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Old 06/16/07, 1:36 AM   #661
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Originally Posted by Uldreth View Post
Oh, it definitely wasn't an issue of "won't do". I just haven't had luck on those particular drops yet and those were the two that stood out through my own searches. I just wanted opinions on any glaring omissions I wasn't seeing, or commonly used cloth options.
Ah sorry, I misunderstood your post. Anyway, hope that helped.

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Old 06/16/07, 1:47 AM   #662
Cluey
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Originally Posted by Boevis View Post
I was going through my combatlog of our first VR kill and found this. Lacerates seem to match up well, as does the timing of my auto attacks. But fail to queue up Maul? Aside from the act of shifting, I've never seen anything cause a maul failure.

(note, I'm upset with my click rate, I must have been listening to Jordan at the time ...)
What kind of latency were you playing on?
I got to do Karazhan with a different group recently and had horrible lag on the etherals and Netherspite, I think it was something to do with all the debuffs present.
I was one of the tanks for Netherspite and the lag wiped us, I couldn't tell what I was doing and when I looked at the combat log afterwards I had a lot of those type of errors.
Before the pull my ping was my standard 600ms, not sure about during the fight as it was a slide show.
I think it is UI lag which stops you queuing up the next Maul, I haven't tried a macro with /stopcasting in it yet but it might be worth a shot even though it should be unneeded.

While on the topic of queuing up Maul does anyone else find you have to press the button twice to get it to light up?
I get this all the time and asked a mate if he has the same problem with Heroic Strike, he doesn't but commented that he had noticed the same thing on his druid.

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Old 06/16/07, 2:19 AM   #663
The Grog
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WTB procs in forms, at least.
F blizzard for whatever shitty code kludge they wrote to handle druid 'weaponry'

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Old 06/16/07, 3:02 AM   #664
Tasonir
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Procs in forms would be nice. But I'd settle for even just being able to use objects in forms. Not potions, objects (but go ahead and give us potions too).

I hate doing quests like the nethermine cargo one and having to shift out form just to pick up the cargo. Or being completely unable to rescue a dropped WSG flag because you have to click on it in .3 seconds and druids would have to shift out first to return it...

Any developer in their right mind would do this change, as it's not even a game balance issue...the other two would be buffs, so at least I could understand not wanting to buff us. I just don't think it should take 829 mana to pick up ore off the ground.

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Old 06/16/07, 3:09 AM   #665
Pants
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Originally Posted by dukes View Post
Why would you use a lesser healing potion if you were using a master healthstone?

Also, if you don't have any of those 3 items on you, or available to use, the macro will break (it will get to a point where it can't do any more things in the macro and just stop doing anything).
Hi. I'm the originator of the bear-potting macro. The original thread was here:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...sid=1&pageNo=1
(I actually wanted to post it to this forum first, but I'd lost my account information)

Anyway, the lesser healing potion and the healthstone do not share a cooldown, so you can activate both of them in a single keypress. You could optionally replace the healthstone with a tuber, lily root, crystal focus, nightmare seed or other such silliness--the more health the better, right?

The macro will not break if you don't have any of the items on you; I even use it in arenas to healthstone without potting. If you have neither on you, it will just pop you in and out of bear once. Some people prefer a variation where you use a particular slot of your inventory for the two restore items, so you don't have to change your macro.


Zeln:
Can you tell me what problem you're having? The /castsequence line is a hack I'm using to allow the spamming of the macro without disasterously popping out of bear at the end. I've added a FAQ to my original wow forums post to deal with some technical issues--the most common is an addon like EZdismount that will automatically cancel your forms to do actions.

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Old 06/16/07, 3:25 AM   #666
Feorthas
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Originally Posted by Tasonir View Post
Procs in forms would be nice. But I'd settle for even just being able to use objects in forms. Not potions, objects (but go ahead and give us potions too).

I hate doing quests like the nethermine cargo one and having to shift out form just to pick up the cargo. Or being completely unable to rescue a dropped WSG flag because you have to click on it in .3 seconds and druids would have to shift out first to return it...

Any developer in their right mind would do this change, as it's not even a game balance issue...the other two would be buffs, so at least I could understand not wanting to buff us. I just don't think it should take 829 mana to pick up ore off the ground.
Such is the nature of balance in PvP -- I'm quite willing to live with never being quite able to click that flag to return it personally; it may be frustrating at times but I'd rather not lose the additional benefit that being able to swap forms on the fly gives me.

Win some, lose some...

I am not your personal Frost Deathknight knowledge base. If you have a simple question, ask in the simple questions thread; if you have a more esoteric, specific, or complicated question, ask in the spec-appropriate thread.

My PM, WoWmail, and, especially, chat boxes are NOT the appropriate places for these questions.

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Old 06/16/07, 6:09 AM   #667
dukes
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Originally Posted by Pants View Post
The macro will not break if you don't have any of the items on you; I even use it in arenas to healthstone without potting. If you have neither on you, it will just pop you in and out of bear once. Some people prefer a variation where you use a particular slot of your inventory for the two restore items, so you don't have to change your macro.
That's really strange - as far as I understand it, when the macro system was changed to not allow scripts any more, if it came up against a wall of something it couldn't do, it just "broke" the macro at that point to stop brute-force macros. Maybe that only counts for /cast (spells) rather than /use (items). Thanks for the macro anyway!

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Old 06/16/07, 9:35 AM   #668
Zeln
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Originally Posted by Pants View Post
Zeln:
Can you tell me what problem you're having? The /castsequence line is a hack I'm using to allow the spamming of the macro without disasterously popping out of bear at the end. I've added a FAQ to my original wow forums post to deal with some technical issues--the most common is an addon like EZdismount that will automatically cancel your forms to do actions.
I went back and noticed the faq, and have tried several of the suggestions. I removed everything but the original castsequence line, and tried using Claw instead of lifebloom, but still no luck.

I've attached a list of my addons, nothing too out of the ordinary. I am not running a mod that autoshifts me if I am in a feral form. I recently transfered servers, and my bongos was a little weird, and right now I think there is no hotkey for stance changing. I am going to change this.

I didn't send this in a pm because I think this might be useful info for all to see. Let me go log in and see if disabling bongos and resetting my hotkeys helps.

edit:Logged in with all mods disabled. Made macro with just the /castsequence line. Used both claw and lifebloom, did not work
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Old 06/16/07, 9:49 AM   #669
Zeln
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Ok, I recopied the macro, took out the extra bits, and now get a Lua error (attached).

It is working to do the swap. I can only click the error off if I am in Bear form.

So apparently I was just bad at typing it myself, and I just went in and disabled lua errors for now, that has to be my issue somewhere.
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Old 06/16/07, 9:53 AM   #670
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Wondering if the fact the S is capitalised in castSequence would make it break - I've heard of stupider things and macros are quite caps-dependant in my experience.

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Old 06/16/07, 10:05 AM   #671
Zeln
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No, its completely unrelated to the macro, I've started getting them when I change from bear form to caster now. I must have borked something up when I disabled/enabled all my mods.

Ah: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...56817466&sid=1

Originally Posted by Slouken
Okay, this is fixed for 2.1.2. In the meantime, if you add a semicolon to the end of the macro, that will fix the problem.

Thanks for the great test cases!

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Old 06/20/07, 7:16 PM   #672
dukes
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Had some fun today, someone misclicked LoH on trash. (If you're wondering why I have no buff timers its just a bug I seem to have - they refresh every time i gain/lose a buff and the timers disappear for a split second).



Loving the bugged arena system right now, seem to have gotten a netherdrake and gladiator title from my amazing 3v3 rating of 1750.

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Old 06/20/07, 7:45 PM   #673
Malazaar
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Originally Posted by Tasonir View Post
Procs in forms would be nice. But I'd settle for even just being able to use objects in forms. Not potions, objects (but go ahead and give us potions too).

I hate doing quests like the nethermine cargo one and having to shift out form just to pick up the cargo. Or being completely unable to rescue a dropped WSG flag because you have to click on it in .3 seconds and druids would have to shift out first to return it...

Any developer in their right mind would do this change, as it's not even a game balance issue...the other two would be buffs, so at least I could understand not wanting to buff us. I just don't think it should take 829 mana to pick up ore off the ground.
Last i looked, i could pick up flags while in cat/bear (even if stunned).

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Old 06/26/07, 7:03 AM   #674
dukes
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I'm really starting to have some itemisation concerns about feral gear.

On our guild forums most people keep a "wishlist" of gear they would like to obtain in the future. It's pretty depressing to see some classes with a list of gear where they can obtain two or more upgrades in most slots from their t4/5 gear currently, when my wishlist contains maybe three items total, one of which is the crafted belt (still not dropped for us, 3 clears of SSC/TK since patch with one other guild having it on the server who aren't selling yet), on top of the tier sets.

It's annoying when you look at say, DPS warrior shoulders, and find that theres shoulders off Rage Winterchill, plans for haste shoulders from BT, shoulders from both Kazzak and Hydross, and then t4, 5 and 6 sets. Then look at say, druid bracers, and find that theres not a single set of bracers from any raid boss/instance in TBC with more than 1 strength on them. There's 3 sets of rogue bracers (Teron Gorefiend, Rage Winterchill and the haste crafted set off trash) of which only one is really "suitable" for druids, and even then isn't really that perfectly itemised.

It pains me to need to PvP to get the bracers and gladiators maul because there isn't another item that comes close from PvE for those slots - I wouldn't mind if they were best by a small amount, but when there's no alternative I really wonder if Blizzard just forgot about non-set itemisation for ferals post-t5 (the only non-set items I can find are the treads of the den mother, and the pillar of ferocity, from 14 bosses in Hyjal and TK, and one of those drops is from trash). I also wonder why there are a number of two handed DPS weapons from Hyjal/BT (serving two handed DPS warriors, ret paladins and possibly hunters as a secondary weapon), and only one or two caster weapons (serving all warlocks/mages, spriests, eleshamans and boomkins). Seems a bit stupid itemisation-wise to me.

/rant.

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Old 06/26/07, 8:05 AM   #675
Daboran
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Well, theres a whole thread in the PvE/PvP itemization dilemma so I won't go too far into it here, but I joined an arena team this week.

I object to Blizzard's false PvP on principle, coming from a free-for-all PvP environment in my last MMORPG - the world PvP during the first 6 months of WoW was much more my cup of tea than all these staged systems.

This said I have to be pragmatic, if my best raid upgrades come from arena/honor farming then I have to do it.

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