.

The World of Warcraft Armory

Theres my build, and here is my gear and such.

The World of Warcraft Armory

I would just like to hear what everyone thinks about it, thats all really. Although I can say, in any raid that I have been in, I top out DPS constantly. Usually by a good percentage too. Although I don't really have any numbers to give out right now to show that I have, but I'm hoping you will trust my judgement.

Thanks again and by the way my pet is a Devilsaur for those of you that are wondering.

Hellusion