Emily

How do you rate the Living Ruby Serpent? The Use is a bit awful, 20 secs of +150dmg/healing every 5 mins, but it packs 33 Stamina and 23 Int.

 

Angerz

I use it in PVP, I think its stam and int are better than the 70 healing I would be getting from my prayer book. Its timer is restrictive, so I tend to use it to refresh my earth shield to be honest.

I also keep it on in 5 mans for the same reasons, I never have trouble healing, but in non heroic stuff where our tank isnt playing to his best as it were, on big pulls I end up tanking at least one mob. The mana and HP always seem nice.

So all and all, I like it.

Putting together a talasite owl to use in place of it when mana is going to be an issue.

 

◊ Shalas

KTM claims Fade puts me at negative threat when I use it on the pull, and the end result seems to be accurate -- even if you can't have negative threat, you'll definatly still be at 0 instead of 1000 after casting a few heals.

 

Litany

I believe this is because of the somewhat unique mechanics of Fade. During it's duration, your threat value has a permanent modifier of -X. You fade on the pull, you're still at 0 threat. You heal once, you would have been at 500 threat, but then you get your, say, -1000 threat mod applied from fade, and you're back at zero. A 'permanent threat reduction' trinket would do nothing if used on the pull.

This is how I understand it, anyhow.

 

Nausicca

Im using Lower City Prayer Book and Essence of the Martyr as a Shaman, and finding it a nice combo.
Because im usually potting up with Flask of Restoration and Mageblood during raids, ive never found mana to be a constraining factor in any of the fights ive seen so far, so im not really looking for pure mp5 trinkets. I find the EotM extremely good when popped in conjunction with Bloodfury (Orc racial), and then casting Earthshield on the MT, while dropping a Healing Stream Totem, it makes for some impressive numbers. I also like the +healing boost when your using 3 healers in Kara on a boss that really likes 4, you can keep up with periods of heavy damage you otherwise would struggle with.

Have love, will travel.

 

Calliea

Even if the bangle of endless blessings has a minute long cooldown, I gain 42 mana/5 while casting (self-buffed) when it procs. That's 126 mana per proc, or 10.5 mana/5 if it procs once a minute.

The clicky spirit proc raises my mana/5 while casting from 149 to 163, giving me an extra 13 mana/5 while casting for 20 seconds, or 52 mana/5. Over 2 minutes (the length of the cooldown), that's 2.2 mana/5. So assuming I'm chain casting and using the clicky whenever it's up, I get 12.7 mana/5. If I time the clicky to work with the proc, I can get 4.4 mana/5 out of it (getting 14.9 mana/5 -- pretty much the same as a shard of the scale).

However, if I can sneak outside of the 5 second rule when I click the "use", it gives me 93 mana for each 5 seconds I spent outside of the rule.Used intelligently (all 20 seconds outside of the 5 second rule), the proc itself is worth 15.5 mana/5 or 372 mana. (Add that to the 10.5 mana/5 if it procs once a minute and you have a 26 mana/5 trinket.)

At worst, it's on par with shard of the scale -- 14.9 mana/5. At best, it's almost double the shard's efficiency. (Here's to hoping I did the math right.)

On top of that, you can go for Ye Olde Clicky on the Innervate to really pump your mana bar back up if your druids like you.

For me, it helps to stop thinking of a trinket slot as a "stat slot" like it was pre-TBC. In the old game, the best trinkets you could get as a healer were a shard of the scale/rejuvenating gem (straight up mana/5 and +healing). If you didn't have those, you used DM trinket or mindtap. TBC offers a lot of much cooler trinkets with interesting procs or "on use" effects.

 

Bloodtear

Yesterday while messing with my gear (in flight) I had a Bangle proc.
Continued testing it and I was able to reproduce the effect few more times only from equipping and removing various parts from my gear.

I'll test some more today to see if it only comes from other items with chance on hit/cast or an enchant (adding a hidden aura on the character) or any item.

Anyway, it's a great way to force a Bangle proc when out of mana and/or unable to cast.

edit: Strange that no one mentioned Heavenly Inspiration (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30293). Descent passive mana regeneration and great 90sec cooldown on use skill.

 

• Playered

Bangle can proc on pretty much anything.
Moving, opening a tab, flying, someone else giving loot with ML, enter/exiting a zone, clicking a soul well, changing gear, casting etc... seems to be a 'chance on event' rather than 'chance on cast'.

edit re: Warp-Scarab Brooch was mentioned :P

 

Farstrider

Just saw this. Yeah I am a macro noob basically, I'm pretty schoolboy, but thanks very much for this, I think it will work now.

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• Daboran

Although not on the regen tip (and of course, it's an "use" item), isn't Scarab Brooch http://www.thottbot.com/i21625 well worth it? With the big heal bombs of HT and more pertinently for Priests, PoH, 15% more is not an insignificant amount nowadays.

Of couse it used to be the trinket of choice for Priests on Vael, but it might be worth re-evaluation.

 

• Erongg

The negative threat thing may be unique to Fade, I'm not sure.

 

Antoine

I believe feint and cower can put rogues and druids, respectively, into negative threat.

 

• Playered

Dont think so, however this is easy to test:
Have someone go and get proximity agro (no attack or damage) on a mob, then have a (priest or rogue) use (fade or feint) and then do an attack (wand, swp, smite - auto attack, ss with a low damage wep) on the mob .

I believe the only reason why fade may work is because it's a buff setting the characters overall threat at a -1500 level for 10 seconds whereas feint/cower are a simple "im lowering my threat on you now by 1050". You could also perhaps think of fade like a "Threat Shield" - which 'absorbs' 1500 worth of threat over its duration.

However it needs testing to work out which it is, and its really off topic here :P

 

malthrin

It also procs on Spiritual Attunement converting a heal into mana. Say, Vampiric Embrace. It'd require going out of your way to have decent spirit as a Paladin, but that could situationally be a huge amount of regen.

Travian - Resto Druid
Malthrin - Priest

 

Jubling

The Bangle is also quite fun when it procs at the same time as Spirit Tap, and you then activate the Use effect:

 

kaib

And Spirit Tap procs a lot for you in PvE raiding?

 

Boevis

I take back what I said about the Bangle, it is most impressive indeed. I off-healed/tanked a heroic Underbog and got at least 1 proc every pull where I was healing, very nice indeed.

Slightly OT. I was wondering if the Spellsurge enchant would be worthwhile when combined with the scarab.

 

deuce

As a paladin I'm currently using:

Warp Scarab Brooch: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27828
Xi'ri's Gift: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29179

They are both nice trinkets since my gear is ok and I have some nice +healing gear and gems. The trinkets also give some much loved mana regen and crit rating.

I use the following macro also:

/use Xi'ri's Gift
/stopcasting
/use Warp-Scarab Brooch
/stopcasting
/cast Divine Favor
/stopcasting
/cast Divine Illumination
/stopcasting
/cast Holy Light

This casts a rank 11 holy light with both trinkets, DF and DI. Very handy when you need to land a big heal on the tank and get free / cheaper heals.

I haven't had the Scarab of the Infinite Cycle drop for me yet (after at least 20 BM runs) =(
And although I have ample badges, I don't really want to get the epic badge one either.

 

Jubling

Not really, more of a curiosity than a strategy . Though in some fights it's possible to try and get Spirit Tap off the adds, like the Broggok event or Botanist Freywin, for some nice mana regen when healing. Maybe you could do it with Illhoof's imps as a raiding example?

 

Fjord

You don't need to put the stopcasting after trinkets. On a related note is there any way to avoid the stopcasting altogether? It can cause annoying spell cancellations if you hit the macro too early. I believe a G15 keyboard could do it, is there any mod or other way of writing the macro?

 

deuce

A guildy gave me this macro, he said that without the stopcastings (even after the trinkets), it would sometimes bug and not cast. I haven't noticed this, I think it's just his bad net or UI or s'thin =P

 

Kelex

Right now i am using the Lower City Prayerbook and Shiffars Nexus Horn during fights that would get the extra umph that Shiffars gives when it procs. When Im downranking in raids I usually use 2 Lower City Prayerbooks (I am working to replace one with Bangle of Endless Blessings).

It seems to me that with my spec and stats the extra +healing from the LCPB and the mana regen from BoEB would be best for me.

 

Kelyas

Alch stone+Lower City, plan to replace with the badges trinket (+heal on click, passive + healing).


Want to hit up a bangle as I am Dreamstate/HT spec, and with my current mp5 and a shadow priest I have a rough time burning mana. The bangle should complete my goal of infinite mana with rank 8 HT, and then I can rebuild +healing up to monster status.


Scarab is something I'm very iffy on. It is powerful, but when the casts become too quick, it may end up being a downfall to an mp5 regeneration spec. Not to mention on spike fights where you count on consistant timing it may proc when you don't want it to, which is removable, but a waste of a trinket slot.

 

• Binkenstein

I'm leaning towards the Scarab over the LCPB. Mostly this is because if your spells are faster, and you're not madly healing the tank, more time outside the FSR.
If you are spamming the tank, more heals to the tank.

 

CasT

For PvP I am leaning towards

equip: MP5
Use: Healing

Since PvP is more dynamic healing I don't think that mana reducing trinkets like LCPB or Auslese's Light Channeler is offering that much more. But the amount of MP5 trinkets are rare to say the least.

Do not matter how much you play, you will never get the carrot.