I assume you're talking raid buffed? I was in the DPS group (as I normally am, just for giving them LoTP) so no imp, no commanding shout, and I wasn't using any kind of stam food/etc because it was Doomwalker, who we've killed plenty of times before (and which I've tanked through enrage too before, a crushing has _never_ one-shot me before yesterday).

Taunt-tanking is fine, but shieldwall and shield block are just too powerful against mobs that hit that hard with an enrage.

40k? It's not showing up in the screenshot, but Imp LoH & Inspiration? or.. ?

Before the HP->Stam change, I would frequently grab DW during his enrage, as I was the only tank with enough HP to survive his 20k shots. I don't think I ever took a crushing from him, though I did take a 20k normal hit once, and that was through capped-out AC. I also had very high avoidance averages against him. Lots of dodges, and he'd just flat out miss a hell of a lot.

Imp LoH and probably an Inspiration if they stack. I was very amused at being above 7500 armor in caster before the fight.

Honestly, it's the Crushing factor that makes warriors so superior, even against "High Physical" bosses. It doesn't matter much if you have 22k health when you are going to take back to back crushing for 10k regularly, as well as instant attacks, "parry attacks", and trash. (I seriously call bullcrap on how many of you claim to have this much HP, even if I switched out my gear for Clefthoof with Sta Gems I wouldn't have more than 21k fully buffed, and I'm a tauren)

Tublade

It's not too difficult to get over 20k HP now, assuming you have some of the higher end pieces. You will be foregoing a bit of AC before 2.1, but it's certainly doable.

Check my profile on armory, last raid in this gear I had 22.3k hps, and I was still missing abit from consumables & better enchant

Druid tanking is in a pretty good place, imo. Crushing blows are the killer and in situations without them (heroics) we actually take less damage than warriors at similar gear levels as well as outputting more threat and damage.

In 2.1 I think crushing blows will be less of an issue as well. If you have 32000 armor, versus a warrior with 16000, you're crushed for only slightly more than they're hit for (less than 1000 difference on a boss that hits for 30k on no armor, and smaller the weaker he hits). Any serious druid MT can get that kind of armor easily in 2.1. We'll still take more damage overall than warriors because its tough to match their avoidance (though it'll be interesting to see how high druids can push dodge while riding the armor cap) but the damage coming through will be less spiky and easier to heal through.

The kicker, IMO, is the lack of last stand/shield wall; seems like there are some bosses that are just designed around this ability.

We also make superior off-tanks on fights like Gruul because we're the only tank that can quickly and easily grab a strong hold of secondary aggro. Warriors cannot generate much threat if they are not getting hit consistently to generate rage. In fact I have to be careful on Gruul to not jack aggro from the MT. It really helps the raid by allowing the DPS classes to go all out. I've seen my TPS jump over 1000 on KTM as the OT in that fight, and from what I've gathered, that's something warriors can never see even as the MT.

I'll admit I read it wrong, I saw the 27k armor not the 22k armor she has currently, 22k health, and over 40% dodge and called bullshit.

I think part of my problem is how short in supply Elunes are on my server, at 50g for a solid on the AH (people don't really sell the uncut gems anymore) I run with Nightseye or the +9 sta uncommon gems in most of my new items.

Man I wish I were on your server, solid stars routinely go for 80+ on our ah.

In an effort to be somewhat constructive, why didn't they just put bear mangle back on savage fury? It might've granted a bigger threat bonus than intended, but it seems to be a more elegant solution than tweaking its damage every patch. It would also provide a small benefit for what is now a near-useless talent.

Much the same. Solid Stars are my new money making technique. I buy them for 30-40g uncut on our massively overpopulated Ally side. Move them over in stacks of 20, have them cut by a friendly JC for a gold or two each, and resell for 80g bid 90g BO. I move over about 20-40 a week and it's working nicely so far. If guildies need them I'll sell them a bit cheaper, as long as I'm still turning a profit.