Thread of Ultimate Suck - Page 81

Soximus · 01/21/09, 1:05 PM

I apologize for the poor forum etiquette, but I was really hoping that my earlier post (#1922, page 77) could get some love! Thanks in advance.

DerayWoW · 01/21/09, 3:52 PM

I'de have to say that i find Face Melter to be an addon that i find very usefull for shadow. You can customize your debuff order so it's much more visable as to what you should do next. There is a problem with SW:P and when it gets refreshed the timer on face melter dosn't so it can get stuck on SW:P. A simple solution is to move it to the number 6 slot and just do your first rotation as you normaly would. and you'll wont have to deal with it being stuck on the SW:P icon.

OblivionBL · 01/21/09, 5:06 PM

Originally Posted by RADRyanD

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That's a link to Naxxramas last night as 0/32/39. MH was Angry Dread at the time. Still managed to put out some great numbers on Patchwerk (Was my highest to be put out {5200} since I was tanking last week). This is in response to my original post for people that was curious for the parse.

rotation u used plz? do u think u can keep those numbers post patch also?

Veliaf · 01/21/09, 5:33 PM

Well, I can sea the angler you're coming from, but I wouldn't want to go overboard on jokes if I were you. Don't go fishing for compliments either.

Winco · 01/21/09, 5:44 PM

Thanks a lot for posting this addon, Dukes.

Kargesh · 01/21/09, 5:47 PM

This one is my first time to wrote in here (German, please be patient with my English)

I have read a lot here about Sv Macros, and i have testet a lot.

Here are my Macros which i´m using. Glyphs: Sting, Steady, Hawk .. Spec see my Charlink. (SV) with Cat. €:: Respec Today! It is not online yet.

Rota: Set Sting, then set "DMG-Macro" then set "Spam-Macro". There is time to set the Sting into the Spam-Macro while you are spaming and there is no time malus (With my Gear Setup) Please tell me if there is any Malus with higher Haste.

Please check this out.

Dmg-Macro:

German:

/use 13
/use 14
/cast Schnellfeuer
/cast Kochendes Blut

English:

/use 13
/use 14
/cast Rapid Fire
/cast Blood Fury

Spam-Macro

German:

/script UIErrorsFrame:UnregisterEvent("UI_ERROR_MESSAGE");
/cast !Automatischer Schuss
/cast Tödlicher Schuss
/cast Fass!
/castrandom Explosivschuss, Explosivschuss, Explosivschuss, Mehrfachschuss, Zuverlässiger Schuss, Gezielter Schuss

English:

/script UIErrorsFrame:UnregisterEvent("UI_ERROR_MESSAGE");
/cast !Auto Shot
/cast Kill Shot
/cast Kill Command
/castrandom Explosive Shot, Explosive Shot, Explosive Shot, Multi-Shot, Steady Shot, Aimed Shot

Before 3.0.8 i have a 2.2 K DPS, now i have a 2.8 K DPS @ Hero Paper Guy

mhberglas · 01/21/09, 6:03 PM

Originally Posted by Relwin

In closing, L2P scrubs.

I want to be able to spend as much time as possible looking at the playing field, I find doing this improves my usefulness in group/raid play. While watching the playing field I am able to react to things that occur, like a mob running towards the healer, or a mob that would be a perfect target for a freezing arrow, as examples.

My shot macro keeps my eye off my action bar (or quartz bars), which is good. Perhaps this could stimulate a discussion on tips to avoid staring at your action bars without resorting to macros (and possibly even AddOns), because I personally don't really have any and tips like that would be rather useful to know.

By the tone of your post I presume you have already L2P'ed, so why not grace us with some constructive tips.

Saladin · 01/21/09, 6:05 PM

Evening gents. After everyone fled BM like a sinking ship with the patch, I decided to stick with it and prove them wrong. Unfortunately, I tend to lag quite a bit in the 25-man content I usually run, so I was attracted to the laziest solution possible. Thus I devised the following series of 3 macros that will perform the most optimal "lazy bot" DPS available to BM Spec. Using this macro chain I achieved 2nd DPS on 25-man Arch and 1st DPS on 10-man Arch (AKA, the Target Dummy That Moves), with poor gear, glyphs, and enhancements.

NOTE: This macro chain will not provide the maximum BM DPS possible. However, it will provide close to that while simplifying your entire DPS rotation into a single keystroke that you do not have to monitor. Its purpose is for those players who lag too much to manually time their rotations, or who have a hard time focusing on the raid fight due to maintaining their rotation.

This macro is set up across three buttons next to each other. They are currently my MultiBarRight buttons, but you can reconfigure the /click commands to any that you like.

It is split into 2 "buff" parts that will activate your self-buffs on every cooldown, followed by a 3rd "action macro. You lose some DPS due to not syncing the proper cooldowns together or saving others for Bloodlust, but you also gain some by having the maximum possible uptime on them.

Self-Buff I

#showtooltip steady shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/script UIErrorsFrame:UnregisterEvent("UI_ERROR_MESSAGE");
/cast bestial wrath
/cast kill command
/cast call of the wild
/click MultiBarRightButton4

Self-Buff II

/cast blood fury
/use 13
/use 14
/cast [target=focus] roar of sacrifice
/cast Kill Shot
/click MultiBarRightButton5

Action

/castsequence reset=target serpent sting, arcane shot, steady shot, steady shot, steady shot, arcane shot, steady shot, steady shot, steady shot, arcane shot, steady shot, steady shot, steady shot, steady shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1

And there you have it. The laziest macro ever made--certainly not for the faint of heart. Yet surprisingly effective.

Namless · 01/21/09, 6:22 PM

Thanks for the input, so far. I guess I'll just keep stacking HR? I'll also work on my rotation and try your spec Khassandra

Rawrr · 01/21/09, 6:35 PM

Originally Posted by Rawrr

I'm getting really low expertise EP values. I used -1 and -4 as the expertise ep range. What's wrong?

expertise rating value:0.65 DPS: 0.29 total DPS:2861.43 difference:1.13

simulation_time 10000
simulation_time_combatlog 30
combat_length 6
report_count 80
threads 2
min_lag 0
max_lag 0

ep_base_stat ap
ep_ap 64
ep_crit_rating 46
ep_hit_rating 30
ep_expertise -1
ep_haste_rating 33
ep_armor_penetration_rating 15
ep_spellpower 28
ep_dps 10.0

mh_speed 2.5
oh_speed 1.3
mh_dps 143.5
oh_dps 130
mh_crit 16.07
oh_crit 16.07
mh_hit 7.65
oh_hit 7.65
mh_expertise_rating 164
oh_expertise_rating 164
ap 2365
haste 5.03
armor_penetration 5.46
str 123
agi 606
int 229
spellpower 709
spell_crit 9.45
spell_hit 9.57
base_mana 4396

mh_imbue windfury
oh_imbue flametongue

mh_enchant -
oh_enchant -

trinket1 -
trinket2 shard_of_contempt

totem stonebreakers_totem

set_bonus -

metagem -

glyph_major1 windfury_weapon
glyph_major2 stormstrike
glyph_major3 -

glyph_minor1 -
glyph_minor2 -
glyph_minor3 -

mh_auto_attack 1
oh_auto_attack 1
wait_ss_with_wf_cd 0.00
cast_ll_only_if_wf_on_cd 0
bloodlust_casters 2
sync_bloodlust_with_trinkets 0
cast_lvb_only_if_ed_left 15
cast_lvb_only_if_fsdots_left 4
cast_lvb_only_if_fs_active 1
wait_mw_if_lvb_cd_left 0
cast_fs_only_if_dots_left 0
cast_ls_only_if_charges_left 0

rotation_priority_count 6
rotation_priority1 FS
rotation_priority2 MW5_LB
rotation_priority3 SS
rotation_priority4 ES
rotation_priority5 LL
rotation_priority6 LS

miss 9.00
dodge 6.50
glancing 25.00
armor 10850
spell_miss 17.00
nature_resistance 0
fire_resistance 0
frost_resistance 0

ancestral_knowledge 3/5
improved_shields 0/3
mental_dexterity 3/3
shamanistic_focus 1/1
flurry 5/5
elemental_weapons 3/3
unleashed_rage 5/5
weapon_mastery 3/3
dual_wield_specialization 3/3
mental_quickness 3/3
improved_stormstrike 2/2
static_shock 3/3
maelstrom_weapon 5/5
convection 0/5
concussion 5/5
call_of_flame 2/3
elemental_devastation 3/3
reverberation 0/5
elemental_focus 1/1
elemental_fury 5/5
call_of_thunder 0/1
elemental_precision 0/3
lightning_mastery 0/5
elemental_oath 0/2
lightning_overload 0/5
lava_flows 0/3
storm_earth_and_fire 0/5

armor_debuff_major 3925/3925
armor_debuff_minor 1260/1260
physical_vulnerability_debuff 2.0/2.0
melee_haste_buff 20.0/20.0
melee_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
attack_power_buff_flat 688/688
attack_power_buff_multiplier 99.7/99.7
spell_haste_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_buff 5.0/5.0
spell_crit_chance_debuff 10.0/10.0
spell_damage_debuff 13.0/13.0
spellpower_buff 280/280
spell_hit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
haste_buff 3.0/3.0
percentage_damage_increase 3.0/3.0
crit_chance_debuff 3.0/3.0
stat_multiplier 10.0/10.0
stat_add_buff 52/52
agi_and_strength_buff 178/178
intellect_buff 60/60

flask_elixir -
guardian_elixir -
potion -
food -
misc_item -

Anyone have an answer for this? I also sometimes get a negative expertise EP value.

Kithicor · 01/21/09, 7:13 PM

Originally Posted by Kargesh

/script UIErrorsFrame:UnregisterEvent("UI_ERROR_MESSAGE");
/cast !Auto Shot
/cast Kill Shot
/cast Kill Command
/castrandom Explosive Shot, Explosive Shot, Explosive Shot, Multi-Shot, Steady Shot, Aimed Shot

For some reason or another, this isn't casting steady shot ever.

johnnythorpe · 01/21/09, 8:54 PM

okay i want to spec 51/20/0 (or 53/18 for that matter) for scorch to buff the other mage in the group who is 57/3/11, can someone give me an example of the best layout for this spec, ive been trying out a few things, but would like a more professional oppion, thanks

Grandin · 01/21/09, 10:25 PM

Hi, I´m looking for a macro with only explosive shot in it.

The point of the macro would be to not be able to use explosive shot more then once ever 2 seconds.
because when i get LNL i would want to be able to spam the macro and still get the full durability of every explosive shot on the target.

ive tryed to do a castsequence with a resettimer of 2 with only a explosive shot in it but it doesnt seem to work with just a single spell in it.

or is this a waste of time? should i simply just put a steady shot in between the explosive shots?

ive searched the threads and doesnt seem to find an answer to this question.

however thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english.

Twitdawg · 01/21/09, 11:22 PM

a few questions. im sorry , this information is prob somewhere but its very spread apart.
First of all, what is the highest dps spec for rogues right now, I am mut with Webed death and knife and incision and a combat rogue with less gear but Calamitiys grasp and Anarchy is pulling 400 easy more than me on a dummy

Second, with mut spec, MH fast OH slow Mh instant OH deadly? or is there a better choice

Third, Hit caps, i know it used to be good to cap poisons. with mut spec now , is it worth it to cap poisons? or should i just go for about 99 hit or so with precision, and gem up exp /crit/attack

Fourth, EXP caps, i know it is capeed at 26, keeping in mind question 3, what exp should i aim for before i start to stack crit /haste/AP

Fifth, Why does jimmy crack corn?

Sixth, what is the max rotation, currently i use Garot, SnD Mut Env mut mut rup mut mut env mut mut rup and so on

My character is Celinara in Guild Cataclysm on Realm Galakrond if anyone can check out my gear and give me pointers.

Thank you very much for your time.

Viper007Bond · 01/21/09, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by Bakka

It's a fully functioning version. Open office is Open source and they cant charge for it. Novell has a distribution and Sun has one.

Gotcha. Thanks.

darkhunter139 · 01/22/09, 12:10 AM

Alright I was checking out this rogue weapon sheet and was wondering why the Librarian's Paper Cutter is ranked so high up there for main hand? I currently have that equiped to my off hand and the titansteel shanker in my main. Should I have them the other way around? And I dont get why a blue weapon with only 130 dps and not that great of stat bonus's is ranked so high up on that list? Should I be using it until I get one of the two ranked above it? (this is for PVE btw)

sank · 01/22/09, 12:43 AM

Recently just gone Surv, Very happy with the new play style, just wounder because of all my stacked +Hit from when i was BM is really that important been Srv, I'm currently on 275 +hit and packed with a couple of hit gems would it be worth going atleast 1/3 - 2/3 Focused aim dropping out of Imp stings and replaceing my Hit gems with more +Agility

and another question about socket Bonus, while trying to always(mostly) complete the set bonus, fillin up the blue sockets i am usualy putting 16ap + 12stam, any other pref Gems i could be stacking up on instead?

SDKyRoN · 01/22/09, 2:13 AM

Allright, i've been BM for ages now but it's time to switch to SV.

Here's what i was planning to do as macro, this is pretty straight forward.

#showtooltip Aimed Shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/cast !Auto Shot
/castrandom Aimed Shot, null
/cast Steady Shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1

And then simply handweaving serpent sting and explosive shot.

My question is (as i haven't had time to try yet), is the macro above 'viable' am i not going to 'clip' Steady Shot with having Aimed shot as a castrandom there ?

ps: yes i still have an !Auto Shot line, i like to have it being shot as first shot.

Suspiria · 01/22/09, 3:11 AM

Originally Posted by SDKyRoN

Allright, i've been BM for ages now but it's time to switch to SV.

Here's what i was planning to do as macro, this is pretty straight forward.

#showtooltip Aimed Shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/cast !Auto Shot
/castrandom Aimed Shot, null
/cast Steady Shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1

And then simply handweaving serpent sting and explosive shot.

My question is (as i haven't had time to try yet), is the macro above 'viable' am i not going to 'clip' Steady Shot with having Aimed shot as a castrandom there ?

ps: yes i still have an !Auto Shot line, i like to have it being shot as first shot.

Your macro do not clip out the steady, but sometime fires out SS first even if Aimed and ES arent in cd. Maybe for Haste (I've tryed without any type of haste's proc btw), but from test I've done, seems better use a macro like this:

#showtooltip Auto Shot
/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/castsequence Steady Shot,
/cast Explosive Shot
/cast [target=pettarget] Kill Command
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

When L&L proc, fire ES > SS > ES > SS. Weaving Aimed and SrS "manual" give a good rotation time, only issue due haste proc during L&L proc, like that ES > SS > SS > ES > SS, but always between the proc, nothing ES missed.
I'm still searching for some tips for a good Aimed AND ES shot macro (Naxx is Mini Pony's Valley, Ulduar, I hope, not).

SDKyRoN · 01/22/09, 3:29 AM

Well it does indeed seems to work like a charm, i do have some character animation clipping though, not sure yet.

dannyfanwin · 01/22/09, 4:10 AM

Wowarmory Character Link

I used to have [Sphere of Red Dragon's Blood] equipped in my 2nd trinket slot but replaced it with the [Bandit's Insignia] that I won to get more AP. However my hit has lowered down to 211.

I was considering putting in some [Rigid Autumn's Glow] into my bracers and yellow gem slot in my T7.5 legs which would give me a total of 243 hit and 3424AP (loss of 42AP and 0.13% Crit). I've read that you shouldn't gem for hit, but I'm not sure if the current amount of hit I have is too low or not to go by those standards.

Basically, would it be a better for my overall DPS to regem and gain some more hit at the slight loss of AP or should I stick to my current setup?

Thank you in advance.

panos · 01/22/09, 4:29 AM

How much would be the weight of hitrating after you reach the melee hitcap?

Magrias · 01/22/09, 5:15 AM

What is the rotation for MS warrior in wrath? I played it in BC and I remember it being something like: instant, autoswing, slam, instant, autoswing, slam. How much has it changed?

armiq · 01/22/09, 5:17 AM

Originally Posted by Faelix

So I've been following this thread for a day or two taking in all the info I could...

I know this is not a criticism thread, but I would like a little bit if you wouldnt mind.

I just did a test on a boss training dummy and got the following...

Everything is self buffed (horn...), I used a gargoyle to full duration and a ghoul, I decided roughly 500000 damage was a good time to stop, Necrosis did a total of 243 damage on it though, dunno why it tweaks out on dummies like that.

The World of Warcraft Armory

Heres my armory, Check my spec in there... I hope this helps your guys numbers, and feedback is appreciated =).

EDIT: Forgot my rotation:

PS > IT > HB > BS > BS> FS dump
HB > Obli > FS > HB > FS

sorry but imfo total fail gems, fail rotation, fail build

Ickis · 01/22/09, 5:53 AM

my only real knock is....I can't find something replace howling blast on my hot bar lol.