Hello tharr.

Being one of the first people to play the Wrath Alpha, I've seen most of the content and I feel ok with not having to experience every single little fun quest around Northrend. This can be done later with alts. What I want from my Wrath experience right now is getting my warrior to 80 asap and starting to loot whore together a good enough set to start pushing Naxx 25 and heroics.

Leveling in Wrath by questing is huge amounts of fun if haven't experienced the content already, so I strongly advice people not in the beta to level by questing.

Though, as in TBC and before, there are some gay reputations that one need at 80 and here my idea of doing the same thing we did in TBC comes i,: I'm getting 5 nolifers together and running some instance 400 times until we are 80.

As we all know, it's most often a lot better to grind rep until ~reverd and do the last shit by questing since the rep most often isn't lowered for Quests but it is for mob killing gains.

I wanted to create this thread to bounce ideas about what instances to choose and what factions tabards to wear.

Some factions like "The Sons of Hodir" enable you to buy shoulders enchants like http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44136, just like Scryer/Aldor. Though this particular faction don't have a tabard, which sucks. This can be done later though, since we might as well use the scryer/aldor enchants for now.

Blue gear wont stay around for more then a few days after you hit 80, so I personally wont thinkanything about the blue gear when choosing tabard. There are some nice epics however, that should be taken a look upon.

There are only 4 tabards that give rep currently in beta, and they are all level 75 req.

Each of these 4 factions has a JC gem plan at exalted and a head enchant with some stamina and some resistance school on it.

The 4 different factions you can wear tabards from are these:
(according to wowheads factionlist)

edit: the wotlk itemlinks doesnt work, gotta make them normal links :<

The Wyrmrest Accord

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=43156
Exalted:
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44202
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44205
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44204
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44203
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=43955
Some ok items, though better can be find elsewhere it looks like. Cool drake though, if you care about shit like that.

Reverd:
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44152
Permanently adds 30 spell power and 8 mana per 5 seconds to a head slot item.

head enchant and some ok blue gear, but the blues doesnt matter since they will be replaced so quick.

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Knights of the Ebon Blade

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=43155
Death Knight-faction. Though others can grind it as well. There is a Shadow Vault quest line opens up the phased zone where Ebon Blade has control of the Shadow Vault and u can access the vendors and the Quartermaster is unlocked there. At friendly u can start farming with tabard.
Exalted:
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44302
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44303
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44306
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44305
ok stuff

Reverd:
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44149
50 AP 20 crit.
the melee head enchant. this faction might be a good choice for meleers, but might be gay to reach friendly, havnt tried this YET.
Also a lot of random Blue stuff ofc.

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Kirin Tor

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=43157
Exalted:
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44180
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44181
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44183
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44182
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=42188
Nice stuff again. nothing sick. except for tailors.

Reverd:
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44159
30 spellpower 20 crit.
Caster head enchant. good choice for casters., this faction iz. also random blues ofc.


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Argent Crusade

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=43154
Exalted:
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44297
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44296
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44295
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44283
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=42187
Nice stuff again. nothing sick. except for tailors.

Reverd:
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=44150
35 def, 20 stam.
Tanking enchant. + random blues again.


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Ok, so check items and take your pick abotu the tabards. but what about instances, which ones should we rape for rep?

Since all we care about here is exp / hour, annoying attunement quest lines will suck and instances like the nexus etc can be disregarded - utgarde keep is just so more easily accessed and takes less time n effort.

I plan on filling this thread with more info here, but right now it looks like we'll be heading straight to Utgarde Keep http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?zone=206 and stay in there until we are 75, get tabard, go back to Utgarde until 77, and then go somewhere else. Where remains to been and I would love input about which ones would be best xp/hour.


Then there is the need for a good group setup.

I'm gonna be running with a paladin friend who can either go retrilol or healing depending what we need. Since retri is of the charts atm in wrath and prot is awesome for tanking trash with all the stuns, I see us going with

Protwarr tanking
Retridps
Shaman resto
+ X
+ Y

Got suggestions for X n Y? Death knight would be awesome, yes, but that wont happen this early.

We need classes to faceroll trashmobs without CCing or stuff like that.

I know what classes wont bring though: lock mage priest anothershaman rogue.

So, has anyone thought about this?
Which instances do you find best for bursting through?
Does anyone think they'll XP quicker with doing quests with the rest of the server? (PVP server in mind here).

Thank you for the read and i hope i wont end up on shitheap!!

yeah maybe you're right, but well i searched and didnt find anything about farming instances to 80 at all.

And that rep you talk about, most of it isnt very meaningful, is it? Which ones will you actually be using in Wrath and how long did it take to fix those perticual ones?

The quests will still be there to do for rep, but getting a head start and being 80 among the first is a big advantage.

1) Unless experience has been adjusted from when I was 70, instance runs are not substantially faster than grinding mobs outside of instances. Ergo, instance runs should be close to questing speed. Even as a Protection Paladin, I was getting experience faster from well-planned questing than I was from instance runs. (Better groups will obviously help, but I'm not convinced that it's enough, especially for those willing to spec DPS.)
2) You don't gain reputation in instances until level 80 ones, which you won't do until level 78 or so. Reputation from kills also isn't diminished from Revered-Exalted, meaning there's no reason to stockpile quests.
3) The dungeon reputations are honestly trivial if you're running heroics on a regular basis.

The biggest advantages to powerleveling inside instances will be that you have no competition with other groups for mobs, and it cuts down a bit on server instability/lag. Depending on the population of your server, and how far ahead of the curve you are, that may be enough to make instance leveling worth it. In all honesty, though, most people will probably be better off just questing and doing instances incidentally.

Your plan won't work because as Jebraltar says you don't get rep before the top level instances. I think the first one is Zul'Drak which is just below the level cap ala Setthek Halls but don't quote me on that.

Heres how it goes:
Get to level 80.
Wear tabard of the reputation with the helm enchant you want.
Level up rest of reps as desired/required.

Doesn't really need more discussion than that.

If you wanna see rep items in game at the moment, check this Wowhead link sorted by "Added in WotlK", "Requires reputation...any".
Items - World of Warcraft

Basically, you want to use the tabards to get your class/spec-appropriate Arcanum as quickly as possible (AC for tanks, EB for melee, Kirin Tor for DPS casters, Wyrmrest for healers). If you're going for exalted everybody, your next best bet is to rep up Wyrmrest and Kirin Tor in whichever order you like. Note that if you're planning on buying the big, expensive mammoth, you get a discount based on your Kirin Tor reputation, and that Wyrmrest offers a Red Drake flying mount. Also note that the Kirin Tor quests are basically non-existant, particularly if you don't level in Borean Tundra, while Wyrmrest quests drop you off somewhere around Honored.

I don't think that you get rep in Gun'drak when using a tabard, it's considered a level 78 instance.