I'm the MT for my guild, and I'm almost always in the top 10 for damage done in BWL. I could probably get in the top 5 if I did some dps in the suppression room and stage one of Nef. Is this normal, or is something wrong with our dps classes?

I can understand why warlocks have to hold back in BWL, but I'd think that all of our hunters and rogues, who can shed aggro, should be able to do a lot more damage than I do.

The strange thing is that our dps is pretty good. We can get Rags below 20% before sons, and we usually get Vael below 20% before our first tank (me) dies. We're doing pretty well in BWL (we'll probably kill Nef in the next week or two), but it'd make my life much easier if we could kill bosses faster. The only fight where I tell our dps classes to be a little careful is Ebonroc, because I have to burn tons of rage keeping MS up.

Why are you the one keeping MS up? Have another tank do it. As an aside...you don't have SS do you?? :p

Ebonroc is an all-out DPS fight. So that should tell you something right there. Further - it is wierd you're top 10. You should expect to be below 15 if your guild is rocking and your (the MT) primary duty is holding aggro.

Tell your DPS to stop being AFK?

But in seriousness, make sure whatever damage metering mod you're using is properly installed, synchronized, and reset. Also, if your DPS is holding back because they're afraid of pulling aggro, I'd recommend getting KLH Threat Meter so they can get a visual representation of how much room they have for threat (and push their DPS accordingly).

I wanted to laugh at this but I'm at work and the last time I did my boss gave me a funny look.

You're telling me that you somehow out DPS mages and rogues during the entire Nef fight, all from the "DPS" that you do in Phase 1 of Nef? You're joking right?
Yes, something is wrong here.

The only fight I'd find it somewhat unsurprising is Firemaw, because you're going to be in there 100% of the time and DPS without solid DPS FR gear is going to be moving out fairly often.

Other than that? Something is very, very wrong.

I'm sorry but there is no way that the damage he could do on welps, overseers, and dragonkin in the suppression room, along with the 10-15 spawns in Nef phase 1, could possibly be higher than a mage/rogue for the "ENTIRE RAID." Its. Just. Not. Possible. Not as the MT, unless he's somehow tanking every encounter in zerker stance in full DPS gear, I suppose.

I'm usually top or near it on Firemaw, Chromaggus for obvious reasons and often pretty high on Nef. Abundance of rage and heals and cleave spam and no end of mobs hitting me in P1 can't hurt :) "Lucky" Warrior calls below 20% or and infinate rage help, I sometimes swap to battle stance and execute past the zerg too, helps keep the healers awake after 9 months of farm I guess :)

But to answer the real question, no. Your DPS are complete shit if you are beating them over the entire duration of BWL. You need to kick some caffeine down them and tell them to step away from their gamepads.

Two other things you might want to take note: If you're controlling razorgore (some MTs do to get initial agro) and your meter syncs Pet and player damage as one, it'll count all the damage you deal with razorgore as your own.

Other than that, no idea (that hasn't already been mentioned).

Again, you need to read more carefully. I already AM out-dpssing rogues and mages WITHOUT doing any dps in the suppression room or stage 1 of Nef (where there are more than 15 spawns). I am consistently in the top 10, and it's safe to assume that there are more than 10 rogues and mages in my guild's raids.

To return to the main point, my GM seems to think it's normal that our dps is so low in BWL, but now I have evidence otherwise. I thought something was wrong, but I wasn't sure. It must be that they're holding back too much. We never do MC anymore, but I don't remember ever being in the top 20 there when I tanked the entire instance. Thanks for the helpful responses.

Your dps classes must be holding back or are AFK.

If they are holding back, offer them 10g if they can pull aggro off you once you have a solid hold on the boss; since teaches them how far them can go. Or just get everyone to install KTM threatmeters and then they know there thressholds. The newest beta of it does not require the MT to have a special macro to make it work.

Also, your damage tracker could be inaccurate. If you use the old Damage Meters or even Recap, and increase the combat log range something like "/set combat log friendly 150" it reduces the need to worry about syching.

Your damage will be noticably higher then alot of MTs as you arent specced prot either. (Unless you're prot/ms hybrid?)

Our Mt is generally below the healers on damage done in BWL. So ye, something is wrong.