Thread of Ultimate Suck - Page 78

Eliza · 01/16/09, 7:48 AM

Originally Posted by Sympa

I've been mulling over this thread and the UI's posted about how we can better display the information. Recently I've also received some questions about the goal I have in mind for how I set up my own UI. To answer these questions I've made a photoshop mockup of what I'd like in the end. I've also been reading the UI forums and seen some interesting debate between displaying information in a horizontal bar format vs a more vertical one.

To address the concerns of an addon not displaying information clearly enough by using a left to right type approach, EG one horizontal bar that is actually 6 rune timers like have been posted. What about this?

Just have each bar listed as a priority type thing similar to an option magic runes has. Whichever bar will be up next would be listed at the top right under the runic power bar. I've posted more about this on my blog. Can visit in the link below or by clicking the image. I'd like to get some discussion going about this and see what you guys think.

Wrong topic. There is already a "discussion" thread about a Rune Addon: Death Knight rune addons: How can we do better?
This thread here is about to post your DK UI.

And no, your "better" is not really better. Tastes are different.

DMCASHEW04 · 01/16/09, 12:01 PM

I am loving the fact that we don't have any feral droods in the guild atm.

EDIT: JE > Betrayer

butzemann · 01/16/09, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by ALZA1

My current UI, heavily enspired by Led++ interfaces.

Solo, no target:

Raid (slacking... ehm i mean getting The Twilight Zone achievement^^):

Addon list:

More space, more hotkeys, more toogle, 2 colors, 1 texture, 1 font, 1 scale (c)

Much work around lua coding here: oUF unitframes, custom made minimap, many small tweaks and addon changes.
Any suggestions and feedback? Would be great to hear it.

P.S. And sorry for cyrillic letters on screenshots :<

Awesome Interface. As MT of our Guild this is exactly what i need to improve my gameplay. Is it possible to release the OUF Layout?

Hyperial · 01/16/09, 12:19 PM

Thanks for clearing that up.

Blightmuffin · 01/16/09, 2:19 PM

Okay thanks for the advice regarding PW:S. I'll be very open to it now and lose the old rooted opinions

Hyperial · 01/16/09, 3:03 PM

Thanks for the correction, I had no intention of getting praise for answering my own questions, just shows how lazy I was and actually proves how little I know.

My comment was genuine in the fact that had I not been criticized I would have never found the solution to my problem.

rv77145 · 01/16/09, 6:08 PM

i dunno if this is just my server or what because i havent seen this rotation used on any forums.

i was wondering what is the optimal rotation for enhance shaman

one rotation:
FS-SS-LL-and if malestrom isnt up LB
basically u repeat this throwing in Chain Lightning when malestrom is up and LB wen SS and LL are on CD

rotation two:
the standard ES rotation we all know.

also i was wondering would this be a matter of glyphs or something

WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Shaman -> Talent Calculator

this is usually my spec wen raidin/quest but open to alterations

i was wondering if maybe the simulator could shed some light on whether the Lava Burst or Earth Shock rotation was best and what was the optimal spec for raid dps.

Also im curious if Static Shock is good or not.

Odiuz · 01/16/09, 6:18 PM

How much the 4T7 bonus give in spell power?

FuzzyBuddy · 01/16/09, 7:32 PM

Originally Posted by trekka

As of Build 9464 on PTR, it now appears the Predatory Strikes weapon AP bonus applies to the STR that was converted to AP on feral staves. It does not however apply to weapon enchants.

That is great news. I had not been back on the PTR to retest this myself, but I shamelessly used your data to post a new bug on the PTR forum stating either a broken mechanic for AP from enchants or a tooltip verbiage issue.

Xythil · 01/16/09, 9:00 PM

Is Webbed/Sinister pulling ahead of Webbed/Webbed, or is double webbed deaths still the way to go?

blacksting · 01/17/09, 12:09 AM

i would like to share my Dk DW tanking build you guys this is 1 i came up with u get increased resistances and longer duration on IBF while not picking up icy talons / imp Icy talons to reduce ur change to be parry gibbed. ive seen alot of people try and make builds that i just didnt understand what they where doing.

if ur unsure on a AoE rotation try this.
place a death anbd decay before u pull.
Icy touch, Plague Strike, Pestiliance, Blood Boil, Howling blast,
if u lose AoE aggro pop Hungering Cold and hit Death Chill then smack ur middle target with Howling Blast

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...h=190906050406

the gems i use for survial / threat is.
8 Deffence Rating / 12 Stamina
8 Expertise / 8 Hit rating

DarkJytsu · 01/17/09, 4:35 AM

Originally Posted by Khaosknight

As a frost spec, why the heck do you have Death Rune mastery? As for your spec, it could use some work, you sacrifice 10% AP for 6% more damage with only spells/abilities. AP scales with spells / abilities as well as white damage. It's also a raid buff, rather then just a self buff.

Unless I am mistaken, AP doesn't scale with anything other that white swings. All of the spells/abilities are based on raw STR.
I too have questioned taking AM over TS, but it has been proven (mathematically) on this thread that TS>AM, unless no-one else is providing that raid buff. That is the only way that would be viable. Otherwise, TS wins hands down.

Shimerra · 01/17/09, 4:55 AM

And what does strength do? Gives you attack power. The key difference between the two is that strength is scaled up by raid buffs like kings and various talents making it the more desired stat in pretty much every scenario.

DarkJytsu · 01/17/09, 5:18 AM

Originally Posted by Shimerra

And what does strength do? Gives you attack power. The key difference between the two is that strength is scaled up by raid buffs like kings and various talents making it the more desired stat in pretty much every scenario.

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kcvip · 01/17/09, 6:27 AM

Madarame · 01/17/09, 6:53 AM

here is mine:

i like art addons

krilz · 01/17/09, 7:30 AM

Here's a question from me about affliction:
If, say, Haunt and some other DOT fall off the exact same time, which should be recast first for highest DPS?

Aeronx · 01/17/09, 8:10 AM

Originally Posted by Crax

Please... read the thread. Frost tanking rotations, threat generation... all of this has been discussed within the last 10 pages... and probably within the last 5. New people asking the same questions, over and over is a quick way to make this thread useless.

Sorry, I just didnt find it! I tried but everybody is talking about unholy tanking :/! Anyway I'll try it again.

Sorry again.

alkash · 01/17/09, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by stedfunk

20% mutilate damage > 2% crit, switch your spec and you'll see an increase in DPS. The slower weapon goes in the MH because you want instant poison in your offhand AND on your quicker weapon because there's a bug with mutilate where you get 2 offhand poison procs when you mutilate. Berserking is the best PVE enchant at the moment. Master Poisoner does not stack with ret paladins 3% crit buff and elemental shaman crit buff so if you have one of those in your raid (which you should) you take turn the tables.

can u explain this muti bug with instant poison, or give me link were i can read this inf? And if u are right then Master Poisoner doesn't stack with elem 5% crit buff and warrior 5% crit buff? can give me link for this inf too plz?

Monedula · 01/17/09, 11:11 AM

Also talking on threat your iMangle does about 3% threat for 3 talent points. If you want to let threat go remove those 3 as well.

I don't know what you tank normally, but a high amount of threat is very nice when you are swiping packs and there are a lot of people aoe-ing.
Also you need all the threat you can get on Malygos (At times the rest of the raid does 200% damage = 200% threat of normal). I have seen some overagro's on that one.

At the moment you have a lot of talents not really needed or usable in tanking.
Primal tenacity is more of a pvp stat then pve. Predatory Instincts has no effect. I seldom use Demoralising Roar which makes Feral Aggression not that good either. I don't know how Infected wounds would work on raidbosses. I don't use it. Found this:

The attack-slowing effect works on bosses which aren't immune to disease.

So it will effect some bosses but not all making this talent not that good either.

The best pure tanking build I can think of is the following:
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
The one point in shredding attacks is an extra point that I don't really know how to place.

thebee · 01/17/09, 12:52 PM

Yah I assumed that Predatory Instincts worked in bear too. Now that I read it again, it really only implies cat. Yah totally bone headed the whole post I made.

Is it just me or does it seem that if you wanted to purely bear tank that are talents dont seem distributed correctly?

sixstring · 01/17/09, 1:58 PM

Originally Posted by ALZA1

My current UI, heavily enspired by Led++ interfaces.

Solo, no target:

Raid (slacking... ehm i mean getting The Twilight Zone achievement^^):

Addon list:

More space, more hotkeys, more toogle, 2 colors, 1 texture, 1 font, 1 scale (c)

Much work around lua coding here: oUF unitframes, custom made minimap, many small tweaks and addon changes.
Any suggestions and feedback? Would be great to hear it.

P.S. And sorry for cyrillic letters on screenshots :<

amazing ui. will definately be stealing a few ideas from this! What are you using to show the aura and buttons cooldowns? a modifed omnicc or is there an option within omnicc that allows you to reposition?

edit : got it! just had to modify omnicc

Orcuz · 01/17/09, 5:36 PM

/Agree with Neto tbh

mobarabian · 01/18/09, 1:46 AM

I'm at a lost of words for Ele at this point. After Sunwell, it went all down hill. My question about rotations, is that, is it my rotation that I use, my gear or is it ele that makes me almost last every single time on the Dps chart? I mean my guild is top server, so its a competition for the top spot.

My Armory: The World of Warcraft Armory

I run a pretty standard rotation with the FS Glyph that doesn't becomed Consume, the rotation goes:
FS, LvB, CL, LB until LvB is up, LvB, CL, LB until... etc Renewing FS right before the third LvB.

Sorry if this is the wrong place, my question has mostly to do with rotations but yes, thanks for the future help.

Vysc · 01/18/09, 3:25 AM

Well, I am new here and I'd figure I would share my UI. Wasn't sure where to put the MicroMenu bar, so I put it under the map for now.

Addons:
Ag_UnitFrames
Bartender4
ButtonFacade
ButtonFacade_Caith
Chatter
ForteXorcist
MagicRunes
MSBT
Omen
SatrinaBuffFrame

Let me know what you think and I am open for suggestions too.