Thread of Ultimate Suck - Page 59

AzureusPT · 12/19/08, 5:18 AM

I was wondering what Equivalency Points should be best for a shaman elemental...

rvnfizg · 12/19/08, 5:20 AM

Hi guys,

long time reader, first time poster here.

Last week i went on my guild's first 25man naxx run and picked up a couple of new items. those runs were before i got my shoulders, t7 gloves and leggings and along the way i lost quite a bit of expertise. I am wondering whether i should gem for expertise as it shows a loss of 1dps frm gemming AP accordign to the spreadsheet.

link to my armory:The World of Warcraft Armory

and here are the parses frm naxx..
Wow Web Stats
Wow Web Stats

these parses are before the new items (lost expertise from my shoulder and gloves and am severely lackign expertise at the moment)

I currently have no problem maintaining my rotations (keeping hfb up but occasionally dropping it)

Thats about it..

Æthien · 12/19/08, 5:32 AM

Whenever someone alters the spreadsheet to work in OO.

Batuk · 12/19/08, 7:04 AM

Has anyone seen any updates on the other bugs we experience? Although shadow embrace is a huge one it'd be nice to get the other ones fixed too.. / are there any [Bug] threads on the ptr forum with it?

• Garby · 12/19/08, 7:08 AM

Originally Posted by Unfrogivenx

Any ideas on when the Open office SS with be up and ready?

This gets asked like every damn page.

Never.

shaeberle · 12/19/08, 9:48 AM

SampleOutput - simulationcraft - Google Code

intellect spirit spell power hit crit haste
Shaman_54_17_0 0.21 0.00 1.12 2.01 0.55 0.74

mageypoo · 12/19/08, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by faykan

Well a quick search revealed this post by Roywyn:

Wowhead browsing suggests that the enchant is Black Magic - Spell - World of Warcraft with a 50% chance to proc Black Magic - Spell - World of Warcraft. Probably with a cooldown.

That curse would be not removable, 880 damage on average before buffs/talents. With CoE, FI, partials, and as Arcane or Fire Mage with PWF/ArcInst, that would be 1013 total damage at most.

The 63 Spell Power enchant adds 77 DPS for a Fire Spec of 2 builds ago in Naxx-10 gear.
That means over 15 seconds, the full Black Ice duration, it would add 1155 damage.

So, um, yay? Even if the enchant proc had no cooldown and reprocs didn't reset the tick timer (like on Deadly Poison or Affliction/Shadow talents) and the proc was always up, the spell power enchant would be better.
It would however be useful when AoEing to curse all mobs you hit. If all the extremely favourable conditions above were true, something I don't believe.

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ty vm. ya for some reson my brine just didnt want to try the math i didnt even know where to start and that dosnt happin oftin. ty again for the quick awnser

neonew · 12/19/08, 1:21 PM

im using imp in fight, it is makeing some dps, but overall it's still not quite good as i expect :/ i don't know mb aff will be better but i dont know how to use rotation in hc instances :/ to make quick dps, usually i was using haunt>coa>ua>corr and then immo and sl :/ but its taking too much time to make some dps :/ in raids ofkz it's better beacuse bosses have more Hp :/ do u have any sugestions ?

Gatten · 12/19/08, 1:41 PM

Can anyone tell me what the new moonkin hit cap is? Is haste worth taking over crit, and do moonkins really need spirit?

Mikari · 12/19/08, 2:34 PM

I really hope survival is equal/close to BM, I much prefered the spec in beta before they nerfed explosive to uselessness, it was much more fun to play with Lock and Load procs etc.

oresteez · 12/19/08, 2:54 PM

Originally Posted by neonew

im using imp in fight, it is makeing some dps, but overall it's still not quite good as i expect :/ i don't know mb aff will be better but i dont know how to use rotation in hc instances :/ to make quick dps, usually i was using haunt>coa>ua>corr and then immo and sl :/ but its taking too much time to make some dps :/ in raids ofkz it's better beacuse bosses have more Hp :/ do u have any sugestions ?

such general questions have already been discussed, answered, and discussed 4 more times...just read through the proper thread you are interested in....there's a separate one for each spec...and there's some really awesome suggestions in all of them...it's definitely a good thing to read when you have just hit 80..

Kynectric · 12/19/08, 2:54 PM

Originally Posted by Jynavi

There still isn't a conclusive "best" DW build. Still lots of good discussion about optimal builds and rotations.

lvl80 is probably the best time to start using DW.

For starter weapons, the Wrymrest honored [Fang of Truth] and Ebon Knights revered [Reaper of Dark Souls] are very easy to obtain DW starter weapons. By the time I finished Dragonblight and about 3/4 of Icecrown, I had the required faction for both without doing dailies or championing.

Ah, cool, I'll get started on Icecrown quests then, haha. I'll probably try a deep frost build for my first DW escapade as I've never specced down there before (farthest down I go is 13, heh). Thanks for the response =)

Eilt · 12/19/08, 3:17 PM

Originally Posted by Gatten

Can anyone tell me what the new moonkin hit cap is? Is haste worth taking over crit, and do moonkins really need spirit?

Please read this entire thread as well as the other Moonkin threads in this forum. I believe you will find all of the above questions have been answered. It may also be wise to read the forum guidelines where it mentions asking questions that have been asked/answered numerous times is a good way to get yourself in trouble.

Huntærd · 12/19/08, 3:47 PM

heres where im at, still kind of torn as to what to do with pet buffs, and whether to put things other than CDs in the top NTK frame

any ideas would be super

Graktorn · 12/19/08, 4:47 PM

Does the breathe in 10 man with the drakes up hit as hard as it does in 25 man (up to 50k)?

olindra · 12/19/08, 7:53 PM

Originally Posted by neonew

Hi im a newbie here

and i have a question

can someone tell my what shoul i do to improve my dps ?
i know it's not a best way to ask :P but here is my armory profile The World of Warcraft Armory, i cant reach more than 2,5 dps dunno why :/ i dont know mb it's beacuse of rotation, i dont know the best way how to use my skils in dungeon hc, and in raids :/ if someone could look at my profile and gice me some advice i'll be grateful

Ok a cpl things u may want to try ; one get a timer of sorts, (i use quartz myself seems to not take alot of resources) to help with ur dot uptime, also from reading i have done here it seems that if u use cor instead of ua u lose some dps for destro the rotation seems to be immo ua and cb/incin spam , idk if u are using cor but that change would help, also what glyphs are u using? for a destro build like that ua, immo, and imp are prolly the glyphs u will want to use.
just a few things that may help ur dps :-)

Pawz · 12/19/08, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Sarasper

@Pawz. A bears best stat is armor then avoidance/stam. Hit and expertise are ok but not high on the list.

How much armor/health/dodge should I go for before I run in to Naxx? Just some ballpark numbers.

Mindrila · 12/20/08, 9:22 AM

I love it! I often got carried away in hacking and slashing the bosses, so I forgot to drop my fire totem again, won't happen again

Everytime it gets better and better, nothing to add so far. Keep it up!

Verikon · 12/20/08, 11:44 AM

Its difficult to understand how you rank a guild these days.

coldbear · 12/20/08, 4:12 PM

You don't need the Glyph of Growl unless it's a very specific bossfight. These people are being silly.

If they have trouble with that, send them to this link:

http://www.intriguing.com/mp/_sounds/hg/taunt.wav

Protico · 12/20/08, 5:21 PM

A decent way to test might be to use a private server with .1 speed weapons on an actual boss. On several actual bosses perhaps.

ghepip · 12/20/08, 6:20 PM

Originally Posted by Teohetimokan

Duke's ShadowUI 4.0

clean

target

target+ToT+focus+cast

combat

I like this new UI very much Duke.
Are you at some time in the future concidering just sharing you UIs so you get rid of all the ones asking for it?
I know it can be a hassle, but at least people would stop asking and asking and asking and instead just love your work and share your UIs with other people making more people get an eye open for UI creating

Saurox · 12/20/08, 7:36 PM

haste or agi to cloak for mutilate?

Chickonfire · 12/20/08, 8:16 PM

Originally Posted by poexel

Addons used:

!BugGrabber
!Swatter
Atlas
AtlasLoot
Bartender4
BigWigs
Buffalo
ButtonFacade
Carbonite
Cartographer
ClearFont2
CowTip
DebuffFilter
FuBar
Grid
MikScrollingBattleText
Modality
MrPlow
Omen
OmniCC
OneBag3
oRA2
PitBull
Prat
Quartz
Recount
SexyMap
SlideBar
SunnArt

Which addon is showing that nice timer for "5x Scorch" stack

?
I see it also shows how long you have left to pump out that instant-pyroblast thru Hot Streak, on the left.

Teohetimokan · 12/20/08, 8:56 PM

Originally Posted by ghepip

I like this new UI very much Duke.
Are you at some time in the future concidering just sharing you UIs so you get rid of all the ones asking for it?
I know it can be a hassle, but at least people would stop asking and asking and asking and instead just love your work and share your UIs with other people making more people get an eye open for UI creating

I shared my V3.2 on mmo-champion forum, a guy took it and he made some shitty changes with it for 1280/1024 resolution... and posted it on the same forum, credited me but it's still crapy. So no i dont want upload UIs.