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Old 12/23/08, 10:03 AM   #1501
Levidian
Piston Honda
 
Tauren Hunter
 
Executus
Originally Posted by sheer View Post
"We want to lay traps on boss mobs".

Of course we do, hence my question, one which I was hoping a PTR fella be kind enough to answer, will Freezing Arrow activate the Lock and Load effect, when used on a boss?
They need to replace Immolation Trap and Explosive trap with Immolation arrow and Explosive arrow.

I think that pretty much solves the situation of having to dance around like retards to maximize dps.
 
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Old 12/23/08, 10:50 AM   #1502
wrathwithin09
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Icecrown
my hit is in good standing at 8% , now if only i could keep up with dps, , my spellpower unbuffed is nasty, im 0/41/30. im replacing some gear with frostsavage and getting some better enchants
 
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Old 12/23/08, 10:52 AM   #1503
wrathwithin09
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Icecrown
im 0/41/30, hit rate is good, spellpower is bad for me im not a 1000 unbuffed yet and would like to know what im doing wrong
 
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Old 12/23/08, 10:54 AM   #1504
wrathwithin09
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Icecrown
Originally Posted by Akj View Post
Anub'rekhan - to avoid impale entirely or just fall damage in the worst case.
Grand Widow - to avoid rain of fire
Maexxna - to get back quickly after getting webbed
Kel'thuzad - moving for detonate mana & shadow fissures

Dont forget to refresh demonic circle on long fights like sartharion with drakes.
guess ill recomend demonic circle for maexxna to the locks in my guild
 
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Old 12/23/08, 11:00 AM   #1505
wrathwithin09
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Icecrown
im 0/41/30, need advice on better gear, also a tailor, spellpower ammount is looking nasty until i add 4 or 5 frostsavage gear
 
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Old 12/23/08, 11:13 AM   #1506
brandiabka
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Shadowsong
Originally Posted by Rezdan View Post
For BM, the shot rotation only changes slightly with Arcane Shot being added to our rotation. It will basically be spammed whenever, but can also be used right before renewing Serpent Sting. Aimed shot would also be an optional shot to spam if you spec that way.

The BM rotation does not change drastically, and the change can be reduced to one additional line in your shot rotation macro.


Ok cool ty i will pass this info along to the other BM hunters in the guild as i am sure they are curious also
 
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Old 12/23/08, 12:07 PM   #1507
Floggin
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Human Death Knight
 
Shadowsong
Originally Posted by Sevexe View Post
Night of the dead also gives 35%/70% avoidance to AoE damage (spell i believe) to DK pets... now im unsure if this was tested to prove if it helps Gargoyle survivability or not, but it definately helps the ghoul survive longer.

on another note.. IT and PS both do X amount of damage... then tick for X amount of damage over their duration...

what I want to know is if putting 2 points into epidemic increases the during at the same tick value it would be at from the regular 12 second dot... which would be a decent damage increase for the 2 points... or if it instead takes the damage it does over the total duration and splits it up more making each tick for less for the longer period of time...

the reason why I ask this is... if DW specs are constantly casting IT again well before the disease dot fully ticks off... it would be gimping the damage to get epidemic if it deceases each individual tick... sure it'd make PS ticks last longer.. but with all the increased damage we get for IT.. wouldnt it overall be a decease?

anyway, if someone knows id love to find out...
Interesting thought, Any ideas?
 
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Old 12/23/08, 12:41 PM   #1508
Zomglazerpew
Glass Joe
 
Orc Shaman
 
Mal'Ganis
Storm, Earth and Fire: This talent has been moved up in the tree, and it’s talent points have been reduced to 3 down from 5. Wind Shock is also included in the range increase (with Earth Shock). The damage bonus to Flame Shock has been increased, up from 10/20/30/40/50 to 20/40/60.

Thats from the latest PTR patch, says nothing about changing the actual stats on the CD, just says it was reduced in points because it was moved up in the tree.
 
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Old 12/23/08, 12:46 PM   #1509
atliens
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Stonemaul
Originally Posted by Neza View Post
Raidshot:


Addon List:



(I am never happy with my Ui :< )
Which addon is monitoring the Hot Streak proc in the left center?
Which addon tracks the cooldown timer on the buttons? I tried Proximo to no avail.
 
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Old 12/23/08, 1:14 PM   #1510
Infuria
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Blood Elf Rogue
 
Cenarion Circle
Thanks, Gwystyl. Thanks for the link, as well!
 
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Old 12/23/08, 2:53 PM   #1511
Trouble
Bald Bull
 
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Blood Elf Warlock
 
Turalyon
I can't say how much glee the nerfs to CoH are bringing me. Maybe this isn't the appropriate thread, but I have to cavort with joy somewhere. Seeing priests literally doubling and tripling everyone else's healing on a large number of fights has gotten annoying and I'm looking forward to contributing a larger percentage of the healing to the raid.
 
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Old 12/23/08, 5:07 PM   #1512
Agarober123
Glass Joe
 
Human Mage
 
Proudmoore
With these new changes to arcane, will it be worth it to go 18/53/0 or should i respec to an arcane build? and if i should respec what does the current arcane build look like?
 
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Old 12/23/08, 7:36 PM   #1513
sephfiroth
Von Kaiser
 
Undead Rogue
 
Malorne
Man, this is gonna take some getting used to.
 
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Old 12/23/08, 8:41 PM   #1514
Icea
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Shadowsong (EU)
First of all I would like to say that the following comment only concerns PvE, because I think rogues still are very strong in PvP (maybe even too strong when fighting warlocks).

The sole purpose of a rogue in pve imo is, and always has been to deal heavy single target dmg. No matter what changes Blizzard have made since day 1, there have always been a way for a skilled rogue to occationally top the meters in many boss fights. This is what have changed with WotLK, now the only way to top the meters is exploits:S.

Ive always played rogue, Ive raided hardcore at times and some times Ive played more casual, but Ive always felt that thrill from trying to beat other good dmgdealers on meters. Now I mostly feel the agony from having to fight like a maniac to stay above other melee classes with much greater survivability and diversity than the rogueclass, like retribution paladins and dps warriors (with the warriors beating me in many fight I'm supposed to own, like thaddius and patch). In Vanilla WoW and TBC I was consistently a top 5 dpser, in WotLK with pretty much the same ppl as TBC Im now struggleing to stay in top 10. Equally geared warlocks, hunters, SPs and mages are pretty much untouchable, and in combat spec Im often beaten by fury wars and DKs, and struggleing with retri palas, shamans and tanks (DK and Feral if there are multiple mobs). Might be because Ive always been a crappy player only beeing able to do good dps, because I was a rogue, but since Ive always been one of the better rogues in my guilds I dont think thats the issue... I think we have been balanced into oblivion.

From my perspective Blizzards idea of balancing has now reached a level where the pure dps classes have become greatly inferior to multispec classes, because we will never be able to offer the same diversity and now we can only at best offer the same dps. I can understand why Im beeing beaten on trash where AoE dmg gets the job done as it is now and tbh I dont care about that, Im not an AoE class and I dont want to be one, eventhough its my AoE dmg abilities Blizzard consistently have buffed and seems to keep buffing in WotLK. If I wanted to be able to AoE I would have rolled a mage or a warlock...

Regarding specs I must admit that I havent tried subt yet in WotLK, since I dont want to use the HaT bug and make us look better than we are (and thereby contribute to Blizzard overrating rogue dps as it is now). But neither in Muti nor Combat (Fist/dagger) have been able to get up where I think a rogue should belong (at best Im 3-5 on patch if I get all group buffs), but more often Im 6-7ish. This really pains me since my time to shine is supposed to be when I deal heavy dmg. With the threat tanks deal these days our low threat per dmg has become useless as well, and ToT is only useful if you have another rogue in the raid whom can return the favour.

It can even be hard to get a raidspot now because it doesnt matter what class you bring dpswise, and since all other classes in some way can contribute with buffs/debuffs a medicore arms warrior or enhc. shaman can sometimes be better to bring than a good rogue, because they with their buffs increase the overall dps more then the difference between a rogue and other melee classes. Ive yet to see the day my RL tells me that Im in because they find it amazing that I can move around in stealth, pickpocket, or because I in the future might be able to take only 50% of the AoE dmg that will easily be avoided by ranged dps.


After reading what I just wrote, I can see that Ive done something I swore I'd never do... Ive made a whinepost, but hope Ive managed to address the issues that atm is making many rogues sad pandas and thereby added to the discussion by making more brilliant minds than me think about solutions.
I truely deeply feel that Blizzards approch towards balancing the dps of all dpsclasses is making a pure dps class, as rogues are, very much less desirable to play.
 
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Old 12/24/08, 12:18 AM   #1515
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I'm not crazy, no, really, I'm not.
 
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Askledarea
Blood Elf Shaman
 
No WoW Account
Then tell me how a talent that reduces the cooldown by 0.5 seconds every point manages to do 2.5 with 3 points where it used to do 2.5 with 5 points. The other parts were mentioned because they did change...

Originally Posted by Nite_Moogle View Post
my surpriseometer isn't registering anything here
is it broken
 
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Old 12/24/08, 2:40 AM   #1516
Kuruption
Glass Joe
 
Troll Shaman
 
Aegwynn
I am 15 i dont understand how to use this? do i install it as a addon? or what?
 
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Old 12/24/08, 4:05 AM   #1517
r0guebl00d
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Hydraxis
What gems should I put in my T7 chest and legs? My
hit ratings kinda low but im not really sure what I should do, please post back, thanks!!!!
 
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Old 12/24/08, 7:04 AM   #1518
Moorokos
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Shaman
 
Eldre'Thalas
It may be buried in here somewhere.. but is there a general rotation for frost tanking?
 
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Old 12/24/08, 8:30 AM   #1519
EuStormrageFeralDruid
Banned
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Stormrage (EU)
Originally Posted by unitsinc View Post
No, he was correct about cloaks. We get the "base" armor value. To find that, do exactly as he said and find an equivalent ilevel caster or dps cloak and take that armor value and it gets all of our multipliers. Any remaining armor from the value shown and the base is not multiplied.

Urgh, thanks for this info because I interpreted the blue post completely different.
 
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Old 12/24/08, 11:20 AM   #1520
elemento2000
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Dun Modr (EU)
Hi:

I have just change to blood. Right now my rotation is

My rotation:
IT > PS > HS > HS OB. When I finish I begin again with the same rotation. Can I improve it?

Right now my hit rating is 249, which is the best hit rating that I have to get?

Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old 12/24/08, 11:47 AM   #1521
Shadowseve
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Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Kirin Tor
Thanks

Hey guys' I've been reading EJ for a while and this is my first post. Just wanted to say thanks for all the info in the different dk post. I have learned a lot from reading.

Hope u guys have a merry Christmas. May you get all the drops you're raiding for :-).
 
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Old 12/24/08, 12:06 PM   #1522
Trammell
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Misha
Yup, your right. I added the dodge feature and the % matched up exactly. Thank you for confirming my suspicion

Thanks
Daler
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Old 12/24/08, 12:32 PM   #1523
Perini
Von Kaiser
 
Undead Rogue
 
Silvermoon
Got PvE?
 
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Old 12/24/08, 1:19 PM   #1524
Drdoog
Banned
 
Undead Priest
 
Durotan
wow didnt think it was that high!

Thanks for the many replies I appreciate it!

I was told the resilience cap was 600 ...wow I was far ahead from it that's why I'm taking such a beating! lol
Therefore you are probably right stacking resilience will be the key to survive vs any melee class.

I will post an other reply later about the other stuff you talked about...

Your comments really help me thanks alot!

[quote=woobsauce;1026636]

The new resil cap is ~1230 Resilience. Best meta is a Trenchant Earthshatter Diamond. Although, that is subject to discussion, I feel gemming for stam is a crutch.
 
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Old 12/24/08, 1:40 PM   #1525
DerBob
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Frostwolf (EU)
To Savantido and Led: great job as always.

To the mod: /me you!

My UI:


Last edited by DerBob : 12/24/08 at 1:49 PM.
 
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