Nerf to T4 Rogue set and how to balance stats

Aiva · 03/02/07, 8:12 AM

The nerf to Netherblade Headpiece and to Netherblade Shoulderpads drives me crazy.

I mean we are already low on %crit, really dont know what they have in their minds for us. Maybe they are trying to say that "crit is for pvp, and this is a pve set!" , or simply "you guys are too powerful, your crit rating needed a nerf".

Back in last year, we could talk about a balance between stats for PVE dps. Around %28-29 crit , around 1100 ap and 11-12 hit% without precision was decent. We knew what we were capable of , we knew how much crit we should have and we knew should have some +skill items to minimize damage lost to glancing blows.. They took away that one, we cant do anything about glancing blows anymore.

Stacking AP mindlessly, or gimping every other stat to take our %crit back to 25-26 isnt the solution. I am standing at 1640 AP with %22 crit and %12 hit , 17/44 combat swords. Crit will go down to %20 after patch and my hit to %11,70. So, for raiding rogues, what should we do about our %crit ?

Triton · 03/02/07, 8:44 AM

I posted this over on the Item Changes in 2.0.10 thread: The shoulders aren't really nerfed too much, are they? They lose 21 crit rating but pick up 16 agility. According to the DPS spreadsheet for my gear/build, 1 crit rating = .71 agility, and .71 * 21 = 14.91 which is less than the 16 agility they added (along with the dodge). Also, agility scales with buffs.

Either version of the T4 shoulders is clearly worse than Bladed Shoulderpads of the Merciless from the Karazhan chess event, though.

Tel · 03/02/07, 9:13 AM

Originally Posted by Triton

I posted this over on the Item Changes in 2.0.10 thread: The shoulders aren't really nerfed too much, are they? They lose 21 crit rating but pick up 16 agility. According to the DPS spreadsheet for my gear/build, 1 crit rating = .71 agility, and .71 * 21 = 14.91 which is less than the 16 agility they added (along with the dodge). Also, agility scales with buffs.

Either version of the T4 shoulders is clearly worse than Bladed Shoulderpads of the Merciless from the Karazhan chess event, though.

Erm, 16 agi, is a hell of alot less crit than 21 crit rating, your math is WAY off.

Its around 40agi (roughly) per crit now, and around 22 crit rating. Therefore 21 crit rating ~1% crit. 16 agi ~0.4% crit. Hardly the same.

Cold · 03/02/07, 9:27 AM

Originally Posted by Tel

Erm, 16 agi, is a hell of alot less crit than 21 crit rating, your math is WAY off.

Its around 40agi (roughly) per crit now, and around 22 crit rating. Therefore 21 crit rating ~1% crit. 16 agi ~0.4% crit. Hardly the same.

He was including the attackpower gain from agi in his calculations.

Dryw · 03/02/07, 9:35 AM

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Aiva · 03/02/07, 9:37 AM

Yes , yes.. Bladed Shoulderpads still > T4 shoulders and NOW Cowl of Defiance and T4 Helm are very similar..

Triton · 03/02/07, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Cold

He was including the attackpower gain from agi in his calculations.

Yeah, sorry for my poor wording there, I probably should have said 'is equivalent to' instead of '='

Dakous · 03/03/07, 4:01 AM

Originally Posted by Triton

Yeah, sorry for my poor wording there, I probably should have said 'is equivalent to' instead of '='

~ is actually a handy symbol for exactly this purpose, if I'm following correctly.