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Old 01/18/09, 4:45 AM   #1951
jaffee
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Old 01/18/09, 4:52 AM   #1952
Inorrri
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This will be a cross-post in most of the class-specific subforums, sorry if it's wrong place to ask, but didn't find better.

I'm planning to organize pugs for 25-man raids (OS, VoA and possibly Nax) on regular basis and I would like to know stats of your friendly next door DK (dps) that can be useful in a raid. I don't want to be elitist, so let's say the person has already started doing heroics and some 10-man raids, but doesn't have the best gear he can get from it per slot. What stats should I expect from such DK?
 
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Old 01/18/09, 4:57 AM   #1953
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This will be a cross-post in most of the class-specific subforums, sorry if it's wrong place to ask, but didn't find better.

I'm planning to organize pugs for 25-man raids (OS, VoA and possibly Nax) on regular basis and I would like to know stats of your friendly next door Shaman (dps and healer) that can be useful in a raid. I don't want to be elitist, so let's say the person has already started doing heroics and some 10-man raids, but doesn't have the best gear he can get from it per slot. What stats should I expect from such Shaman?
 
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Old 01/18/09, 4:58 AM   #1954
Inorrri
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This will be a cross-post in most of the class-specific subforums, sorry if it's wrong place to ask, but didn't find better.

I'm planning to organize pugs for 25-man raids (OS, VoA and possibly Nax) on regular basis and I would like to know stats of your friendly next door Warlock that can be useful in a raid. I don't want to be elitist, so let's say the person has already started doing heroics and some 10-man raids, but doesn't have the best gear he can get from it per slot. What stats should I expect from such Warlock?
 
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Old 01/18/09, 4:58 AM   #1955
Inorrri
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This will be a cross-post in most of the class-specific subforums, sorry if it's wrong place to ask, but didn't find better.

I'm planning to organize pugs for 25-man raids (OS, VoA and possibly Nax) on regular basis and I would like to know stats of your friendly next door Warrior (dps) that can be useful in a raid. I don't want to be elitist, so let's say the person has already started doing heroics and some 10-man raids, but doesn't have the best gear he can get from it per slot. What stats should I expect from such Warrior?
 
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Old 01/18/09, 6:33 AM   #1956
Eliza
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Originally Posted by Sympa View Post
As for you.. well. Grats on not reading my OP or any of the rest of my posts.
Is flaming the only thing you can do? Sad.

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So, for topic: My UI looks like this: http://deponie.org/wow/WoWScrnShot_011809_113110.jpg

Changed font, love the one obble uses.

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Old 01/18/09, 10:05 AM   #1957
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Indeed... Haha
 
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Old 01/18/09, 4:46 PM   #1958
Nefertiri
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Night Elf Death Knight
 
Aerie Peak
Originally Posted by Raedix View Post
Of course it's hard to tell from this thread what sort of caps you should be shooting for. That's like coming to this thread and complaining that we're not telling you how to read the English language so you can get the information you need. These things are basic pieces of knowledge that you can get, for example, at wowwiki, or in the class-agnostic mechanic forums. But since you haven't done any research on your own before you ask people for help, you have no idea what you are even talking about. Since I'm a nice guy, I'll answer your questions so you can continue to avoid figuring anything out yourself.

The Defense cap is, indeed 540. The expertise dodge softcap is 6.5%. The expertise parry hardcap is around 15%. The melee special hit cap is 8%. The spell hit cap is 17%. The Dodge cap is around 88%, the Parry cap is around 42%, but you would need an infinite dodge and parry rating to get to the cap, as Diminishing Returns make the cap asymptotic.

The caps you are expected to reach before tanking any raid content are: the Defense Cap.
The caps you should be expected to reach coming out of Naxx25 are: the Expertise Dodge softcap, the Melee Hit cap.
Thank you. My apologies for breaking the rules.

Last edited by Nefertiri : 01/18/09 at 4:52 PM.
 
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Old 01/18/09, 5:22 PM   #1959
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i want to start raiding

I have a mage i have been tinkering with forever now, and am approaching 80. I have never really instanced with her but did do one the other night. My dps was poor (lvl 78 and 763 dps) and would like to know where to start looking to help build my mage? Most of the threads and posts go way beyond where I am at and after a bit have me more confused than ever. Currently I am specced fire and have been exclusively which I'm sure isn't helping my cause.
 
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Old 01/19/09, 1:40 AM   #1960
MCABoy24
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Detheroc
I haven't read through the whole thing but by chance might there be a good Fury Spec for PvP Warriors? I was considering something like WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Warrior -> Talent Calculator
 
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Old 01/19/09, 3:47 AM   #1961
Gamil
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Originally Posted by Gamil View Post
During trying "Heroic: You Don't Have An Eternity" our druids while catching sparks are complains about "A more powerfull spell is already active" when they trying to recast roots. I do not agree that its becouse of diminishing returns. (druids have DR in PvE only Cyclone and Celestial Focus Diminishing returns - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft )
Nevertheless they very often experience some troubles with recasting roots on their own marked sparks. So they use different ranks of Roots: 6th, 7th and 8th. (no trink procs and SP increase this time)

Can anybody say something about it ? Or say how you hold 4-5 sparks in one point.
I see, nobody knows about this problem ((( Druids do not have any trinkets procing on SP. And there was troubles with roots recasting.
Done "Heroic: You Don't Have An Eternity" on good luck last week Get 2 DKs and 4 Druids for this achievment.
 
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Old 01/19/09, 4:39 AM   #1962
Janne12
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Stormreaver (EU)
Originally Posted by Olddrippy View Post
holy crap, moonkin aren't even close to sucking....read the moonkin for dummies thread and try out the basics.
The fun thing is... nvm I'll go read it again
 
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Old 01/19/09, 5:26 AM   #1963
deathb
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Human Death Knight
 
Quel'dorei
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Hello , I just wanted to comment on thi ice bound fortitude and bone armor nerfs.I know sometimes it seems DK's are op (and mayby they are)but wasnt that supposed to be the point of a heroic class i mean come on.If they get too nerfed i just dont see the point in heroic being there.nerf one but not the other.I think it is too much at once personally.
 
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Old 01/19/09, 6:36 AM   #1964
Misaki
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Draenei Hunter
 
Kazzak (EU)
Question - Why's everyone puttin Raptor by default? - Was it proven to be a best dps pet than a Cat for a Survival/MM Spec?

Sorry if this was mentioned before, tried to search but found nothing
 
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Old 01/19/09, 7:30 AM   #1965
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Originally Posted by Mastahshake View Post
Another thing you should focus on is crit. I realize your gear isn't done yet, but it seems to be that you only have around 21% crit in form. The more often you crit (which is why IFF is so helpful) the more mana you regain, thus the less points you have to spend on mana regen talents. I've also noticed you're way over the hitcap, and can probably rethink some of your chants//gems. The hit softcap is 227, so lets round up and say 230. The reason for this is that you've got yourself the opportunity for a friendly neighborhood space cow (thank gods for alliance eh?). The 1% there, plus the 3% from IFF//Misery and the last 4% from BoP is 8%. Include your 9% from ~230 hit and you've reached 17%. You're sitting at 319 hit. You can certainly drop 40-50 hit rating and be almost guaranteed to be above the hitcap.
Thank you... I'll modify all things following your advice...
To Do:
- change 3 talents point from Dreamstate to Improved Faire Fire
- reduce spell haste (done)
- reduce hit rating from 319 to 240
- increase critical hit

Tonight we'll try Military WIng (normal)... i'll take this raid as test.
Thank you so much...

To add some info about this thread... and to confirm that my actual build is not good for a dps:
yesterday i've done HoL with a good party. All OK except my dps... 1600!!! Not good... I haven't drink any mana potions, no mana issues, but my DPS is become terrible. Probably I've to do something "in the middle"
 
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Old 01/19/09, 2:54 PM   #1966
wildhealer
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Tauren Druid
 
Warsong
Ok, and about rotation.

i am use MF, IS, Wrath span, Proc eclipse use SF , Eclipse hi, repeat the rontation initial.

Look my gear and talents in armore and tell me if this is a best rotation, plz.

Atualy i get 4600 on patchwork with this rotation.


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Old 01/19/09, 6:31 PM   #1967
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Night Elf Rogue
 
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Stormscale (EU)
Hello! What is generally considered to be the best single-target pve-damage spec right now, and why?
 
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Old 01/19/09, 11:17 PM   #1968
breed
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Night Elf Druid
 
Staghelm
I'm basically wondering whether the grasscutter is better than the omen of ruin for a hunter. Like, how much armor percentage does ArP take off per rating point? I have looked on all of the wiki. I think its the grasscutter.

Thanks!
 
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Old 01/20/09, 7:44 AM   #1969
oddism
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Blackrock
Hey mate, nice UI. Any chance you could upload it for me somewhere? Cheers!
 
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Old 01/20/09, 7:49 AM   #1970
Gungne
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Dwarf Paladin
 
Nethersturm (EU)
How does 3.0.8 affect which poison to use for a mutliate rogue? I heard something about IP on Mainhand and DP on OH.... Is that true?
 
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Old 01/20/09, 1:47 PM   #1971
sliverr
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Korgath
I am making the switch from 50/21 bm to survival and want to make sure my understanding of the optimal survival spec/geming/rotation/pet/etc is correct to insure optimal dps.

1: spec: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

is this close to what I am looking at for the cookie cutter max dps surv spec

2: gem/ench

agi > ap?

3: pet: raptor > cat?

Pet Calculator - Wowhead

4: shot rotation

Explosive Shot > Kill Shot > Serpent Sting > Aimed Shot > Steady Shot

no arcane shot?

5: macro

anyone have one?



thanks in advance.
 
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Old 01/20/09, 2:16 PM   #1972
saedo
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Originally Posted by Mideci View Post
Not to be a pedant, but the English-language way to say this is "gets worse". If it "gets worst", you'd be saying (poorly), it becomes the lowest-value, i.e. worst profession. What you appear to be saying instead is that it loses value. And the way to say that is "gets worse."
All right, I apologize, I have the wrong word in my mind for it. But grammatically speaking, "gets worst" isn't correct either for my misunderstood meaning. It would have to be "becomes worst" or "gets to be the worst" for it to truly make sense for it to become lowest-value.
 
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Old 01/20/09, 2:21 PM   #1973
lumadar
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The Forgotten Coast
Quite the interesting thread. I am working on figuring out how I want to max out my HIT right now, so I will keep a close eye on this topic.
 
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Old 01/20/09, 6:28 PM   #1974
Badjujus
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Undead Rogue
 
Frostmane
With patch today this is now implemented, Sounds good... But personally i feel Like the melee range requirement is holding it back.

Any thoughts?
 
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Old 01/20/09, 6:30 PM   #1975
chillenah
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Night Elf Druid
 
Ursin
i dont get it!

hey im a full pve resto druid ive got decent gear for how long ive been raiding...but i still come behind most people in healing and mana gained...my gear is all out spirit and mana regen and ive got bout 1650 unbuffed in tree and i still get out healed by other druids...i mean i understand pallys and priests but other druids out healin me is makin me mad plus how im last on mana regen...is there anyway i can get any advice on how to heal/fix my mana regen problem without gettin laughed at?

P.S. i am aware im probly bad compared to many of you but i have to start some where
 
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