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Old 03/03/07, 5:56 AM   #31
Mu
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Burning Blade
When the going gets tough, the druids start playing their warrior alts again.

Seriously though, even if this nerf never happened my future as a feral druid depends solely on itemization. If I'm stuck wearing shadowmoon valley quest items while warriors graduate to tier 6 then that's just as bad as being nerfed into oblivion.

I've still got SOME faith that they'll redesign our tier sets to not entirely suck. But for now it looks like I'll be getting my warrior caught up gear and rep-wise before it's entirely too late.

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Old 03/03/07, 9:42 AM   #32
Maax
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Originally Posted by Zyla View Post
Theres some awesome comedy talent trees to come out of that site.

http://talents.unleashedgaming.net/?p=vt&i=3434

for example.

Edit: Revising my Class/Sig.
http://talents.unleashedgaming.net/?...10811&link=yes

I recreated the original trees, feel free to use this to refute those who say druid talents never sucked.

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Old 03/03/07, 10:33 AM   #33
Beorn24
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Mug'thol
I don't see why people keep thinking that cat form does sub-par DPS. I'll admit I am somewhat inexperienced and yes, my guild isn't that far (we only have Nightbane left and have yet to get 25 people online for Malgaur, but he'll go down shortly after we do) but I'm confident that I'll be able to be top DPS in a lot of the fights. You can't have blizzard redesign tier 4/5 for tanking just becaue that's what you enjoy doing the most as a druid...

Then again, it's almost like six of one, half a dozen of the other. Our tiered set is either for feral tanking or feral dps, and for proper itemization, they'll need to put in assorted epics to the other trees anyways.

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Old 03/03/07, 12:43 PM   #34
Boevis
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So I was arguing with some server people about druid tanking, of course they're of the opinion that Prot warriors should be the best choice no matter what. I was about to quote our class description where it says "Forms are as powerful as, but less versatile than their counterparts" lo and behold, Blizzard changed our class descrption, strengths, and weaknesses again. "Animal forms are not as powerful as their counterpart classes"

At least they fixed our "Possesses the most powerful buff in the game" to "Possesses a powerful buff that's beneficial to all classes"

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druid/

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Old 03/03/07, 1:40 PM   #35
Daboran
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Originally Posted by Boevis View Post
So I was arguing with some server people about druid tanking, of course they're of the opinion that Prot warriors should be the best choice no matter what. I was about to quote our class description where it says "Forms are as powerful as, but less versatile than their counterparts" lo and behold, Blizzard changed our class descrption, strengths, and weaknesses again. "Animal forms are not as powerful as their counterpart classes"

At least they fixed our "Possesses the most powerful buff in the game" to "Possesses a powerful buff that's beneficial to all classes"

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druid/
Does anyone else have a feeling that the goalposts are moving so fast that the ball will never reach them?

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Old 03/03/07, 4:25 PM   #36
Zyla
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Avatar Updated with inspiration!

Originally Posted by Apate View Post
Zyla, International Man of a Certain Standard.
Originally Posted by Bubbs View Post
That's right, I met my future wife through Zyla. :shudder:

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Old 03/03/07, 4:48 PM   #37
Monsanto
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Every time the druid class falls into a lull, I keep thinking back to that stupid class description they once had for us, where our purpose was to provide humor to the world of Azeroth. That about sums things up. And as the last 5 weeks have shown, when you allow the circus clown class to be a real class, people get uppity.

For my part, I'm leveling the 60 warrior I put away about 18 months ago. If you can't beat them, join them. Top PvE class (main tank is the top PvE class), #1 arena PvP class, and they used to be the #1 PvE dps class (and I suspect they will be again before too long). Seriously, if you can't beat them, join them.


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Old 03/03/07, 5:38 PM   #38
Melthar
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Originally Posted by Boevis View Post
So I was arguing with some server people about druid tanking, of course they're of the opinion that Prot warriors should be the best choice no matter what. I was about to quote our class description where it says "Forms are as powerful as, but less versatile than their counterparts" lo and behold, Blizzard changed our class descrption, strengths, and weaknesses again. "Animal forms are not as powerful as their counterpart classes"
I believe that "not as powerful" part was actually changed about 6 months ago. But before that it was indeed how you remembered it.

As for rerolling a warrior? I had one on my last server, and warrior tanking just doesn't appeal to me. The feel just isn't the same..

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Old 03/03/07, 6:35 PM   #39
Calen
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Here is the 2004 druid class description, courtesy of the wayback machine.

Ah yes. It all sounds so exciting..

"Forms are not as versatile as their counterpart classes, but might be considered as powerful"

Depressing that they saw fit to remove such a qualifier, but I suppose it was contentious from the beginning. One that they removed confuses me:

"Transform into cool-looking animals that impress other players and add a lot of character, flavor, and humor to the world"

Which they changed to:

"Can transform into various animal forms which provide unique abilities."

I think they could have safely left the humor part in there, with a qualifier about the humor generally not being appreciated by druids themselves.

*grin*

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Old 03/03/07, 6:39 PM   #40
Boevis
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Originally Posted by Melthar View Post
I believe that "not as powerful" part was actually changed about 6 months ago. But before that it was indeed how you remembered it.

As for rerolling a warrior? I had one on my last server, and warrior tanking just doesn't appeal to me. The feel just isn't the same..
Doublechecking my class description to make sure I'm falling into my "intended roles" isn't something I thought I'd have to do.

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Old 03/03/07, 6:40 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by Calen View Post
"Can transform into various animal forms which provide unique abilities."
Hehe, what unique abilities?

I know I'm nitpicking, but that description just seems strange to me. I think 'powerful but not as versatile forms' is a lot closer to the truth.

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Old 03/03/07, 6:56 PM   #42
Zyla
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Mal'Ganis
50% chance on shift to make other classes jealous you can change the color of your second bar.

Originally Posted by Apate View Post
Zyla, International Man of a Certain Standard.
Originally Posted by Bubbs View Post
That's right, I met my future wife through Zyla. :shudder:

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Old 03/03/07, 7:08 PM   #43
Cord
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Farstriders
Zyla is that black spot in your avatar supposed to be a bear or a night elf cat form or what?

here is some awareness. If you dont like it then dont read it. It doesnt effecct you so why care,...right? RIGHT?

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Old 03/03/07, 7:55 PM   #44
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Looks like a flipped-over bear to me.

Hehe, what unique abilities?
Maim!

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Old 03/03/07, 8:12 PM   #45
Playered
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Originally Posted by Vykromond View Post
Looks like a flipped-over bear to me.



Maim!
Looks like some kind of rock to me, dont forget Pounce, Ferocious Bite, Frenzied Regeneration, and Boomkin Aura!

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